Captain

.............. so Geoff from Mildewraa has confirmed the existance of both SwashbucklingPete & STOLPete, and all is now well in the N.E.S.

So back to BronnyBigJobs, and the RiverlandSwami in a seethru silk thong with gold thread.

But hang on!

Could Geoff from the Riverland actually also be BigPete from the Riverland?

They both have a J160 and both stick up for each other, and both appear to be really erudite & nice blokes ... so it looks sussss.

Ian/Slarti - please check their itp's or iud's & sperm-count or whatever it is you check when people try to masquerade in the forum as somebody that they aren't, and help me expose BigPete for what he really is.

But I reckon that that's it. The riddle has been pretty well solved. BigGeoff is actually storytellerPete, and littleCharlie is PoppyGeoff's grandson, while LittlePete gets played with by GrandePiere on a regular basis.

And so with GreatbigGeoff going to Melbourne with Pete's missus on the 19th, SneakawayPete will be able to actually come to the SAAA do in Cowra with the rest of us, and bring the Riverland girl along for a weekend with the boyz.

Phew .... glad that's over.

............. so the question again needs to be asked - HAS ANYONE EVER ACTUALLY SEEN BIGPETE? 

 

(I know that Ian claims to have seen him at the last Natfly, but that is not a reliable sighting as Ian was off the fags at the time, so durry-less state was seeing PinkElephants .... as well as BigPetes)

"So" said the Craptian. "Not one single forum member has replied to confirm that GrandePierre really exists ...... NOT ONE ..... and not even his so-called mate Geoff1 in Mildewra has replied".

"And it looks like he thinks that a lengthy post about derring-doo, and cute little kiddies with buckets, will deflect our quest to know more about apparentlynonexistentPete".

"He thinks verbosity is a substitute for voracity" said the Skipper "But it was a good story that might also give that dopey Qld reporter more to write articles about old pharts being brave in little planes".

"And I notice that LargePedro deliberately omitted the rego numbers from his photos of the Jabi-Roo, so instead of asking whether anyone has ever actually seen humungousPete, I will subtly change the question to read DOES ANYONE KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THE BRAVE CROPPY PILOT WHO MASQUERADES AS GRANDEPIERRE?

PS ......... bloody entertaining report that, nobellauriatePete. I lifted up in my seat as you went back over the fence. Thanks 4 a good read.

Mick

It's a month earlier this year & at the moment there are no flies here, so looks good.

Tried to have a chat last year and every time I came over you had somebody interested. Will try again this time.

Regards Geoff

Dear CrappyCaptian ....It is with deep regret .....Now I forget what I was going to say

So Ian, based on your last post are we to assume you are off the fags again at the moment?

The NicabateCraptian (& I did mean Nica.........)

PS And having reread you post, I note that even you are denying any knowledge of any one or any thing remotely resembling a "BigPete" .............. and I'm not going to embarrass you further by asking if you have ever seen his "LittlePete".

Methinks that posts 328 - 332 have raised the following questions that need answering before the N.E.S proceeds further"

1 It is noted that BigPete cannot make it to either Goulburn or Cowra and quoted some lame excuse (which didn't involve a LAME) about having to go to Melbourne............. so the question again needs to be asked - HAS ANYONE EVER ACTUALLY SEEN BIGPETE?

(I know that Ian claims to have seen him at the last Natfly, but that is not a reliable sighting as Ian was off the fags at the time, so he was agro and in his durry-less state was seeing PinkElephants .... as well as BigPetes)

2 Is LittlePete actually BigPete's grandson, or is LittlePete really just the thing that we all thought of first when he initially mentioned it?

3 Is the Riverland girls dowry goat a virgin?

4 What is the Flyer's history that has triggered his obsession with the Swami and with Bronny, ................. and did it feel nice at the time?

5 How could BigPete possibly ignore Planey's invitation to go to Goulburn (see Q 1 above)?

6 How come F.Puk is constantly being drawn into the sexual inuendo of the NES, and is this just a vain attempt at respectability by those contributors?

7 Why doesn't SlartiHotPants write in more ... or is he just too busy banning forum members to be a part of this litereray masterpiss?

Please clarify the above before proceeding further.

The CrappyCaptian

That clashes with the SAAA Annual Convention in Cowra, which is strange.

Or is it?

HeartbrokenPete will not be able to make either the Cowra or Goulburn happenings as his "youbloodybettertakemetoMelbournetoseemygrandkidsorelseOtherhalf" calmly request his presence at some very special family gatherings.

.................... and verily it came to pass that all members of the forum slowly (for some are thick {while others are just mildly rotund}) realized that they all had a "youbloodybettertakemetosomewheretoseemygrandkidsorelseOtherhalf".

"I wonder if they could possibly all be the same "youbloodybettertakemetoMelbournetoseemygrandkidsorelseOtherhalf" who is moving around the forum members in some form of perverse roster system ..... and pleasuring them all ..... very often" said the Skipper. (Except for Slartihotpants who has had a few and mathematically broken the daisy chain {but none were called Daisy}).

