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My six-peneth is that about the only thing that the OBC gets a partial tick for is the accumulation of that reserve.

Imagine RAA's position over the set of c*ck-ups in the 2000 - 2013 period (and their flow-on more recently) if there had not been funds available to address those issues.

Although on the downside, I suspect that the existence of that reserve made everybody administratively fat, happy and slack.

In my experience, having money assists in quickly addressing problems and one example is that the organisation has the reserves to allow the existing Board to address the paper- files issue and implement a new computer based system. The paper filing system was woefully inadequate but the OBC and some of the dill EO's just kept on keeping on with it for a decade or two after they should have updated, but at least the existing Board had funds to allocate to that problem.

I'm sorry but I just don't understand how any member can argue against an organisation having a reasonable & over-adequate reserve. Money is good when you have it.

......sheep and cattle breathe cleaner air, the oil industry doesn't make so much money but you finish up burying the nose in the dirt, so....

...... so that's another wanton waster of fossil fuels gone, and good riddance I say" added PhhhhhTtttttttt "Save the wales, save the mosquitoes and save the tsetse flies".

"Flat spins are one of the greatest weapons of the environmental movement" said that Greens senator sheila with the cat's eyes & the double barrel name who loves the camera.

"I agree" said Osama bin Ali bin Usef bin Everywhere Man, the leading ISIL aviation spokes person "I call on all Recreational Aviators (and WreckFlying Moderatorri) to join our flat spin jihad and ...............

RAAus staff collected names/status of each person entering the hangar, establishing member and non member numbers. Some people trickled in after it started but the ability for a bunch of nonmembers to materially affect a vote was understood in terms of numbers. In the event that there was a risk of a questionable outcome we could have asked the identified non members to temporarily vacate but that was never needed.

I'm a little surprised at this as given that RA-OZ maintains a "Members Only" section of the website, I would have assumed that RA-Oz would conducted a "Members Only" AGM.

As you know, I am no longer a member and therefore on that basis wouldn't have dreamed of attending an AGM.

But that's obviously just me.

Best regards and keep up the good work on the Board/Committee and on the Forum.

Geoff

....to exit on his back after a burst of throttle (avrefs), only to find that FFFFFFTTTTTT had added a new one liner which..........

......... questioned the need for a "burst of throttle" (repeated AvRef) when the world is in such a perilous position with global warming/cooling/equilibrium-happiness (cross out those that do not apply [PCRef]).

Then PhhhhhTtttt (Flatulence -wordplayRef) added "Flat spin recovery should be mandatory and taught using just the "Smidgeon Tickle of Throttle, Save Fuel & the Vironment at all costs" principle, where .........

"....exploding........"

........... like a recreational aviation girly-man (NTTIAWWT) in a flat spin about ..........

"next thing is......."

..... that he is soon ........

While Ratso has gone all ratty with Ahlo, there has been a massive outbreak of anti-board criticism, a clear example of the seething contempt of the non-voters, and it has become clear that this breakout is directly related to Ahlock's suspension, since while he's been on the job the only comments we saw were how Madge liked his comrades and they were all doing a good job, and the occasional member also saying they were doing a good job but adding an adjective such as "hoping".

Now the top is off the barrel and if Ahloxis doesn't get back soon there will be...................

..... a need for the Moorabbin Mauler to climb into the barrel, and we all know that when that happens, the ..........

AHLOX IS HALF WAY THROUGH HIS SUSPENSION

Ratsack is pleased to advise that Goldylox is now 1/2 way thru his weeklong suspension and I report that it has been great.

Because of his suspension, we have been able to meet up each day at the flashest coffee joint in town for Spresso and Tiramisu, plus a good old chat about life in general.

I am looking forward to his next suspension.

I would expect that an experienced Manager (who does not have to be an experienced aviator) could relatively quickly scan this Forum each day (just go to "What's New" each morning over a coffee) and gain a handle on existing and arising issues outside of any CASA or RA-OZ clique or sanitising. (A relevant issue may be the status of the Ops and Tech Manuals where the boss MAY possibly be being told that it is all in hand and hunky-dory, yet there remains a good quantity of disquiet & dissatisfaction amongst some members. Those members might be right or wrong, but the RA-Oz boss needs to be aware of it.)

