Captain

Captain, I can't begin to tell you how warm and fuzzy your endorsement makes me!

I had so much distain for CAMS when I was involved with car racing I got out of it. Most competitors have contempt for their organisation, because often it doesn't run for them. It usually runs for money.. Nev

Congratulations Oscar. Your posts #266 & #267 are the most sensible and non-obtuse that I have seen from you. I could actually understand what you are getting at without resorting to a Thesaurus and some Panadol. Small praise, I know, from a member of the great unwashed like me, but keep that up and you'll just become one of the boys (& girls ..... NTTIAWWT) on here. Next thing you'll be contributing to the NES and even smiling a bit. Regards Geoff

...... all spend most nights at the BOB under assumed names. I'll use ............

Nev,

I'm not against blokes or blokettes that crack on and get things done, and as you know, there are a few on here that did just that when RA-Oz went off the rails in 2012.

What I am against, however, is those who appoint themselves to "represent" us either in motorcycling, in aviation or in any other walk of life.

Damian C got an AO for his efforts, but geez he worked his way through a lot of supporters and organisations on the way.

And while I am at it, my other pet hate is those that are on their quest for an AO. I am also involved in the Clay Target Sports and many who are administering that sport are putting in the years in the quest for an Aussie Day Honour. I didn't realise it until a few years ago that there is a whole group/strata in Aussie Society who work the Aussie Day Honours system, in one way through a you guys nominate me and we'll all nominate you type of approach. Motorcycling is no different as I was a member of the Competitions Committee of the ACU of NSW for some years last century and saw this at work there too.

Regards Geoff

Captain, the mere fact that you can use supercilious correctly convinced me that you are an educated and literate member of the RAA community - as are almost all of us I have ever met. I don't believe that we have to come across as rednecks to be 'one of the boys' in this group and I certainly don't think it is in the interests of the RAA community to suggest that we have a limited capacity to comprehend sophisticated reasoning in responding to the challenges we face in trying to gain credibility for having a responsible and considered approach to the numerous issues that we face: trying to get a decent response to regulatory problems, combating the ever-diminishing availability of airfields in regional and rural areas, trying to engender the acceptance of 'Recreational'-class aviation as a socially desirable activity and suchlike.Having (successfully) represented the interests of motorcyclists ( a group then generally considered to be somewhat below-par in the intelligence stakes) to the Federal Minister of Transport a considerable way back in time and having achieved quite a significant improvement in our acceptability (as a result, we were specifically included in the authority that set Vehicle Performance and Safety Standards, for a start) I can attest to the efficacy of presentation of cogent, intelligible reasons for a position. The Minister involved was Peter Nixon, who gleefully embraced the description of him as 'the bastard from the bush' as his nick-name and my being a pompous ass did our cause no harm at all, you may be slightly surprised to learn.

 

If you care to read the report of the HORSCOTS enquiry - http://www.recreationalflying.com/tutorials/students/horscots_1987_PP3A.pdf - (paras. 106 -108) you will see the difficulties that a combative, ''good 'ol boy" attitude on the part of the then President of the AUF, George Markey - had done to the progress of ultralight activity in Australia. George was a mate of mine - as far as one could be with George, who took first place in the World's Championship for difficult people to get along with (there was no second-place awarded, as the competition was just not in the same league). He stayed at my place on numerous occasions when traveling south; I've stayed with him on his boat when I traveled to Bundaberg. George did an immeasurable service to Australian sports aviation by being one of two who re-cast Part 103 of the CASR's . Sharing a hangar with George while we worked on our respective aircraft was a re-make of the 'Rumble in the Jungle', but George would bounce his submissions to CASA off me for comment - and even sometimes take notice of my comments! Given what George did manage to achieve, I'm not inclined to take the criticism of certain loudmouth members of the Rec. Av. community at all seriously (and FWIW, you aren't yet included in that category, though you can, if you wish, continue to strive for that honour).

 

You evidently thought you were the target of my comments - you weren't. No cigar there, Captain.

A few points:

1 What you speak of in the above is mostly very ancient history. You aren't falling for the trap, are you, that the older you get, the smarter and more relevant you used to be, because the manner in which you write certainly makes it appear that you think yourself smarter, more edumacated and more successful that I bet you are or were.

2 I note your para 2 about how you and your towering intellect single handedly saved those dumb motorcyclists. Now I are one of them and I have to say that the motorcycle community has been sprinkled with the likes of you and the Damian Codognotto types who think that their towering intellect gives them some God-given right to "represent" the interests of motorcyclists.

Having road-raced bikes through the '70's, ridden on the road ever since, and presently owning a number of machines, what haughty blokes like you don't realise is that the reason most true motorcyclists ride is to get away from dills who have the god given right to "represent" us.