"I know how to test this" said statisticallycorrectPete "I'll set up a spreadsheet with real-time capabilities and all members can log in the location and timing of their "youbloodybettertakemetoMelbournetoseemygrandkidsorelseOtherhalf"

"Mine's not here at the moment" advised the crappyCaptian.

"That's weird, neither is mine" said freeasabirdPete

"We'll fit her with a GPS tracking system the next time she calls in at my joint for some pleasure" said the technicallycompetentFlyer. "That way we'll be able to track her and see if she runs further than Buddy Franklin (or gets out of position)".

And it turned out that it was the same woman masquerading as 6 or 7 "youbloodybettertakemetoMelbournetoseemygrandkidsorelseOtherhalf's" and having her way with all forum members as she rotated.

"I don't believe it" said feelingviolatedPete, and I was going to take her to Melbourne instead of Cowra. "I'll go and give her a piece of my mind right now" ....................

Good an ya Keith.

You will always remember that 1st solo, and it just gets better from here on.

How good is that?

So Sept 2nd saw a fren of frenettic activity on the NES, with AdministratorIan, and AssistantAdministratorSlartiHotPants all kicking into gear, and pomwhopayshisownwayandmakesconvictarrowjokesPlaney, thecrappycaptianoneguninhisholsterHauptman, slightlywanxxxxxxx, theknealingStorch, BiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigPete and thethongwearingmelongrowingRiverlandGirl (and her brothertheWalloper), all contributing.

Not to mention the Flyer ....... (I said not to mention him).

"But where are the contributions from the other 2,500 forum members" said forumowner&directoratthenextraaelectionIB?

"Who gives a rats" said callousPete. "They are all ............................

Nice, factual and sensitive report Tony. Thanks very much for posting it.

from this black-bearded "Bobby"

Welcome back planey, however if the above means that you are a pom "Then we all take all the nice words back" said fiercelycolonialPete, (and particularly if you still have a UK passport).

Fair go Pete. That's not nice or PC or suitable for a public forum like this (ban him please Ian ...... if you can find the bastard).

"He's just joking, Planey" said the Hauptman, so don't slash 'em yet, and don't ban yourself again.

Then SlartiHotPlate piped up again " ..................................

It is now only a couple of weeks to the SAAA Convention on Sept 19 - 21 (2008) and the SAAA website http://www.saaa.com lists some interesting forums and program, including a Jabiru engine maintenance forum.

I am going. Is anyone else planning on making the trip?

Regards Geoff

So draughtbreakerPete decided to organise another fly-in

"We have plenty of beer in kegs" said one of the locals "So don't you worry about that". "What we need is to have the "drought" broken, or for you guys to be a bit more careful with your typing".

"Do you remember savs?" said sentimentallyreflectivePete.

"Do I ever" said the Hauptman "And from back when I remember them, 1/6 would have bought the sav AND the riverland girl (& some change)"

"You couldn't boil them up like that now in somebody's copper (just after they had washed their undies)" said publichealthPete, but I don't remember anybody getting crook ..... and the savs tasted great.

"I wonder if we have upset or alienated SlartiHotPlate?" thought concernedforhismatePete

Then came Slarti's reply ".....................

(fairsuckofthesavCaptain)

Are you predicting that SlartiHotPlate is gunna have genuine saveloys at the Goulburn barby this weekend, propheticPete, and that they'll be fairly priced?

(Nice to see you back paley)

SlartiHotPlate can cook the barby (in his dirt eating cheata ) and Bendova (from NoHopeTown) could organise the parking.

"Good idea" said the Craptian to didn'tusehisspellcheckPete. "I see that SlartiHotPlate is doing his thing at the SavetheGoulburnAirportBBQthingy this very next weekend and that offers the added advantage in that we can go there, inhale his sausage sangers and rubbish SlartiHotPlate to his face about his little woopsie (and his incident in the big pussy)"

"Or we can all rock up at the SAAAAAAAAA annual thingy in Cowra and take over their event .... or the BigPete that none-of-us-have-ever-seen will assist our leader to run another RecFlyingFlyIn at Echuca".

"Which will it be said the bloke with 4 bars?"

largePedro thought for a while and responded with alacrity "...................................

that mind off storchy seems to run amock

Which just means that storchy fits in well with the other drop-kicks that have been contributing to the N.E.S. recently (planedriver excepted, because he is a nice bloke and we want him to come back into the fold).

"I know" said storchy. "I'll take a photo from my synthesis so that the leaves stay green and the riverland girl's melons continue to bloom"

"I'll then get in touch with friarpuk so that my mind can run a monk instead of being in the muck"

"I need some of that muck for my melons" said that riverland lass, "And can any of you guys assist me to put this thong on? (because the top bit that goes over her foot had come out of that flip-flop bit at the bottom)"

"I will" said GrandePierre.

"If you are really french" said the riverland girl "Am I to assume that you are a Ben-a-dick-teen?"

"No" said sucksPete "I am a kiwi and we call 'em jandals over here because ................

