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........he finds out, but Turbo's confidante, Loxie monitors everything, and the conspirators found, not Turbo sleeping as they expected, but a dozen detectives with face masks and pepper spray who arrested them for attempted murder, a crime which carried double penalties from midnight last night. "What are we going to doooooo? wailed Planey. "Shutup hissed the Captain, I'll try to.................

So how come more people recover in Victoria?

We're tough bastards down here, brought up not to whinge about a little flu germ; to get on with it; stand up for the Nation because no one else will.

....had expected, maybe Border Force could smell the fumes?

So Turbo researched 23 hours a day, only stopiing to read the Bible, and on the third day, installed an automatic toothpaste dispenser on the turboencabulator, after remembering that the only thing that go him out of trouble for smoking as a kid was toothpaste.

It was quiet on the border tonight; Acting Sergeant Planey sniffed the air; after all these years he had almost caught Turbo, who wouldn't be so lucky next time. He revved up his Border Force operatives which now included 300 girls from Ingams Chickens. They'd been chicken pluckers but had been put out of work after people had moved to the 43 milion tonnes of rice and pasta they'd hoarded. Scotty from marketing had repurposed them to Border Force, giving them uniforms and full pay. They had been trained by Planey himself, although there had been several incidents which woulod be dealt with at a later date.

Planey now had them all on red alert.

Nobody knew precisely when it happened, but the Borderforce group noticed the smell of Oral B on the wind. No one realised that............

My overriding concern is that when the hysteria is over, the undeclared martial law that has been instituted, remains with government realising that it can use unfettered power without the population resisting. All they need to do is to create a crisis.

Check the powers related to State of Emergency and State of Disaster, and who gets them, amd the dates. They weren't written yesterday.

.........solve the problem, but when he did his due diligence he reeled back in horror at the list of broken promises, so after insulting his best friend Turbo (NES readers have all the evidence they need above) he was forced to grovel, which he does frequently but very badly.

Turbo built an extra condensor module on the back of the turboencabulator, added vector-capability, widened the fuselage, and lengthened it six times, then fitted a high-lift wing. To avoid the problems Boeing had with the 737, Turbo took all instruments out. It was to be operated on the basis of "Fly like a man!" True to his word, he delivered the first aircraft within a week, and......

Sad day. This morning I drove to the airport and brought my little plane home for long-term storage.

Each time I do this, the steel bores need to be oiled to postpone corrosion as long a possible.

That operation requires the engine to be warmed thoroughly. To do this without overheating the heads, lots of airflow is required. That means taxi runs at 2000rpm up and down the airstrip; if full flaps are deployed it might lift off and skim the strip just above stall speed...

I understand that but how do you equate that with the quarter million breadwinners who lost, on one day, their income for the forseeable future?

We've been told to say at home to save lives.

Hi folks!

 

Have found the different perspectives voiced on this thread most illuminating. Its important we have these debates to decide upon our collective actions and policy responses very carefully.

 

But back to the OP about Covid impacts on flying. I had cause to chat with my aviation insurance bloke yesterday and he told me "Alan, the worlds gone nuts! Its bedlam, my phone hasn't stopped ringing!"

 

So asked what was up? He told me he had blokes calling him to tell him their aircraft ware parked across the border and they couldn't get to them, some charter guys were having problems with the 2m spacing regs and were trying to rip out seats and toss them out of the hatch, others were having their charter routes or scenic flights closed and everybody wanted to know whether insurance would cover lost business owing to 'downtime'.

 

Just yesterday RAAus members received a message from the two Michaels highlighting deliberate vagueness in CASA instructions about flying at present, but erring on the side of caution and suggesting we stay grounded.

 

Me, I have my own home strip and could restrict flight to within the boundaries of my own property. But you know what? Unless a worthwhile reason for me to fly comes up, Im going to stay grounded for now. I think thats probably in the best interests of the community.

 

Some here may feel the entitlement to keep flying through this crisis. Its an individual decision. I've made mine.

 

Our aircraft will still be there when this is over or we genuinely need them sooner.

 

best of luck to all

 

Alan

It doesn't surprise me that is what you call "vagueness" from the two Michaels. The reply to my request to CASA had a classification which protects CASA, and RAA would, as part of the structure have the same. The Chief Medical officer is effectively making aviation decisions within the State of Emergency. State Police and State Health Officers are handling Compliance and Enforcement now, not CASA or RAA (in respect to health).

