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Notice there is nothing in that indicating that CASA will do things to promote the growth of aviation. It's role is only to regulate.

Many people have referred to this subject over the years.

CASA stands for Civil Aviation Safety Authority - its operations are limited to managing safety.

Airservices Australia in my opinion would be a more likely body to promote the growth of aviation, because more members means more money for things like Navaids and ATC training and salaries.

However, as in any recreational activity, the participants are the ones who should drive it, otherwise they lose control of it.

If you look back on the Australian Aviation industry some of its bigger blips were Sir Charles Kingsford Smith, Arthur Schutt, Bib Stillwell and so on who all took people from the community and turned them into aviators.

Also all those in Retirement Homes have been (or should have been) in lockdown for about a month, so there;s an excellent chance that this group will come through relatively unscathed.

Spoke too soon, a 91 yo has died in NSW; someone didn't know what "isolation" meant.

One thing for sure. No matter how much the pensioners whinge they are in the best position to weather this storm. They have an income and most don't have to worry about a mortgage or even rent, so the pension is all theirs. I don't hear many whingeing now and most are wondering how they can help out those less fortunate.

Also all those in Retirement Homes have been (or should have been) in lockdown for about a month, so there;s an excellent chance that this group will come through relatively unscathed.

Well don't tell anybody, but she recently said you were a spunk (can anybody else read this), and she would like......

We will always have a regulatory body as long as we have politicians and voters. As much as we may dislike it there will always be regulators and the reason is that there are always people who when they see something they don't like, they say "there should be a law against it"

Aside from that, without CASA we go back to prescriptive regulations like we had pre-1980s where the Government has the liability and decides what the rules will be (as against the members in the SAOs). So that would wipe out recreational flying as we know it today and bring it back to where it was.

I'd love to see that news article. I'd also love to see which science journal is going to print or has printed such a claim

You find out all about it of you read either Murdoch or Faifax newspapers of either yesterday or the day before. It's academic to us here right now.

With the demise of our industry we will see the collapse of the government run department. If there is one positive out of this, it could be a more simple and common sense approach to create growth and stimulus. There is no place for the red tape and high wages this department created for itself.

stand them down as the rest of the industry has been stood down. These people will only hinder the start up of the industry.

In response to this profound statement, I put in a request to CASA this week and got a response.

Once we go into lockdown, logistics increases and gets complicated exponentially and I could see a lot of airlifts to many towns, that will keep Airservices busy for a start, and that in turn will require CASA to be active for commercial flying. For Private and Receation the Chief Medical Officers are controlling whether there is any flying. Currently none, but I think it will be reviewed on April 17.

They could always leave Hamilton off the list for Western District distribution if you'd prefer.

While it's interesting to specualate, especially if you are a home financial genius who can predict outcomes without known inputs, just at this stage the death toll has started, in Victoria, DHHS are now predicting that converting the Exhibition Buildings, Jeff's Shed and the Convention Centre and St. Andrews/Peter McCallum Hospital is not going to provide enough beds for people to lie down on (these are people who can breathe on their own without ventilators). While this is happening anout 40% of the population isn't bothering to heed the urgent messages and 10 km of beach from Brighton to Port Melbourne had to be closed yesterday because people who had been given the simple message "If you can stay at home you must stay at home" continued to do what they always did.

Whether we get a recession or a depression is irrelevent right now, when we need to save every life we can by separation which is the only way to stop being infected at the moment. We're actually back to the action which stopped the plague, and which is the only know action against a pandemic without a cure.

Under those circumstances the best for us is that the government keeps on throwing money in where it's going to save lives, keep essential services going, and feed us.

An independent body has been formed to start looking at how we will manage the financial situation when the pandemic is over.

Historically the best way out of a recession or depression has been to absorb people looking for work into building projects, so when they start earning money they spend it and pay taxes and that's an exponential increase.

Will we Deport those backpackers after their holiday, considering their countries are Closed to them !. ?

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You make the decision.

I'd wear a mask if I could, but haven't found any available.

Australia has recently had a shipment of 3 million, which bizarrely was the same quantity as the US ordered, with 10 x the population, but emergency workers are getting first priority. We can't have them working in west masks and dirty gowns and getting sick so that's where we are now for good or bad.

John Dyson has gone into production of ventilators in the UK and there was a suggestion that he was keeping some for Australia, but there's no doubt we are about to be overwhelmed. I think Victoria will run out of ventilators in the coming week, and from there if you can breathe with oxygen you'll survive, but if you need life support it's bad luck.

