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Yes, it looks like 7 registered, 3 pending, 1 cancelled and 2 never registered. The last application was just in the last month - so it seems our RAAus IP advisers consider this exercise to be a worthwhile plan for the future.Bull, I guess you're one of the fortunate few who never makes mistakes, or who corrects them before anyone ever notices. I, for one, give credit to RAAus for responding to criticism quickly and appropriately, hopefully they are also in damage control behind the scenes.

 

So - whilst my first reaction certainly was 'heads must roll' - on further reflection I wondered what it might cost in money and lost time if they sack the one who made this mistake and have to train someone new into the position. Not to mention the compensation for unfair dismissal, because a single mistake is not sufficient cause for dismissal ...

But the point is this was NOT a 'mistake',,,it was planned thought through and executed ,,,so all this talk of a 'mistake is covering someones arse...…………...

 

 

Well, I couldn't find any means on the ipaustralia site to cancel an already approved Trademark, however I'm humbled indeed, there must be ...Here is a link to the cancelled trademark.

 

And here is a screenshot of it -

 

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I think we'd probably all agree that we all make mistakes at work sometimes and most of us don't have to repay the direct cost of those mishaps. Those of us who are self employed need Professional Indemnity insurance just in case. In the scheme of it $500 is a mere bagatelle, probably the waste of admin time is more of a concern considering that regos and processing times from the RAA online store are still an embarrassment, let alone the time it sometimes takes to process specific operational or tech enquiries.

 

Anyway, I'm sure it'll be a lesson learned.

 

And - as for those who still refer to themselves as shareholders of this 'organisation' - anyone got a share certificate to prove it? We're no longer anything more than clients methinks. Perhaps that's necessary though, I really don't know either way, but I'd hate to be trying to run an organisation like this with more than 10,000 interested parties all hell-bent on criticising every move. If they answer every question on every issue whenever they frequently pop up (employment of a Tech Manager is a current case in point), then there'd be no time to get anything meaningful done.

But this issue go,s beyond a simple ""mistake'' this was planned thought out and executed and got thrown back in the face of the exec,s by a member backlash and those responsible have now back pedalled and tried to cover their tracks with bullshit statements like,, for the betterment of all aviation ,,,what a crock , someone needs to be sacked......

 

 

Get over it fellas.RAA never asked for royalties. And they made that clear from the start.

And they have (after all this mudslinging) withdrawn the application so if someone else really want to own the phrase, they can apply for it.

But the BIG question still remains,,,,,,,WHY did they do it in the first place ,and WHO did it???

 

 

The directors of a company limited by guarantee are more accountable in law than the officers of an association. I have been both.

SO, whats your point ? just because they are more accountable according to you , this still do,s not stop them doing what they please...……...as members[shareholders] cant stop themor hold them to account.

 

 

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As they say - "There's more than one way to skin a cat" Cheers

Maybe a friendly petition by members to back and support the ELAA formation to CASA and the regulaters might speed up the eventual formation of another body that would allow us to fly without empire building as RAA is going...or a public open member survey voicing our disgust at the takeover of an organisation that was formed in the first place for the enjoyment of flight at a real world cost without the added powerdreams of 2 repeat 2 individuals with a hidden agenda!!!!!

 

 

By having it trade marked, the phrase has lost its essence, or whatever you want to call it, now. RAAus management have already used the phrase to promote themselves and a flying school close to their heart, and possibly wallet, on a Facebook post.

So NON profit flying school ah , cool must be cheap

 

 

Why does the AOPA object? They can use it for nothing, can't they?

But flying schools can,t,and will only addmore fees, even to raa members if they teach and have a little school with only one plane and more costs and more costs , so it then goes down the chain , as in , more fees for students ,students stop flying because it,s too expensive,,flying school closes because of costs etc so students then will have to travel further to train adding even more costs...………………….RAA has killed itself...………..So to use the freedom to fly in some advertising as in :Now is the time to experience the "freedom to fly 'call Joes flying school 555335533324433...……………….etc etc etc ,,,every one who earns a living from that school as it is a for profit school , and they have only said ''nonprofit''', slimy shitheads from monke down...……….

 

 

Any comment from RAA?????...………………………...

 

 

This was a Caribou/Buffulo after extensive restoration and was first flight after restoration, end result was control locks left on ………...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH5hs0B5Oks

 

 

Which begs the question: What advantage does your typical semi driver get by sitting 0.75m from the asre end of the car in front on the F3 at 110kph???