You obviously haven't read Boris Mihailovic's articles in AMCN where he calls out all the "representatives" of motorcycling for the pretentious supercilious drongos that they are.

3 I note your reference to the Horscots Report from 1987. Now, that is all well and good and I'm sure that you felt yourself to be very relevant at the time, but that is a long way back into last century when you may have thought yourself to be at your prime, but all of your threads on this Forum make you appear now to be a pompous, stuck up, bitter & somewhat irrelevant old bloke who uses obscure language for effect or to vainly try to impress, when it actually makes it look like you are just trying too hard.

And by extension, having saved those dopy unedumacated Motorcyclists back last century, here you are in a flash of bright light and wonderment to apply your talents to now save something to do with RA-Aus members.

Geeeez Louise, Occy, please save us from those that are self anointed to save us.

I also always marvel at those that blow into this Forum and are unwilling to nominate where they hail from our use their real names.

Regards Geoff

Having (successfully) represented the interests of motorcyclists ( a group then generally considered to be somewhat below-par in the intelligence stakes) to the Federal Minister of Transport ............

I would like to continue this little chat on this issue, so will move it over to the Aviation & Motorcycles thread. See ya there, eh?

Regards Geoff

Heck, Captain, I can spell 'correctly' at the same time as flying, honestly I can. I might have trouble SMS-ing 'Britannica' when joining downwind, but hey, nobody is perfect...

And I also admit that I should not have used the word "supercilious" when describing you, so apologies for that.

At that time I had the Thesaurus out searching for a single word that substituted for the term "pompous ass" and it was my fault for not sticking with that original description. Apologies again.

............ and the Encyclopaedia Brittanica describes ...............

It's called irony, Captain, and the Encyclopaedia Brittanica describes its etymology rather comprehensively. I admit to assuming that RAA members, by and large, have a reasonable IQ and a functional education. Certainly, the ones I have met fit into that description, and I am perhaps a hopeless romantic that they represent the majority. I'd like to think that those I share the sky with can fly and chew gum at the same time, and so far I have not been massively disappointed - just a bit shocked that there are aberrations to that norm.

It must be a burden being as smart as you are.

Smart doesn't always equate to supercilious, but in your case they are obviously linked, and there is a big difference between being truly "smart" and just being a smart-ars*.

While I haven't always agreed with Madge over the years before you blew in, I'd back him 100% of the time in preference to you.

Well, good grief! It all becomes clear!Those other 12 Board members who have noticeably NOT been running around squawking like chickens on speed are not, in fact, doing that because they are concentrated on getting the mess the RAA is in sorted out in a quiet and professional manner, but instead are obsessed with plotting ways to suppress the word of the only true prophet! Words cannot say how distraught I am to have this revealed. Perfidy, treachery and the obvious venality of their motives in closing up the OBC club that (apparently) is the RAA has been exposed!

 

I, for one, am not going to stand for it. I shall be conducting an extremely close investigation of the circumstances of the Board member I know well, and should I see a new Bentley in his driveway and a crisp new Bizjet in his hangar - well, I'm going to be asking him some pretty damn searching questions, mark my words.

 

Obviously it is time for a real demonstration of authenticity on the part of the one Board member who shines the light of truth, justice and democracy on the machinations of the RAA to convince the unbelievers. Given the apocryphal similes to another savior surrounded by 12 followers, I think that at the very least turning water into wine at Natfly is called for. I'm not going to be unreasonable and suggest that resurrection following crucifixion is required; one should not be required to surrender one's hammer and nails to someone else. Hell, even the ATO allows tools of trade as a reasonable deduction of one's occupation - and who am I to argue with them?

 

Yea, brothers, I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!

Can some normal forum members decipher/translate that please.

They may need to be a bit older than 40, does the 14th of February 1966 bring back any memories apart from flowers?

Now ........... back to the real business of this thread .................... I guess.

Ya can't win them all Geoff. How many people know what a florin is? Nev

The young tackers who are under 40 will probably be Google-ing it.

Regards Geoff

You would loose that Florin Rat, nobody has mentioned my info sharing..in fact just the opposite. It is purely my decision not to post here ATM . I will publish my Feb board member report shortly, and it will go to selected recipients in my area who actually appreciate my input and frankness. And all feedback I have recieved from the Jan one has been positive and constructive................Maj....

Another florin gone. Oh well.

Keep at it and talk to us here when you can ........... please.

Regards Geoff

Last time I looked at the Constitution there was no provision for board members to be committed to secrecy; this is an Incorporated Association required to operate in accordance with its constitution.

As you, I and others know, this has been discussed here many times over several years, and was also highlighted during last year's EGM ............ yet still all new RA-Aus Board Members are required to execute a document that requires Secrecy/Confidentiality before they are admitted into the Club.