Report in the press yesterday that Patient Zero has been found in Wuhan, in the fish market, the virus mutating from shrimps, so its all over with eating bats or the Chinese government giving the Coronavirus to sixteen dissidents to kill them and it getting away.

That was our marketing department on the front row Cappy and you'd just grabbed Roxette[second from left]'s..........

Thanks guys. Now here is another question... My wife is a registered volunteer at the Edenhope hospital. She has been asked if she will do some volunteer work, like transporting patients.

I said to ask about the details of what protections she will be offered.

What protections should we insist on before she agrees to help?

My personal inclination is to approve the work, but surely they should have precautions in mind to protect their volunteers?

Try these:

Thanks guys. Now here is another question... My wife is a registered volunteer at the Edenhope hospital. She has been asked if she will do some volunteer work, like transporting patients.

I said to ask about the details of what protections she will be offered.

What protections should we insist on before she agrees to help?

My personal inclination is to approve the work, but surely they should have precautions in mind to protect their volunteers?

I've been working flat out allday today trying to get four Councils to post links on their websites so people can get information. In amongst that I found a link for medical staff, I think on the Victorian SitE but my brain is abouy fried. I'll have a look in a minute and if I can find it I think it will be exacty what you need.

Is it OK to suspend the sitting of the Parliament and the CABINET runs the Country?. That is NOT the government. It's ONE part of it.. Many electorates are currently not represented at all in the lower house with this current situation.. That cannot be an acceptable situation. Nev

It's a bit late in the day to pull that one since the National Cabinet was established weeks ago.

The Commonwealth Parliament is still operating normally

The State Governments are still operating normally

The Territory Governments are still operating normally

I've mentioned before that when the Federal Parliament is sitting, 4,000 people are employed on site. Even when it's not sitting there are 2,000 people there, so the parliamentary process is continuing to process the usual load of bills, and the same thing is happening .

The two Territory Governments which are subservient to the Commonwealth Government are doing the same.

The Six Sovereigh States which govern all internal State affairs are doing the same.

The Coalition Cabinet in the Commonwealth Parliament is still meeting and still discussing Australia's day to day external affairs.

Normally, because the States are self-governing, their decisions and approaches to any subject can be quite different, and they are under no legal obligation to listen to what the Commonwealth wants and vice versa.

During the recent fire crisis we saw the States, who own their own fire services fighting the fires and the Commonwealth sitting back unable to enter their jurisdictions until reequested. That's how we operate.

For this crisis we had to have a common approach, legislation had to be drawn up fast and matching, as the crisis unfolded, so a stand alone National Cabinet was formed consisting of the Prime Minister representing the Commonwealth, the State Premiers, and the Territory Chief Mininsters.

They in turn are taking their advice from the AHPPC (Australian Health Protection Principal Committee

And I think, if we go a State of Disaster, The Chief Medical Officers gets even more powers.

Do miss quote it to be misleading? Or you just don't understand the meaning??

"trade, commerce, and intercourse among the States, whether by means of internal carriage or ocean navigation, shall be absolutely free."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_92_of_the_Constitution_of_Australia

Simples.

They're not reintroducing tolls.

Section 92 of the Australian constitution makes the whole state boarder closed thing illegal. No if's or but's There is no higher law than the constitution if there is a conflict between laws the constitution trumps it. Declaring a state of emergency makes zero difference.

I've lived with Section 92 all my life, so I'm very familiar with it; in a nutshell it guarantees free trade and intercourse between States, and I can see where using the word "closed" is technically incorrect. What is happening is when you want to cross a border Police will be assessing you and taking appropriate action, which may be to let you continue if you are driving a truck (transport is an essential service), or vehicle on the way to a job, or even in your car/caravan, subject to you spending two weeks in isolation. As of today's announcement, in Victoria that would be at the nearest motel, or wherever they take you, then you would go through, and do the same at the next border.

So Section 92 would not be breached; trade and intercourse (which had a different meaning when S92 was established) will still be taking place.

I think the State of Emergency frees up money. The lever which hasn't been pulled is State of Disaster.

I wouldn't worry too much about the #125 or SoD unless we go to full lockdown, when in fact no one will be crosing a border except a few emergency workers.

