Landing Fees

[skippydiesel]

Well there you go - One lives & learns.

 

I have been under the impression that ALL public listed/accessible  airfields must conform the the minimum standards  eg width, approach & departure, windsocks, etc

 

"Given you are meant to contact the owner/operator of. UNCR Airports prior to landing on them"

 

Again this is new to me - I have always understood that accessing an ERSA  listed airfield (open to the flying public) required no permission UNLESS so stated

 

"Might be with noting they don't have to specify PPR for this to apply."

 

As above - not my understanding - I guess the owner could ask you to leave, once landed but thats about the limit of their rights. 

 

ALA's are a diffrent matter. These are almost always private (inc. company) airfields/paddocks/ farm roads/etc, of unknown dimension & condition. Not listed in ERSA. Not required to comply with standards. You would be crazy not to seek permission to land, get advice on runway condition, hazards, etc. Landing on an ALA is completely at the pilots discretion.  Should their be a resulting incident, may not be covered by either the ALA owners or pilots insurance .😈

Edited 2 hours ago by skippydiesel

[Love to fly]

8 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Well there you go - One lives & learns.

 

I have been under the impression that ALL public listed/accessible  airfields must conform the the minimum standards  eg width, approach & departure, windsocks, etc

 

"Given you are meant to contact the owner/operator of. UNCR Airports prior to landing on them"

 

Again this is new to me - I have always understood that accessing an ERSA  listed airfield (open to the flying public) required no permission UNLESS so stated

 

"Might be with noting they don't have to specify PPR for this to apply."

 

As above - not my understanding - I guess the owner could ask you to leave, once landed but thats about the limit of their rights. 

 

ALA's are a diffrent matter. These are almost always private (inc. company) airfields/paddocks/ farm roads/etc, of unknown dimension & condition. Not listed in ERSA. Not required to comply with standards. You would be crazy not to seek permission to land, get advice on runway condition, hazards, etc. Landing on an ALA is completely at the pilots discretion.  Should their be a resulting incident, may not be covered by either the ALA owners or pilots insurance .😈

I'm guessing you didn't look at the link I posted, reposted here.  https://www.casa.gov.au/operations-safety-and-travel/aerodromes/uncertified-aerodromes#Usinganuncertifiedaerodrome

ALA's were in the ERSA when I learnt to fly 20 years ago.  At some stage they got renamed UNCR.  They are the same thing.   The Oaks is also shown as UNCR in ERSA.  Screenshot below.

[skippydiesel]

3 hours ago, BurnieM said:

I could not disagree with this more.

 

And it is up to the user of the info to ensure they are taking information ONLY from the airfield owners website.

 

Obviously I disagree -

 

Australia has ERSA . An official document, updated severs times a year, essentially the pilots bible of AU airfields.

 

All this talk about contacting owners, alternative web sites, etc, etc ad infinitum,  is just undermining, what should be the accepted standard - If its in ERSA, its the word of God! If it isn't, it doesn't exist!😈