We are now in Stage three with the four easy to understand essential reasons for leaving your home; private and recreational flying are not among them, the even simpler message being "IF YOU CAN STAY HOME YOU MUST STAY HOME"

There are still around 3% Bondi Bandits who don't want to stay home are are throwing up Dorothy Dixers, but Victorian Police were kicking them out of the Parks and Gardens this morning, and the Victorian Chief medical Officer exaplained that an exception was made for couple lioving apart, but when the journalists tried him on with questions similar to "Can I go somewhere where there are no people and do something there" the answers were a stream of Nos.

I'm not sure what news you're getting where you are, but apart from Australia.gov.au, and the NT government site which are posting latest links everfy day, the Covid-19 message which should be appearing on all Australian Facebook pages, the Commonwealth WhatsAapp link, there is the NT News which you can access from your property.

This mornings NT News covers:

Harts Range couple test positive in Alice Springs

22 positive Territory-related cases (two more this morning)

Howard Springs camp reopened to house cases

Second person fined for failing to self-isolate

100 Australian Federal Police heading to NT to manage borders and biosecurity zones

Compensation for lost business will have been addressed by the Chief Minister who is part of the National Cabinet; just a matter of asking.

Good decision to stay grounded. If you were to have an accident you could be infected by first responders coming to help you, or worse, no one being available. RFDS were operating at full capacity about a week ago and we are not in the peak yet (I'm not sure if that was just a busy day or not). It's not an individual decision by the way, fines range from $1,000 to $1,650.00 for small offences then go up to around $6,000 to $10,000, and the most severe I've seen is ten years imprisonment.

I wouldn't be trawling website looking for an escape.

........apres Ski Martinis in Aspen, and Sailor's Rum at the Portsea Polo Club.

He missed the trip this year, because of the chance of spreading the virus, and asked his mates to do the same, but they pressed ahead, and came back infected Portsea hase become one of Victoria's biggest clusters along with Toorak, and they are about as popular as the Rat's under the house.

Turbo has had to field numerous accusations at the Supermarket. Nasty things like "You horse floggers are gunna hill grandma", but soon shut up when Turbo responds: "I was here giving her food you flog!"

Then Turbo's RF Page was hacked, and derisive comments made about his best fried Captain. The fact that most of them were true was irrelevent, it hurt his feelings which you can see from his pathetic cry for justice above. Turbo is pleased to report that he traced the culprit and shoved his head down a sewer for a few minutes, and he's unlikely to do it again.

Not many people know this, but Turbo pays for the subscription for the Times to be flown in from London for the Captain who despises any other form of news.

Yesterday the Times ran an expose on a group of expat Australians, including the Captain (his name wasn't mentioned but you couldn't miss the description) who, when the Vietnam War was in full swing, were invilved in.......

Testing number is a good point when looking country by country.

 

Noted the following highlights from WSJ and The Age today.

 

Japan is doing limited testing. Even the prime minister questions this.

 

Sample quantities of 2,000 people in given European communities are being tested to see “what the iceberg looks like”. That seems a very smart move.

 

Italy and Spain in such serious trouble traced back to a single football match in Feb. 35% of the Spanish team/ crew came home with virus. That’s a shocking number!

 

China is busy polishing the turd they gave the world with the hope of spinning a different narrative.

 

Germany. Some 60% polled last week didn’t think quarantine was something they’d bother too much with and some 40% thought the virus wasn’t a big deal.....hopefully that’s changed this week and it does reflect the west’s attitude up until very recently.

 

Thought I’d write that out while still retained. It’ll all leak out in the next few hours ??

I'd suggest you go on Australia.gov.au and catch up with what our strategy is, and also the Victorian Government site, and you can see the cases, the ages, the deaths (still very low) and the policies, and also the Coomonwealth and Victorian Health sites.

We now have a huge team on tracing downstream from a confirmed case and upstream to see where it came from, and isolating all those links. We are at least a year away from a tested vaccine which will knock out this virus, so the key is separating so you don't get it. If you dopn't get it you won't spread it.

Our Chief Medical Officer has explained there's not much point in hanging off overseas talk because the virus entered each country in a different way and was able to multiply in a different way.