Those were the days. Turbo's smurf outfits were so stunning that BP created miniatures; Turbo was posing for photos for years, and the sales in the servos pushed BP's earnings into the stratosphere. You could tell your Secretary to take all calls, lunch was three hours, but it all came to an end when Turbo presented the models for his "Smurf Unplugged" series which featured combinations of Mr and Mrs Smurf, which Turbo thought would appeal to parents and children alike, but......

I tried in vain for information about flying. Getting a big fine would ruin your day .

So I tried looking up golf, and they say that while clubhouses must be closed, you can still play as long as you observe social distancing.

Right now I'm at the farm in Victoria and want to be flown back in a Lancair to Gawler to collect my Jabiru.

Can anybody see a problem with this? There will be 2 of us in the Lancair going there but one in each plane coming back.

If you still happen to be at the farm here in Victoria:

I checked with CASA, and they are not making the decisions on who flies; the State Department of Health is making those decisions, and currently it is based on the big bold statement below.

Similarly CFIs aren't authorised to override Department of Health. The Chief Medical officers are making the decisions, and the Commonwealth and State Governments are following those decisions, and we don't have the authority to invent our own logic and twist it around until, bingo! we can fly.

The Victorian Premier has laid out very clearly what he expects of us over this weekend:

"IF YOU CAN STAY HOME YOU MUST STAY HOME"

He gave this address about an hour ago; Please look at it understand it (The two week self-isolation is over; arrivals will be doing the two weeks under supervision of Police and ADF, going to other states may be doing their two weeks in Melbourne)

........you could buy a gallon of petrol for thirty cents.

Captain couldn't help himself and started it with: "Drifters are SXXX!, and ........"

Turbo respectfully points out that in the above post #11:17 Captain AGAIN has, in his excitement of possibly catching Turbo in a rare mistake, made another of his many mistakes and he himself, who wakes up every morning saying "How are we this morning, your Greatness" referrng to the mirror in his room. He usually replies in a much quieter and weaker voice "Very well your highness" except for one day when Turbo secreted a voice activated microphone which triggered a recording of Turbo's Plumber, Darryl's booming voice saying 'NONE THE BETTER FOR YOUR ASKING, XXXX!"

Turbo is also intrigued at the bonding between Captain and bull, one using all lower case; it's a bit like the film Big Fauss and Little Halsey, so at any minute we may see them break out in a Thruster, one flying and the other doing gasket changes as passenger, or even........

Very sad. Though you got to question just why he were allowed to be at that particular care area ?

He was probably told by the local golf club that it was OK, or a guy at the local servo said "We're all doing it.

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Police are manning the border crossings

The American tourists have left a positive case in Coonawarra, so all the wineries are in lockdown.

Two of the American tourists absconded from SA isolation and managed to get on a flight to the US, so there will be a trail of contamination through the towns they stopped at.

People are pretty jittery over there now.

I tried in vain for information about flying. Getting a big fine would ruin your day .

So I tried looking up golf, and they say that while clubhouses must be closed, you can still play as long as you observe social distancing.

Right now I'm at the farm in Victoria and want to be flown back in a Lancair to Gawler to collect my Jabiru.

Can anybody see a problem with this? There will be 2 of us in the Lancair going there but one in each plane coming back.

SA borders are closed; if you cross the border you have to register (on the road borders it's with the SA Police) and go into two weeks isolation. If you want to go back to the farm and cross into Victoria its another two weeks after you cross (and Victoria is just about to go into total lock down, starfting to give estimates for last ventilators earlier this morning). The story from the Sout East is the Edenhope supermarket was stripped about a week ago by profiteers. Police on the Pinnaroo Crossing, but Bordertwon and Mount Gambier was a complete stuff up with caravans coming through on Wednesday; probably locked down now.

I was going to write something about the complications of Adelaide Edenhope, but didn't think you'd be venturing out of Adelaide.

2000 Americans travelled from Melbourne through the south east a couple of weeks ago and left two positive for the virus in Mount Gambier and one in Penola - pretty close to Edenhope. That was the group that was finally caught up with in the Barossa Valley.

Having read the federal and Victorian publications I cannot see any legal reason prohibiting private flying if you comply with the 4sqm directive and boarder restrictions. My opinion is the government would like everyone to remain isolated as much as possible but the regulations in place do not prohibit movement so travelling by yourself to a private hangar to operate a private aircraft appears to me to be quite legal. I say this as an aerial spray chopper just flew overhead to work on a nearby property.