He or she would also quickly be able to evaluate the worthwhile contributions and contributors.

Just as a good Manager scans the business sections of the papers, or the entire Fin Review, or the trade press, each day and while considering every press article with a grain of salt (none that have involved my companies have ever been 100% correct unless pushed out by our PR people), but can then further research those issues that are spotted which are relevant to their position.

For an RA-Oz senior manager or board member to ignore this Forum is foolhardy and wasting a valuable resource. And if any of them think they are "above it" or can't be bothered, then it may be a dangerous sign.

Regards Geoff

.....let alone the Albury-WaggaWagga dimple. NES readers will remember with fear and trepidation how the Dimple claimed our dear friend Bigglesworth, and he was unable to identify any.......

.......... roads west of Montague Island and thought that The Rock was the local equivalent of Mount Fuji.

"Now you are talking my ringo" said Acki as he drove his Roller up from Lethbridge to Toorak to ............

"Nuthin" said Andy, "but I was forced to not say anything on behalf of RosAus, just things on behalf of Andy, and I've been speaking RozAus stuff for so long that I can't find anything else to talk about so I might become a lurker like.........

....... Endo described ........ after all, the members don't give a Monkeys about the workings (or non-workings) of RAOZ, as all they want is to be kept in the dark and to fly."

Turdo noticed that Andy had drawn himself up to his full width (that is funny Andy) so Turdboy drew himself up to his full stoop and responded "..............

it was noted, though will not make it to the minutes, that the board has more tomato throwers than the crowd.. this was the path chosen for the outspoken as they now have signed a ..........

.... pact to run RAOZ in a professional and constructive manner.

"They can't do that" said one of the 25 recent ex-presidents & a couple of the previously dysfunctional employees "As that will set a nasty precedent and those that come after this mob bugger (NTTIAWWT) off, will have to also keep Recreational Aviation moving forward in the best interests of the members instead of the OBC. That's just not fair, so we're gunna join the new organisation being promoted by Kilometres and the Opposite of Windward."

"Now hold on there" said ..............

Site Announcement - Ahlox given 1 week suspension.

Ahlox gets one week in suspenders.

Due to numerous complaints from members of the Forum, Ahlox has been given one week in tight suspenders that will give him a substantial wedgie.

The reason is that he has been a bit overly Ahlocky recently and the members have partitioned Eeeeen to just get it done.

It is worthy of note that nobody has PM'd Eeen in PoxyLoxy's support.

...............something that Hatso will probably know if he's been through the Initiation Ceremony and Secrecy Rites before...........

...... he was issued with his member sponsored official "Board Hat", which is bigger than all previous hats that Andy had been filling, but was half full from the bloke that Andy replaced.

"We used to provide new hats to each new Board Member" commented President Peter Priest "But the cost was prohibitive because the buggers kept filling them involuntarily at their first Board Meeting as soon as they saw the real state of the organisation ...... and then we had to commission a QC to get legal advice (RaAvref) to be certain that we could continue the hat filling in secret (OBCRef)."

"Andy is ideal for this role (or roll)" commented Ahlox (who Ratso and some here often call a QC [Q**** C***]) "As he ....................

we need to see the pictures of the 24.7 trees planted to carbon offset your CO2 production....or in Rat's case an extra 10 to allow for his cheese cutting episodes. We need to see each tree, with lat long to 17 decimal places on the back of each photo and the writing on the tiny little plaque that you will have affixed to each seedling needs to be visible showing the serial number of the seedling, the date it was planted and we need a high court judges signature and the words "This is a real photo of a real tree" on each photo. We would like to see CO2 being pulled out of the atmosphere in the phot and leave that to you to determine how you will show it......

Sounds quite reasonable, suggested Phhh,T in fact almost too lax, I reckon they need to add.........

