How to land a plane on a train.

[flying dog]

 

[facthunter]

Terribly risky. Nev

[skippydiesel]

More like a touch-and-go than a full on landing.

 

Having said that I can't help but admire the skill of the pilot, while also being disgusted at the undoubtable high cost of such a meaningless challenge/achievement.😈

[facthunter]

It's worth disgusting, though . Nev

[facthunter]

Why do people climb Mt Everest?. That costs Plenty.  nev

[red750]

Not unlike this at Avalon 2011.

 

[facthunter]

 Slower and less turbulence there. Nothing in front of the landing platform. Nev

[facthunter]

What type of plane is it?. Nev

[red750]

1941 Interstate S-1A-65F Cadet

[IBob]

There was an old (silent, I think) movie where someone climbed down a rope ladder from an aircraft onto the roof of a moving train. As I recall, they killed 2 stuntmen before the third managed it.
I think part of the problem in that case was the pilot couldn't see what was going on with the man swinging on the ladder below and behind him.

Edited 10 hours ago by IBob

[onetrack]

One has to ask the obvious question - Why? If it was training for a critical rescue mission, I could understand it, but doing it just to show off, seems like an inordinate waste of money, and a risk to lives and expensive machines.

[IBob]

Why? Presumably it sells Red Bull by keeping the brand highly visible with dangerous/edgy/exciting/dramatic stunts.

[johnm]

the landing strip is at carriage 9

 

I can't see any reson why some live music - quartet / orchestral perjhaps folk - could not be undertaken at carriage 3 or 4 - maybe also deancing bears at carriage 5

 

it would be just as relevant   

[facthunter]

Witha Moving Platform and at a faster speed there is considerable turbulence  for you to attempt a landing , generated from the Carriages and engine in front of it. As well as a core which travels with  the train as a sudden drop in headwind just when you don't want it with turbulence in the windshear which always happens in those situations.  I would NOT even attempt   it. With a Platform on a truck and Much slower speed involved. Maybe. Cleaner Air.  Nev

[IBob]

29 minutes ago, johnm said:

the landing strip is at carriage 9

 

I can't see any reson why some live music - quartet / orchestral perjhaps folk - could not be undertaken at carriage 3 or 4 - maybe also deancing bears at carriage 5

 

it would be just as relevant   

You missed out the pole dancing???

[facthunter]

Isn't this the Place where serious discussion is Done?  Nev

[johnm]

not taking anything away from the skill of the flying - a demonstration of skill ? .......... and no offense to the poster

 

but ............ a lot of this stuff on UTube (or whatever) is contrived - at 0.37 the pilot has paper, a pen and a tape measure ................ no less ................ a mathematical calculation to determine (please fill in blanks)

 

 

 

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[facthunter]

There's enough in that video to be able to think about the Main Issues. It's STILL too risky.  The risk is not contrived.  That's a Seriously dangerous thing to attempt. Nev

[Thruster88]

I seriously believe i could do this in my thruster easily. The thruster has excellent forward visibility, it would be at high cruise speed so very good control ability. A simple wheel landing. The train "containers"  have open ends so the turbulence may not be that bad. 

[Blueadventures]

Looks like pilot overshot his roll, needed to brake a bit, then nicked off quick. Nice kiss the rubber and off.

[facthunter]

I reckon you (or anyone) would prang the Thruster. I think you are underestimating the difficulties and you Might Need a bit More Power quickly than you have spare.. Nev

[Thruster88]

1 minute ago, facthunter said:

I reckon you (or anyone) would prang the Thruster. I think you are underestimating the difficulties and you Might Need a bit More Power quickly than you have spare.. Nev

We would always have the option of bugging out with a light pull on the stick, no increase in power required. 

[facthunter]

Yes I suppose so but the turbulence is an unknown quantity. Lots of adverse Aileron effect in a Thruster but the rudder and elevators would still work with Power on. Once in a DH 82 I got stuck airborne with very high winds at Rutherford (West Maitland) and had to wait till 2 heavy People were able to hold the Wings with the wheels in contact with the ground and then I reduced the Power.  Nev

[Thruster88]

Yes the thruster has lots of adverse yaw, the RV6 has zero, we pilots very quickly get used to these differences and don't even have to thick about them. That has been my experience. 

 

Having watched many road trains travel at speed on dusty farm roads the turbulence doesn't seem that bad.

[facthunter]

"WE Pilots" is Not a constant. How Many Pilots do a sideslip correctly? Be on a Motor bike when a road train Passes you or stand / Park Near the side of the road and feel the Wind force.   Some pilots think the rudder pedals are for taxiing or resting your Feet on. Nev