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Ross, you know my feelings by our phone call but just wanted to mention in the last photo you have there you can see the sock just about horizontal.

I am coming up to Canberra tomorrow coming back on Wed so if there is anything you need from down here to bring up then let me know.

Whats Going On?We had a pilot on his second solo navex (Albury - Deniliquin - Echuca - Shepparton - Albury) call up on our CTAF, saying he was over a lake and was lost. We could tell he was quite agitated.

 

(This was last Friday Week 25/07/08) Cliff banks our CFI, who was out with a student asked a few good questions and soon realized he was over Kow Swamp and guided him to Echuca.

 

To say the pilot was relieved to be on the ground is an understatement. He was very, very thankful. After a cup of coffee we settled down and reviewed his flight plan. He was using WAC charts, and you have to fold and join them to see our little corner of the world.

 

Everything was correct EXCEPT the map alignment. He followed his bearings correctly, but unfortunately the Deniliquin to Echuca leg was way off. He finished up exactly where the wrong heading would take him - Kow swamp.

 

My question is - wouldn't his instructor have reviewed his navigation? Checked his paperwork? Before he departed?

 

regards

But, we've missed one important factor..Cloud. The first/last light publicised doesn't take tat into account.. On overcast days the light dissapates much earlier then quoted.. Its not uncommon to see it black just after sunset or even before..Just something to bear in mind..cheers

Andy, the hand grenade thrower was issued with a warning PM - like this and so much more things happen behind the scenes that provide the complete picture. This complete picture is why the suspensions were issued. Since then other things have happened and J430's ban has been increased to permanent - as I said, so much happens behind the scenes that takes up so much of our time and why I sometimes get a bit frazzled in my own posts because you just at times get so sick of the children playing games that you often ask yourself is it really worth it?

AUFChat couldn't handle it so they closed.

Pprune doesn't even try so they have a cesspit

Other aviation forums have tried different ways but they only have very small amount of users that they can control

Recreational Flying believes in providing you, and with what ever it takes, a valuable resource to help all so we just keep on busting our gut - decent people know and appreciate that which is why we do it but those that don't appreciate it I don't think deserve to benefit from this resource at all.

Just my way of thinking...now on with developing Version 4 of the forums - its theme: "One recreational flying Australia"

May I suggest that if the thread has deteriorated to such an extent that it has become an off topic slanging match, that the offending posts are moved to a virtual sandbox and let them/us have at it. It appears that some of the issues will continue to resurface until at least some blood has been spilled. Or at the very least, posters re read and question their motives for making their post before hitting the submit button.Steven B

 

(standing by and awaiting wet fish)

This creates work and I have, on occasions, received PMs saying that the point being made in the following post no longer made sense to the writer - more communication - more work. deleting a post also doesn't stop any one as all they do is post again with a complaint that they have been hard done by and with no one else seeing the post that was deleted makes the moderators look like a nasty lot of characters.

As you say "until at least some blood has been spilled" - banning a person IS spilling blood and the two people who have just been suspended (to the sin bin for a while) have been suspended before so these people are just not learning.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't - the end point is there is always Pprune and like it is often said about your RAAus Pilot Certificate:

Flying is a privilege not a right

The same goes for these forums! :big_grin: (said nicely)

So why don't we just have fun here, help each other and obey the rules of the sandpit - and go flying :thumb_up: - or have I missed the point of this great privately funded and managed resource that has been made free and available for all recreational pilots to enjoy ;)

J430 - a 1 week suspension

Thread will remain closed.

HPD is given a 2 week suspension to cool off for not only comments made in this thread but in other threads as well that is of an antagonising and unfriendly manner.

Again, damned if I do and damned if I don't and still practising :big_grin:

This is an interesting thread and had it not been for that interest it would have been deleted and warnings etc given for its unfriendliness that is not acceptable here - there is a way to say things and a way not to.

We also will not accept one forum member antagonising or bad mouthing another one - we all have different opinions, there is an appropriate way to say your opinion and an appropriate way to disagree but this thread started off the wrong way which is an invitation to be given time in the sin bin by way of suspension - the same goes for responses.

However, as I said this is an interesting subject so a warning - discuss it but please do so appropriately.