We have just started to enter the "local Population transfer" phase which will test our rules and in about 4 weeks we'll know how we went (2 weeks symptom to test+2 weeks ilolation to clear).

We were following the South Korean testing regime; in the past two weeks, we've gone from testing 2000, to 4000, to 100,000 and climbing, so things are looking good.

Twiggy Forest has donated $160 million for urgent equipment, flew 1 million masks in from China last night and will be expanding the to include ventilators.

However it still sounds like you're safer where you are.

I've got a feeling the day's going to very sorry it didn't keep its hands to itself.

The 2017-18 flu was way worse than covid-19 it's not even close.

For all those who say but vaccine it did not work to well in 17-18

The 2017 flu season killed 1255

The current prediction by the Deputy Chief Medical officer of Australia for Covid-19 remains at 50,000 best case, 150,000 worst case.

It's too early to be making sweeping statements since the transmissions within the Australian population have just started, and the peak is expected this month or May.

There is some cautious optimism given that our stepped isolation programme has worked so well, testing in the past few days went from 2,000 to 4,000 to 100,000 and there is now a massive testing team to track down the spread of the virus, and we've had time to massively increase the number of ICU and Ventilators, but both State and Commonwealth CMOs are pointing out that, like fighting a bushfire, getting it under control, and a strong wind springing up, this virus is capable of massive flaring.

Without a doubt the actions taken to date have bought us time and that time has radically improved our current situation.

I go to my hangar and fly, it's a safety requirment to make sure the planes are secure and safe. You are allowed to get in yr car to drive somewhere for excersise, you also are allowed to go meet a friend ( only 1) for a coffee, it's all on the Govt health website, it's the hysteria and fearmongering that has everyone in a panic!

There's always one person one step behind. You're talking about Stage 2, we are now in Stage 3.

Your Premier tried to make it clear when he said "If you can stay at home, you MUST stay at home.

........and here, dear readers you can see the poor man is in denial; Turbo thought perhaps a book might help, like "Cappy, the tiny shrimp who turned into a big crayfish" or.........

........with the boost to self esteem, nature would take over.

Turbo doesn't like to give away private information, but for the comfort of other failures, he has to say that the Captain was a failure with this process. Mavis had been whingeing about it for years. "I might as well have been lying in bed listening to the XXXXXXX canary sing" she used to say to Turbo in the days before the blowup. What could he do?

...........men were being disadvantaged by women who had the advantage of liposuction, plastic surgery (they called it that because they could make plastic faces) and a whole variety of lifting and containing equipment that left the shipping industry behind.

"I formed a movement called Men's Liberation and we used to meet at a cafe in Carlton every Friday night, while Germaine Greer had her group at the opposite end of the City. Out of those meetings came the name we coined for the aspirations of men; Diversity.

The first step was to see what the problem was, hence the mirrors; next .......

........solve the problem of his shrinking Jabiru seat, and rigging "problem" he keeps talking about, not to mention....

The total tracking team would blow your mind.

As in tracking the virus not people’s phones. Once the positive person tells them who he/she has been in contact with they go and talk to them, get them tested etc.

I think the dual approach is fine, I just wish they had listened and acted sooner. Commentators like Bolt and Jones are positively dangerous IMHO.

With a full lockdown, in an instant you are telling Australians not to venture outside their doors, wait for food to be delivered, and we didn'y have the capacity to deliver to 25 million people. People would have just gone out and bought their food.

The staggered approach was like herding cats, but all but a few percent are in a much safer place than if we'd gone cold turkey.

The staggered approach kept kids in school during the time when the virus was fanning out from overseas visitors, and allowed, I think about 300,000 of the workforce to be temporarily re-employed to help with servicing the large group of people now in the homes.

Someone will eventually write a book about this crisis and we'll all know how soon they started working on it, but my guess is December/January for how they were going to manage it. Don't forget it was always the Chief Medical Officers deciding the strategy and calling the shots.

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/state-of-emergency-declared-in-victoria-over-covid-19/

They already know most movements. Your phone gives all the info needed. Virus doesn't spread by itself. It needs a vector and it's US and is often animals. It's also mutating, though not very much. Enough to track different sources. Nev

The total tracking team would blow your mind. I seem to remember them saying this morning the State teams have interviewed 40,000 people and is about to be expanded.

