BrendAn Posted June 1 Posted June 1 latrobe valley airport has a reasonable system. if you are hangared there you don't get charged at all. 2 2
skippydiesel Posted June 1 Author Posted June 1 2 hours ago, Garfly said: None of that should be discouraged by ridiculous fees imposed by councils who haven't got a clue. Anything over $10 for a 600 kg Max TO weight aircraft, is daylight robbery - perhaps they want you gone😈 1
BrendAn Posted June 1 Posted June 1 At my local airfield. West sale. It would take them a week to get a hundred bucks. I don't know why they think it's worth upsetting everyone for that. It's a no fly zone 5 days a week for private pilots. And usually 2 or 3 people flying on the weekend. 2
skippydiesel Posted June 1 Author Posted June 1 2 hours ago, BrendAn said: Casual $60 Ultra Lights & 2 seater singles Private Single $60 Under 5700 kg Private Twin $60 Under 5700 kg lakes entrance this is privately owned i think "Private Twin $60 Under 5700 kg" ? Cri Cri? What constitutes an "Ultra Lights & 2 seater singles" ? Doesn't make a lot of sense, other than they dont want your business.😈 1 1
BrendAn Posted June 1 Posted June 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, skippydiesel said: "Private Twin $60 Under 5700 kg" ? Cri Cri? What constitutes an "Ultra Lights & 2 seater singles" ? Doesn't make a lot of sense, other than they dont want your business.😈 I would never land there for that rate. $60 is rediculous. Maybe you get a 3 course meal included.😁 Edited June 1 by BrendAn 2
facthunter Posted June 1 Posted June 1 A Piper twin Comanche is 3725 Lbs AUW. A Navajo Chieftan is 7055 Lbs . Nev 2
Student Pilot Posted June 1 Posted June 1 I thought you'd be a metricated man Nev 🤣 you meant 1693 kg and 3206 kg 2
Love to fly Posted June 2 Posted June 2 21 hours ago, BrendAn said: At my local airfield. West sale. It would take them a week to get a hundred bucks. I don't know why they think it's worth upsetting everyone for that. It's a no fly zone 5 days a week for private pilots. And usually 2 or 3 people flying on the weekend. Why a no fly zone. Thought them carving out the routes in and out from the airspace meant RAAus pilots could fly through? 1
T510 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 13 minutes ago, Love to fly said: Why a no fly zone. Thought them carving out the routes in and out from the airspace meant RAAus pilots could fly through? RAAF training Mon - Fri, part of R360. Given the PC-21 lands quicker than most RAAus aircraft fly it's probably deemed the easiest way to minimise the risks 1
facthunter Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Subject to Notam, PRD zones are activated. Nothing to do with Landing fees. Nev
Garfly Posted June 2 Posted June 2 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Love to fly said: Sure, but aren't the VFR Routes still avaliable? Are you referring to D353 SFC/1500 VFR lane, LTF? I guess that'd always be available but wouldn't help Brendan and his mob stuck under an activated R360 at YWSL. I suppose D353 works like D589 which tunnels its way through Williamtown's military airspace. CLICK FOR FULL REZ: Edited June 2 by Garfly 2
Love to fly Posted June 2 Posted June 2 They cut the VFR lanes out of the restricted areas a few years back, specifically to enable RAAUS pilots to transit. There used to be a procedure to use land or deoart West Sale when area was acrive. But it's been a few years since I moved, these days I'm usually just transmitting past. No issues with that. 3
skippydiesel Posted June 2 Author Posted June 2 I have writen to Council owners of Dalby & Armidale, regarding their failure to post the their respective airport fees in ERSA - I await their responses with interest. I did a very brief, random, search through ERSA, to get an idea of what airports are posting Landing Fees - not many. A few give comprehensive/unambiguous information. Most have a variation of; AD Charges; Refer to web site. or AD Charges: All aircraft. 😈 1
BrendAn Posted June 2 Posted June 2 3 hours ago, Love to fly said: They cut the VFR lanes out of the restricted areas a few years back, specifically to enable RAAUS pilots to transit. There used to be a procedure to use land or deoart West Sale when area was acrive. But it's been a few years since I moved, these days I'm usually just transmitting past. No issues with that. no movement from west sale when airspace is activated. only the flying school operates because they are commercial. 3