......... a donation of 150% of their salaries for the next 10 years to the CSIRO, the United Nations, the WWF (not the Wrestling Federation) and to the PhhhhT Fund for Sea Level Lowering (with the catch tax-free acronym PhhhhTFfSLL), which is ...............

....... Move-with-wings_Very-strong-wind-that-goes-quickly-round-in-a -circle-or-funnel met with MotzarTchaikovsky in a coffee shop to discuss ...............

..... the effects of global warming on Jabiru engines, but as they huddled in their hoodies in the back of the 2WombBaa Glorious Jean's Coffee Association they were approached by a weasel looking bloke who had a Glock 17 in one hand and a Taser in the other.

"Don't move" he said "As I am from the Stray-Yen Gumment and I have reason to believe that you might be Tear-Wrists."

"I am the mighty PhhT and he is MotleyMerve, we are not Tear-Wrists (although some certainly do find us slightly annoying), we are just well known contributors to WreckFlying".

"So you are those 2 Tear-Wrists, the well known PhhhT and MotleyMerve, who half the Forum Members and Yabba-Roo owners have asked us to arrest & dispose of in a trench beside the road to Roma." replied the bloke from the Gumment.

"Please don't shoot" said PhhhT "As the gasses from your Glock will ruin the Ozone Layer, and is that Taser recharged using solar cells, or are you buggering the atmosphere by charging from coal fired power?"

"Don't I wreck-anise you?" asked MotleyMotz.

"Yes ...... I used to run a boyz home for the Salvos, then became a CASA Inspector but with my new role as an anti Tear-Wrist Gumment bloke I have a licence to be an even bigger R-Sole and can soon go back to HQ in charge of wrecking Recreational Aviation where I can then ...............

....... Move-with-wings_Very-strong-wind-that-goes-quickly-round-in-a -circle-or-funnel met with MotzarTchaikovsky in a coffee shop to discuss ...............

"........NOT ANOTHER THRU BOLT LOXY, NO!, NO!, NO!".............................................but it was too late............

..... "Who cut the cheese?" asked a disgusted Constable Doubtfire as she withdrew from sitting on the 12 Incher's knee in the coffee shop opposite Myers.

"Well it's not Motzar-Rella that's for sure, as it is more like Danish Blue or Pont l’Eveque or Camembert de Normandy or perhaps ToeJam de TwoWombBaa, where ............

"........they all look the same to me, what's a thru bolt anyway?"

"Good question CheeseBoy" (FromageRef) said Turbo, who is an acknowledged expert in the repair of marine and aircraft engines. "It's just a bolt (or stud (AhloxRef) + washer and nut (another AhloxRef)) located at the base of the barrel, normally 4 or 6 in number, which we engine repair experts refer to colloquially as .............

........ is known affectionately as Dick-Head to his best and closest mates ...................... and to his wife ......................................................... and to his mum.

Mozar-Rella thought about this for a while, then considered the merits of 2200 engines in J170's, before comparing FT, DH and the latest design of thru-bolt, before saying ".............

....who was from Toowoomba, and well known for his......................

.......... insightful contributions to a well known & expertly moderated (AhlowRef) Aviation (AvRef) Forum (ForumRef).

"It's simple." Dick would often say "Sack 'em all & get rid of ................

.......... Dick Darstardly from ....................

Cut the RAA to the very bone, sack 1/2 the staff and replace them with online management, kill the magazine, get CASA to manage the SMS. Make the flight schools pay their way. encourage the #19 class by reducing restrictions. merge the RAA fleet into the VH fleet.simple stuff

FT for Prez and we can all put our feet up.

Its a cultural norm. None of the board is willing to stand up publicly and say "This is wrong as we need to fix it, I have a plan" No one is prepared to look beyond covering their own asse

That is wrong, that is garbage and that is not entirely rational.

You really must spend some time researching this issue and I suggest speaking to those that are doing the job. Don't talk to the remnants of the OBC. Speak with the newer guys who are goers and dedicated to doing exactly what you say they aren't.

Regards Geoff