Stress relief,lol

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G,day Cobalt,looking after the old GT I see lol

Yeah I still can’t come to that conclusion.I can when they are suffering some serious damage

Agree, ie serious crash ,injuries/undrivable,,,,,,,stack, fender bender,broken lights etc with maybe road rage lol

Media reports that three local schools were nearly hit by the wildly veering aircraft...

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You forgot about the terrified residents in the nearby housing estate who thought the screaming propeller was going to come join them in the bedroom too.

RIP the loss of another fellow aviator, affects us all ,,,,condolences to all the family..............

 

 

Arrgh! that's right! all the local talent is gone.However, if enough people want to, it really is possible to unscramble an egg.

Or do what Monk and co are doing and add some spring onions and parsley and call it a,,'gourmet omelete,,,, to add to your latte as you sit on the porch of your north shore condo..........................

Well just go along to your regional board manager and get him to stop it.

Sorry mate you really are behind the times now ah,,,don,t you remember that RAA decided that we don't need 'regional board members any more, and gave the board member jobs to their mates,ie no Nth Qld reps anymore

If anyone had problems with CAO95.10, it's a CASA regulation so your objections and submissions should have gone to CASA.RAA Ltd may have made comments or submissions, but I didn't see any.

Sorry Turby , but it was definetly RAA that has brought on the new requirements for build photos and approvals etc not CASA as RAA are trying to look like they have grown up and can manage the quasi GA aircraft that now dominate a '''SPORT'''regime originally designed and created for the affordable easy, and sporting side of aviation ,,not like now with all just using the freedoms created for such to go from Melbourne to Sydney or Canberra etc as fast and as comfortable as they can '[re, what GA is for].......................Would make my old man turn in his grave to see the AUF destroyed in the way it is now ,,,very sad.............................

You sound like a bloke who has been talking to one too many insurance salesman

I can sell you a really nice island ,if you want one ,,just outside of Cannonvale in the Whitsundays mate , she,s a beauty close to Airlie beach and great views, only 200000 bloody cheap ......................

You haven’t been able to do things at your own risk for several decades now; probably never caught up with that. I haven’t looked at 95.10, but anyone was free to make submissions prior to the close off time, and that includes RAA. New legislation frequently has mistakes, and if you say nothing it just becomes concrete. I can remember plenty of criticism on this forum, but were those criticisms ever turned into submissions?

Yes submissions where submitted, but ignored by the desk bound power hungry ''safety advisors'' and the new ''do as I say leaders in raa............

That's the way it used to be in the 1920s, and the problem was not solved. People sold shoddy machinery including aircraft and took people for rides on a "caveat emptor" basis.Now there are guidelines.However, falling out of trees doesn't have much to do with building your own aircraft; there are a few issues with being qualified to use some tools, but mostly it's a matter of checking the build to ensure that you comply with the build instructions. I don't think the checking regime and test flying has altered much in the last 20 years.

 

One issue has been that people are taking on GA type aircraft as projects, and that probably should be left to SAAA members.

Have you read the new tech manual on 95.10 contruction processes and required material now,,,you used to be able to design build and fly your own creation "at your own risk , it,s your <mod censored> in that plane so you make sure you do it right' ,,now they are standing over your shoulder telling you how to do things they themselves have never done nor are qualified too dictate. So you are a little behind the times turbo when it comes to red tape and requirements for building a 95.10 aircraft.........

The only thing rec aviation has an advantage in ............. compared to other flying ....... is simplicity and ease of regulation (some might scoff at all that)If you got a car license you are medically OK to do some cheap ? Flying

Gliding maybe also ..........

 

I can't think of anything better to promote the sport than that

 

Maybe we are in a doldrum cycle - we just need another good old fashioned economic boom (theres always one of those just around the corner !)

CHEAP??? you are joking of course

Ha ha, I know that hangar and that guy in it.....we Drifter together sometimes.

Yeahe signed me off for my raa certificate after I brought the gt500

Hey Bull. If you have any more videos please up load them to Youtube. They are great.

scott evans

 

Just the sort of machine that I reckon will fit my future flying plans. Were any of these aircraft offered as plans and homebuilt?

I have a disassembled but complete mk2 with robin 440 and sweetapple prop that was stored in 1986 and has been kept in a shed so skins are still in good condition and all wires and bolts and control assemblies are kept in a lockable tin box ,,can be yours for the very reasonable price of 1k