The Oshkosh radio is up and running in the Radio and TV section - accessed by clicking the Fun on the forum menu bar here - enjoy

Carl, not sure if this guy is of any help but I have always used Glenn Turner to insure my CTs and Gazelle - he advertises in the mag and I believe he also handles all the RAAus insurance that goes with our RAAus certificate renewals - his number is 08 8281-2255.

If that helps!

Thread Closed until I can work out what to do with the unfriendliness that seems to have happened over night.

I think a pertinent point that has been lost in the quick knee jerk reaction is:

(particularly gliding and hang-gliding)

Careful Guys :big_grin: - it's all fun here!

here is a video of arriving at Oshkosh

I will be adding the Oshkosh radio to the Radio & TV section of the site as soon as they start broadcasting for all to listen to whilst browsing the forums.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid626910413/bclid1369819620/bctid1691838037

Cool, love the invisible driver as well. :hittinghead:

and the methane gas detecter screaming it's head-off all the way, the approach call came crackling through the radio something like --------Eeeeeeeechuka baaaaaaase.This eeeeere is biiiiigPete aaaaaaaaand the boys on finals. Be with yerrrrs soooooooon an Saaave a praaaaayer or two for us, as the stench in eeeer is sumtin terrrrrrrible:sad: because of mee favourite Baaaaasil ooooze sittin on me lap.............

Just a note that the 2008 version of the VFG is out and current.

I always believed it to be 500ft and 1,000ft AGL

Dog lick costs leg, toes, fingers

Posted 1 hour 54 minutes ago

Updated 1 hour 40 minutes ago

A warning that dog licks may not be harmless (file photo)

A woman is rebuilding her life from losing all her toes, fingers and a leg after being licked by a dog.

Julie McKenna from Mildura in Victoria was rushed to the Royal Adelaide Hospital last year after her small terrier licked a superficial burn on her left foot.

It sent her into septic shock, weeks later.

While the former nurse says her case is rare, she thinks people need to be careful around dogs and cats, especially where there is broken skin.

"I mean you see dogs licking kids on the face and things like that, I mean it's just one of those million-in-one chances, it's like the bird flu, you know, how did it hop from bird to human?" she said.

"Definitely changed my life, it's changed my life in every aspect, having no fingers and no, well amputated leg and half a foot, it's everything, you have to think twice about how to do things."

Burns specialist Dr John Greenwood says pet owners need to be careful.

"Dog bites, dog licks, they're never benign, they're always potentially horrendously infective."

Now back to the never ending story...

(read while singing with Julie ) When a dog bites, when a dog licks...

they're never benign, they're always potentially horrendously infective...

I simply remember my favourite things and then I don't feel sooooooooo Baaaaaaaaad

but we're in waikato new zealand..

This might sound stupid but could you excavate a track for the difference to give you the clearance

Another laser flight incident under investigation

Posted 1 hour 30 minutes ago

Updated 1 hour 26 minutes ago

Qantas Perth-Adelaide flight ... laser scare

• Audio: Peter Gibson of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority tells Matt Smith of the danger posed by lasers. (ABC News)
   
   
  

Police are investigating another case of a laser light being shone at an aircraft.

They say it involved a Qantas flight arriving in Adelaide from Perth at about 10:00pm ACST yesterday.

South Australian police say the light came from the area of Mount Crawford forest, just north-east of Adelaide.

Peter Gibson of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority says police have been using tougher laws in many states to deal with offenders who shine the lights toward the cockpits of aircraft.

"It's an incredibly irresponsible and silly thing to do - thankfully a number of people have now been caught around the country for doing this," he said.

"A number have been sent to jail and, if people keep doing it, more people will end up before the courts."

A job for Ian maybe to see if the RAAus can find a third party cover for the Pax instead of the cow.

ozzie

Take her to Warp Factor 5 Scotty - but Cap't she won't take it

Now back on track - A bit cryptic...

Ricky Ricardo

Ricardo Montalban (Mr Roarke in Fantasy Island)

RealPete (BigPete) flying his Jabiru with machine guns

Da plane...Da plane

Incidentally...

The line "I didn't shoot you really. I was looking for lunch (Chinese actually)"

- The complaints dept tank is chinese

- The complaints dept is only open at lunch time

- They take an hour for lunch