Moneybox Posted June 2 Posted June 2 On 01/06/2026 at 3:36 PM, facthunter said: A Piper twin Comanche is 3725 Lbs AUW. A Navajo Chieftan is 7055 Lbs . Nev In this game anything goes. We measure height in feet, speed in knots and power in HP more often then not. 1 2
Reynard Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Here are last year’s fees for visiting Horn Island for 1 night. (Torres’s Strait.) Yes, it’s remote and stuff is expensive. Extract from council websites fees & charges page : Passenger Charge - Other Operators. Charge per passenger calculated assuming that number of passengers is 70% of aircraft carrying capacity. One arrival and one departure charge will be invoiced in association with each landing record. $18.00 A landing charge per tonne pro-rata of an aircraft's maximum take-off weight, with minimum charge equivalent to MTOW of 1 tonne. Applies to landing, touch and go, stop and go. (MAXIMUM OF ONE LANDING CHARGE PER AIRCRAFT PER HOUR) $34.05 Parking. A charge per Tonne MTOW per night $8.00 TOTAL for a 2 seat aircraft (pilot only, no pax) = $114.05 I’ve been led to believe the actual billing amount may differ, dependant upon who does the calculation on the day of your visit. it’s not completely clear to me how the total amount is determined from the above council website info. 3
PapaFox Posted June 2 Posted June 2 Not that I support Avdata, but they do list the current prices on their site https://avdata.com.au/airport-charge-rates 1 5
onetrack Posted June 2 Posted June 2 "One arrival and one departure charge"?? They get you, coming AND going?? That makes some of the more outrageous Council charges look tame. 2
Love to fly Posted June 2 Posted June 2 2 hours ago, BrendAn said: no movement from west sale when airspace is activated. only the flying school operates because they are commercial. Interesting. The ERSA states an airways clearance is required when the airspace is active. Not that it's only available for commercial flights. Do they always deny clearances for private aircraft? They are fairly accommodating when transiting through the area.
facthunter Posted June 2 Posted June 2 re the Kg's wts All the USA built Planes had the weights in Lbs and to 500 or 1000 Lbs, When converted to Kgs they ended up all sorts of hard to remember figures. Nev 1 1
BrendAn Posted June 2 Posted June 2 4 minutes ago, Love to fly said: Interesting. The ERSA states an airways clearance is required when the airspace is active. Not that it's only available for commercial flights. Do they always deny clearances for private aircraft? They are fairly accommodating when transiting through the area. I have never looked into it that much. I know some people have been working with the RAAF trying to establish corridors in and out of sale but nothing yet that I know of. The main problem I think is the RAAF do a lot of training at West sale and probably don't want annoying civilians getting in the way.
Love to fly Posted June 2 Posted June 2 4 minutes ago, BrendAn said: I have never looked into it that much. I know some people have been working with the RAAF trying to establish corridors in and out of sale but nothing yet that I know of. The main problem I think is the RAAF do a lot of training at West sale and probably don't want annoying civilians getting in the way. Okay. I think there is an issue legally with raaus clearances, hence the carve out of the VFR Routes. But fairly sure GA VHF registered could get clearance to depart/return to the airport. But not to just fly around within the RA. 2
skippydiesel Posted June 2 Author Posted June 2 1 hour ago, PapaFox said: Not that I support Avdata, but they do list the current prices on their site https://avdata.com.au/airport-charge-rates I think you miss the point. Australia has an official, authoritative, information source for pilots, its called the En Route Supplement Australia (ERSA). ALL airport data should be in ERSA, including the airport fee schedule (landing/movement/parking/etc). A pilot planning an "away" trip should not need to search for the airport fees - they should be in the ERSA data for the airport(s) he/she wish to access, on their trip - End of story. If its in ERSA, the information it can be relied on. Alternative sources do not carry the authority of ERSA . 😈 1 1 1
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