If they can keep reaching and testing the people who have been in contact with the positive tester, they avoid the massive exponential expansion, and can extinguish the branches of the original Patient.

We are allowed to be with the people who normally share the same domestic residence, ie spouse and kids. That makes sense. Does the ban on travelling include making a picnic lunch and putting the family in the car to go for a drive, as long as no one gets out of the car to mingle with strangers? Does in include going for a scenic flight with one of the family on board? What about if I jump on my motorcycle, which only has one seat, and I go for a ride in the local countryside?

The Prime Minister himself covered that yesterday.

There's no room for interpretation; if you think about it it is specifically to save lives.

A Chinese Richmond Cafe owner found out the hard way yesterday with a $9,900 fine.

An Assistant Commissioner of Victoria Police just said about an hour and a half ago: "Unless you've been living under a rock or you are an idiot, you know the restrictions.

Maybe the Queensland Premier knows Toowoomba better than we do because this morning she explained how the Attorney General had been tasked to reorganise the Justice Dept staff to work with Health to go after the people who aren't getting the message.

.....hastily cut cap which he turned into double eye patches, and.....

I think both. Our airport is moribund, with REX making its' last few flights in before it plans to close on 6th. Both flying schools have closed down. A few local private owners have been up to keep the oil circulating, but we had a couple 'new' aircraft in over the weekend. Actually the hangar is a refuge for me atm : get to plant some kikuyu, clean up inside, wash aircraft, and keep out of my brides hair for a few hours. I don't see any risk to the quarantine principle by doing a local flight. I think the authorities are starting to verge on censorship of the 1st order when they begin to draw lines between 'essential' or 'recreational'. Anyway, keep your sense of humour everyone - we are going to need to. happy days,

The wording changed at midnight.

.......big help to Walt, getting things started and carrying the burden of going on tours.

Turbo could only find this Wikipedia line about him: "Jimmie was seldom seen in the Mouseketeer production numbers in the later seasons,"

Not many people know that Jimmy came up with a plan to use the exciting new (for that time) Bensen Gyrocopters to take part in a spectacular dance ending to one of the shows. He, like everyone else had been reassured they were perfectly safe, you couldn't crash them because they just whirls their way to the ground and they were going to become the next Studebaker, but........

Not quite. There are a few aircraft continually in the circuit at Archerfield here this morning with a handful of aircraft enroute in or out of there.

 

As the supermarkets have refused to restock their shelves for the past 3 weeks with peanuts, let alone pasta or toilet paper, yesterday Mrs Possum and I felt the need to do some essential shopping at the Peanut Van in Kingaroy - their toasting factory is in an industrial area almost adjacent to the airport. At 2.6 km there and back, we got our exercise as well.

 

With an enjoyable flight - 1 hour there and 1 hour back - a legal purpose is all you need to find. Appropriate social distancing is required involving single aircraft only. Obviously no recreational swarming with a group of aircraft or pilots and passengers would be permitted.

 

Things were very quiet at both airports with no-one showing the slightest interest in what we were up to. This lockdown seems to be an urban thing. We noticed nothing but a normal working day in Kingaroy. Returning to Archerfield, there was very little traffic and we were offered a choice of runways by Archer Tower.

In a case like that, your Department of Health is making the decisions on what is essential travel.

NSW have had problems with people bucking the Health instructions and broght in a new penalty of six months imprisonment to stiffen resolve, as well as expanding the enforcement group. It's up to you; most people understand that chance meetings or touching infected surfaces/packages can spread the infection.

I will concede that they have outlawed flying now. Unnecessary, really.

But at least I got a good few hours in over the weekend while it was still legal rather than listening to the disinformation posted by yourself.

What bothers me most about it is that you claim to read instructive documents regularly, so the misinformation must have been deliberate.

Shouldn’t Dan have the other hand raised?

Have you seen Kyle? He’s about this high. ?

Your first comment indicates you still don't understand the reason and nor did the people who continued mixing in Stage 2, which is why we got Stage 3.

If you chose to fly when subustantial penalties were being applied, that's your problem; I checked before posting my information.

There was no misinformation so there was nothing deliverate. Independent of anything I said a busy airport like Moorabbin was able to cut flights in its traning area by nearly 100%. CASA wasn't calling the shots, DHHS were.