As you also know, some of us took advice from my solicitor and a QC prior to last year's EGM and it was confirmed that the members have the definite right to know ALL that goes on within RA-Aus. The Board actually has NO right to keep any information from the members.

I believe that all members accept that some items are best considered by the Board "in camera" but as we know, communicative Board Members have been carpeted previously on numerous occasions and I'd be willing to bet you a Florin that Madge has been chatted by the OBC about his frankness to this Forum and to the members that he represents in his region, just like happened to John McKeown, Ian Baker and all the others who took seriously their accountability to the members who elected them.

It's a lot better since the EGM but still needs to be watched lest those corrosive old habits creep back in, as some of the Cone-of-Silence/Tell-the-members-bugger-all OBC are still there.

Regards Geoff

....... been kicking down the doors at the AUF office at Bogong (see attached photo).

"I have been kicking vewy vewy hard" said E Paul "Like we used to in the early days of the AUF when I flew a Drifter across Bass Strait against the wind, always below 300 ft, we only had 30 members, none of this license test malarkey, I was a legend in my own lunchbox (and you should have seen the sheilas that I attracted in my skin tight flight suit) and I had bona fide leadership qualities (since missing in action), but now that I have been relegated to be the boring historian of RAOZ, I will reform and take over the AUF. That way I will only have to read those boring account thingamajigs each 5 years and we can ....................

...... should be banned on a charge of excessive joke recycling.

"Oh ........... I see" said Ratus "Those aren't dresses on each one, those are dress-ings, which ............

...... ets below Tink's pink Glock."

"With regards to Tubby dressing up for the ball, as reported by the 12 incher, I know it for a fact that he has a tiny little deb dress on each one of them" answered Ratpoo, who for a laugh had been on the other side of the screen during Turdy's last confession.

"You should have heard what else he told me" volunteered Ratso with a gleam in his eye and a glint from his tooth (see various selfies below) "He even told me about his ...........

........... candor are in Andy's post # 8679.

"Candor? Candor?" asked a couple of the O2 wasters "What's candor?".

"Too right loyal sycophants. We need to enforce the code of silence again and ensure that no f'n Queenslander like Madge Jayco will ever blab to the membership" decreed NearTheStarto "I'll get a legal opinion, we'll arrange a postal vote, we'll get E Paul back to run the show, I'll jump back in as CEO and we'll ................

.......... which is right next to Beginning-O's Bunny Farm.

But it turned out that Turdo got it wrong, just as Turdo is to Turbo, so Bieber is to Beaver.

That woke up Robin of Locksly with a start "Did someone mention beaver?" he aksed while scenting the air with his oil glands, but then Jackie Chan jumped into the Never Ending Stoly and said "What sorcely is this ........

Thanks Mike.

I doubt that it was Lindsay Fox flying over his race circuit, so whoever the pilot was, he/she was definitely not landing or taking-off, certainly below 300 ft, a dickhead ................. or unlicensed, or both.

Regards Geoff

Elvis, and that is another story for the NES when Een meets the royalty requirements.............

....... but here is a little tit-bit of what might come out if Eeeeen pays up.

Below is Tink in his "heavy years", taken in a park in Parkes last Aussie Day, and those tit-bits are more than little bits of tit too, however I am sure that you will agree that thru the use of 2 kgs of makeup and 18 horses tails, Turdy has transformed himself from Julian, as shown in post #8673, to have a remarkable resemblance to ....................

Does anyone know who was the dill in the Aerochute that tracked down the straight at Phillip Island at approx. 150 ft (well below the top of the communication tower that is just west of the straight) while the bike races were on mid-morning on Jan 26th.

Mainly white chute with red panels on each end and a dark colour between the red and white on both ends.

He/she tracked in from the north, made a "run" down the straight (actually more like an enebriated "wander" down the straight) then made a pretty rough U-turn over the camping area then departed to the north.

This idiot wasn't much of a pilot as they we up and down/side to side and all over the shop ....... but low.

Or are aerochutes permitted to be below 500 ft while being a poser to a crowd?

..... pink Glocks (special production for Turdy) in their sequined handbags, because Turdy in the deep south and in bright pink is the spit of Julian Clary (see 2 little picys below) when he was in his prime (that's Julian in his prime, not Turdy, as I don't think that Tink has ever really been in what could fairly described as his "prime", or anyone elses "prime", except for .............

All made up and somewhere to go: Turbo, the Moorabbin Stud & Possum fancier.

....... the Cash-less society, and.......

........ that is a particularly cruel way for the Cash family to learn about Johnny's passing, but continues the TubbyPlonker's disdain for .............