RAAus shuffling positions

[skippydiesel]

15 hours ago, turboplanner said:

The point of an Incorporated Association is to be driven by its members and react to things that matter to them.

Make your mind up.

 

Which is it a "Limited Company" that does nothing for its members OR an "Incorporated Association is to be driven by its members and react to things that matter to them."?????

 

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[skippydiesel]

5 hours ago, Reynard said:

 

As publically promoted, the core business of RAAus is to: 

• Provide Australians with a safe, accessible and cost effective form of aviation.

 

If you are specifically seeking advocacy, I think joining AOPA would be a better bet.

Thanks , I will look into AOPA.

 

If RAA us unwilling to advocate, to Government & QUANGO's, on our behalf, they are not meeting the first item of core business .

 

If they are not advocating at all, they are just O2 thieves.

 

I am unaware of any;

• Significant advocacy on our behalf ie if they are advocating they need give us "chapter & verse" and keep us informed of progress.
• Surveys  asking what our concerns' may be, such that RAA can pursue them with the authorities.

😈

 

[turboplanner]

7 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Make your mind up.

 

Which is it a "Limited Company" that does nothing for its members OR an "Incorporated Association is to be driven by its members and react to things that matter to them."?????

 

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1. I pointed out that what you want - "to vigorously represent" its (RAA Ltd's) membership is not the purpose of a Limited Company.

 

2. You asked "What's the point of RAA [Ltd]?"

     I should have said "RAA Ltd was a huge    mistake." which I said               many times back when members wanted to change "because we         are not a cricket club" or the famous "no point in having a dog and barking yourself."                                                                                            An Incorporated Association is what you are looking for. If others feel the same, then change RAA back to its roots as an Incorporated Association.          

Edited Tuesday at 04:26 PM by turboplanner

[skippydiesel]

Hi Turbs - 

 

"I think joining AOPA would be a better bet."

 

Not so sure that was good advice 

 

AOPA -  Australian Orthotic Prosthetic Assosiaton

 

Am I missing something here?

 

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[facthunter]

It would give you a leg to stand on, or you could RUN for Office.?   Nev

[Reynard]

https://aopa.com.au/

[facthunter]

Doesn't take much to find it, does it? it's the only mob that can have a go at CASA. etc.  Aircraft Owners and Pilot's Association.  RAAus is compromised. Nev

[turboplanner]

57 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Hi Turbs - 

 

"I think joining AOPA would be a better bet."

 

Not so sure that was good advice 

 

AOPA -  Australian Orthotic Prosthetic Assosiaton

 

Am I missing something here?

 

😈

 

 

 

You are; it was Reynard that told you that - Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association were good 30 years ago.                                                                                                                                                                                          

[skippydiesel]

14 minutes ago, turboplanner said:

You are; it was Reynard that told you that - Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association were good 30 years ago.                                                                                                                                                                                          

Just got off  the phone with one of their managemente team - Sounds to me like AOPA is still good today - I will be joining as soon as they fix their web site.😈

 

[Thruster88]

Have not anything from aussie aopa for a while now, their website seems like a ghost town.

[pmccarthy]

I have been a member several times but they never send renewal notices.

[skippydiesel]

I have signed up with AOPA - hope the have a bit more get up and go than RAA (wouldn't be hard)😈

[jackc]

36 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

I have signed up with AOPA - hope the have a bit more get up and go than RAA (wouldn't be hard)😈

Good luck, I had NONE4 years ago getting answers on some advice? 
I got bitten, never went back.  Back then, the WEB site was an unattended garbage dump? 

[skippydiesel]

1 hour ago, jackc said:

Good luck, I had NONE4 years ago getting answers on some advice? 
I got bitten, never went back.  Back then, the WEB site was an unattended garbage dump? 

Well I had a great chat with a very enthusiastic board member - we were/are very much on the same page visa v Landing Fees to be published in ERSA, Private pilots to no longer need to hold an ASIC, for access to most regional airfields and some degree of Standardisation in Landing Fees.

 

AOPA can not be worse than RAA when it comes to advocating on behalf of Private Pilots - I am happy to give them a go.

 

Contributors to this Forum need to realise that numbers count ie give weight to any person advocating on our behalf. If the prevailing apathy continues, we deserve what ever we get .

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[jackc]

29 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Well I had a great chat with a very enthusiastic board member - we were/are very much on the same page visa v Landing Fees to be published in ERSA, Private pilots to no longer need to hold an ASIC, for access to most regional airfields and some degree of Standardisation in Landing Fees.

 

AOPA can not be worse than RAA when it comes to advocating on behalf of Private Pilots - I am happy to give them a go.

 

Contributors to this Forum need to realise that numbers count ie give weight to any person advocating on our behalf. If the prevailing apathy continues, we deserve what ever we get .

😈

 

 

RAA are busy badgering CASA for MOSAIC, so the  whispers from the CASA basement say? 
Interesting that Group G has gone quiet? 

[skippydiesel]

37 minutes ago, jackc said:

RAA are busy badgering CASA for MOSAIC, so the  whispers from the CASA basement say? 
Interesting that Group G has gone quiet? 

Rumour has it, that RAA may be distracted by  greater problems than MOSAIC😈

Edited Thursday at 10:50 AM by skippydiesel

[turboplanner]

8 hours ago, jackc said:

RAA are busy badgering CASA for MOSAIC, so the  whispers from the CASA basement say? 
Interesting that Group G has gone quiet? 

Expected though. Those who want to fly cross country in difficult areas can get the training and qualifications - not that different from GGA where some just fly around the circuit and training area, others do the training.