......... so the plainderiver took a leaf out of selfabusePete's book and banned himself from the N.E.S.

"Not my fault" said the bloke with the 4 bars, I've been away from my 'puter and working.

"Don't do it" said Neilly Storch ... but we don't know whether he is of the Schlepcev variety or the Fly Synthesis one, so we are not yet sure of his motivation.

"Don't worry" said uncaringPete. That gives more forum space for me and the Skipper.

"Plane must be dutch" said the Craptian, for his last name is "de River", or is he perhaps a south efrikan boar?

"Don't call him a bore" said can'tspell&notworldlywisePete. "That's what he has spitted the dummy about and banned himself"

"At least when P de River wrote that he was leaving this thread, neill wrote in to talk him into cuming back. When I banned myself, nobody cared" said meloncollyPete.

"Always promoting the riverland" said the Craptian.

"What's the go here, Ian?". You have a rule about no advertising, and then promotionalPete is talking up the riverland melons and cauli's.

Not to mention the riverland girl's melons, which she grows in a small alotment next to her brother's police station.

So the de River family .................................

PS/Edit .... Plane - don't worry about uncaringPete because he doesn't give a rats about anyone other than selfobsessedPete. Why else would he leave me standing like a lilly on a dirt tin at Echuca airport, with nobody to talk to .... and then call my 230 (after 2 years of hard work) a "plastic parrot". He's just a-holePete and is not worth banning yourself over.

Say something nice to our dutch/seth aafriken maate, recoverthepositionPete.

Thanks Bubba. And what do you carry that in the back of?

Regards Geoff

Further to my last note there is an ATSB article on Carb Icing at http://www.atsb.gov.au/aviation/editorials/e00016.aspx

And I now see that the same graph is on the RAA website.

Note the temps and humidity where they classify Icing at any throttle setting.

And their graph is below, which is similar to the one I have seen previously: ... bugger. Can't get it to load as it is too big. Can anyone else attached it here at slightly reduced definition.

There is also an Aircraft Icing Handbook at http://www.caa.govt.nz/safety_info/GAPs/Aircraft_Icing_Handbook.pdf which covers induction icing between pages 21 - 27

But out of interest, could I ask for members to post their tug cost for a launch to 2000 feet, just for interest / comparision around the country.Also could I ask for cost per minute of the glider.

The Glider is mine, but others are on Sport Aviation's website. Great place to fly.

Hi Geoff, The temps for carb ice,are you seeing them on the ground while taxiing or when you are at cruise ?

Not so much at cruise at 2850 or so, but have seen it a few times on descent around misty wispy cloud and when above the 2000 rpm which was the rule of thumb where I used to automatically use the carb heat before having the sensor.

I have read an article somewhere .... think it was by Cessna, which talks about ice forming in carbys when carb temp is showing 4C or so. I'll see if I can locate that.

As per my previous post, I was surprised how often it shows 0C or less than 4C at partial throttle settings. Also, see the panel reading that I recently posted in J230 @ YSWG which shows a carb temp of 3C at 2900 rpm at about 7000 ft and above patchy cloud with an OAT of 11C, so it can get down there, even at cruise.

I have a carb temp probe on my 3300 and it is fascinating to watch how often the temps get to carb icing levels ...... sometimes when you least expect it.

As a result of watching it I now find I use carb heat more than I used to and for a little longer than I used to.

Ian

Those prices are around what is being asked for a top class german sailplane and are therefore not totally unexpected for top quality production in carbon fibre, but it will need to be of sailplane quality to be remotely justifiable.

In an ASG29 or my ASW28 you also get world's best performance and glide ratio etc in a beautifully & faultlessly made machine. An ASG29 factory demonstrator sold in recent weeks in OZ for ?? (bugger ... can't find it at the moment).

That pricing will certainly limit the market here, but if 175 knots is really achievable with the other performance figures previously given then there might be a couple of blokes who might want such a machine ............. but geeez that is stretching the friendship at this "affordable" end of the aviation market when a new RV7 or 8 would be so much less, even with a new engine.

Hope this helps, but is no more than you already know, I am sure.

Geoff

I carry an electric folding bike in the back of my aeroplane.

Phil

The points you make in para 3 of post #7 are relevant and correct however your example in paras 1 & 2 is close to a worst case scenario.

If the inversion was that bad and there was no lift, then it was a waste of time going up to "soar" and was more an enjoyment flight that you would have suspected before you made the commitment to launch.

On the other hand (& admittedly during a Riverina summer) I have had 8 or 9 hours cross-country for a single launch of $45.00, and that needs to be taken into account when considering the +'s & -'s of sailplanes.

And in my view there are few thrills like turning your back on your launch point and heading off on a long cross-country flight. Then a few hours later being 200 - 300 kms or more away from home and relying on your thermaling ability to get back. Or the thrill of getting your final glide home at the end of a long day with the sun going down and the Cu's dieing ............... (or the thrill of being able to have a leak after landing following 8 hours in the cockpit).

Regards Geoff