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Sorry I misunderstood. It's the previous failure of a Class 2 or Class 2, and the other ineligibilities that I think some are missing.

Wonder what's in the detail of the declaration, and think there is a document you're saying you've read and that you meet the requirements of?

My understanding is that the Class 5 isn't that onerous, but if you have ever been rejected for a Class 2 you are ineligible for a Class 5. Given that's why many change to raaus.....

Sure. But if you didn't build you still need to do the other course as well. MPC just about paperwork etc.

Is that for the MPC, or the new hands on course to enable non builders to do their own maintenance?

For us MPC waa done years ago. Pre CofA, along with weight and balance certificate. We remain SAAA members but it isn't mandatory to do so.. Just like the friends and social aspect.

I mentioned the proposed charges in my post. Methinks it will be way under the annual raaus fee. Let alone the combined membership and registration fee currently being charged by raaus. And one school of thought is it is being introduced to protect raaus from members leaving for GA. Whether this is correct I have no idea. Perceived advantage 🤔 no raaus membership or registration fees paid by me in nearly 2 decades. No annual fee paid to casa. My biannual Class 2 medical hasn't been very expensive, and I could always downgrade to a Class 5 which is less than the cost of a cup of good coffee. We're way ahead I think. Happy to be shown to be wrong.

Okay. SAAA and the RV group both have negotiated insurance deals. Not sure of the details. We are insured with Agile, via their RV policy. Doubt that we are paying any more than we would be paying to include hull insurance etc via RAAUS. We would certainly be ahead when we factor in the membership & registration fees.

I moved to GA many years back. Less than a year after gaining my RPC. No medical issues or reasons to not fly GA that I could see. And for me aerobatics was a definite want. Later IFR became important. Insurance - correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the RAAUS insurance fairly limited? I thought it only covered 3rd party type stuff? We do have hull insurance etc. But cost is based on plane value, not VH vs numbers.

Yep. In case my previous post was too obscure for some. From where I sit RAAus costs more per year than GA. Let alone for owner maintained experimental aircraft. Annual membership and annual registration fees in the RAAUS world make the proposed VH annual registration fee seem trivial.

Hmm now I'm really struggling with this one. Lower annual fees and the above list have really helped remind me what I'm not missing 🤔😂 So, I can currently fly aerobatics, formation and. IFR. Can fly in controlled airspace. Routine maintenance, apart from the avionics, is done by us. Guessing I should rejoin RAAUS and gain all the benefits of my RPC. 🤔🤔

The proposed annual registration fee for GA looks kinda trivial against the fees I'd need to pay if I went back to RAAUS. Club membership and plane registration annually seem way up there to this bystander. Remind me what the advantages are of raaus?

So no longer run by Amber? Hopefully will become a viable destination again. Has the restaurant reopened do you know?

I'm guessing you didn't look at the link I posted, reposted here. https://www.casa.gov.au/operations-safety-and-travel/aerodromes/uncertified-aerodromes#Usinganuncertifiedaerodrome ALA's were in the ERSA when I learnt to fly 20 years ago. At some stage they got renamed UNCR. They are the same thing. The Oaks is also shown as UNCR in ERSA. Screenshot below.

CASA and Airservices Acronyms. Definitely not mine. 🙂 And an ALA = UNCR these days, the following link may help https://www.casa.gov.au/operations-safety-and-travel/aerodromes/uncertified-aerodromes#Usinganuncertifiedaerodrome Great Lakes - quotes PPR but is marked as UNCR so the PPR is actually not needed as it is implicit. Atherton - Uncertified Bairnsdale is Certified