Captain

So it now appears to be clear on the way that this is being spun by our fearless leaders.

Tizzard is only resigning because he wants to bounce his grandkids on his knee, he is staying on for another 6 weeks (what for, when 2 weeks of that are public holidays?), and probably departing with full entitlements and no blot on his record.

And Adam is to be the scapegoat/fall-guy, but will probably now extract a goodly sum through some wrongfull dismissal action (of which he may well be entitled ..... unless he has previously received an appropriate number of warning letters or unless he was still covered by some probabationary provisions in his employment arrangements).

Were all of the decisions that led to these departures taken by the full Board or have they been Executive decisions for subsequent Board ratification?

Does anyone else smell a rodent over in CanBloodyBerra or TownsBloodyVille?

PS ..... And now the Magazine is to be delayed because someone couldn't even send the required data to the Editor. That is both convenient to stop the discemination of data to the membership and/or it shows another failure of systems and procedures within RAA, which is stumbling from c*ck-up to c*ck-up ............ and still no audited Treasurer's Report or Minutes from the AGM. When does dysfunctionality become incompetence?

Andy

While your thread is mentioning "significant change", I would like to add one more issue for discussion here.

Based on what has previously been reported, it is reasonable to suspect that there has been, and still is, a culture of intimidation and possibly bullying that operates at the Executive and Board level of this organisation.

This was reported by Ian Baker when he was a Board Member and if I recall it correctly, pressure was applied to him on how to vote on some issues and he received the consequences of reporting to the members on some issues via this website. I also suspect that this treatment was continued when his membership rejoining application was initially refused.

Based on similar reports it might also be assumed that Carol Richards may have also been treated less than properly when she was a Member's Representative.

If I recall it correctly, something similar was also reported by Don Ramsey, which I think was quaintly described as "robust discussion" by the inflictor. I take it from that that he considered it normal and acceptable, which Don plainly did not.

I am now aware of another Board Member who has advised that he has been the recipient of something of like description.

It appears that some on the Board and Executive, and/or perhaps a "clique", take an "its our way or the highway" attitude to any Member's Representatives who does not toe their line, or has the temerity to question the way that the organisation is managed (so called).

If what has been reported is correct, I believe that this is counterproductive to the membership, destructive to the organisation, and if what has been reported by the above is correct it deserves attention and independent investigation.

Regards Geoff

PS ........... Still no Audited Accounts and still no Minutes from the AGM. When will the Treasurer and Secretary supply them or follow the CEO out the door? And even if those items are provided now, they are still ~ 3 & ~ 1 months late, respectively, in contravention of the Constitution, and those responsible should be sanctioned in the strongest possible terms ................ so based on this & the audit c*ckups, surely the Management & Executive are now officially dysfunctional.

And see how it is phrased below. Looks like he has done nothing wrong in his stellar career.

I guess this might be cheaper for the organisation, than the alternative, but is this the 1st stage of nobody being held properly accountable for the mess that the organisation, staff, Board and Executive have allowed themselves to get into?

And the way this is phrased it looks like he is about to be re-employed as a part time consultant to write up the stuff that he was supposed to write up while employed full time. If so, RAA really HAS become an extension of the public service.

Geeez Louise .................................

And still no Audited Accounts or Minutes from the AGM ....... that I can find on the website.

Members and friends

I have only had six jobs in my fifty year working life and it is now time for me to look at the more satisfying aspects of employment. To me that satisfaction comes from researching and writing up complex issues that every aviation organization is frequently required to do.

There is a crying need within RA-Aus for someone to write up much that has been on the back-burner for years due to time constraints, as indicated above.

I feel I achieved a lot in the period I worked on these issues before becoming CEO and now wish to return to that role on a part time basis. This will free up time to spend with grandchildren and other interests I have in life that have been thwarted by the working routine of a CEO.

In view of the above I will relinquish the CEO position on Friday 4 January 2013.

Kindest regards to all.

Steve Tizzard

20 November 2012

to rid the world of those rotating thrashing flying machine thingies because the ejection seat only has a single use warranty and the insurance coverage that our illustrious leaders have negotiated only covers......

..... ingrowing toenails and miscellaneous other claims below $0.89 (aggregate per year).

"It was a mistake" said the Maurie Minor "The leadership (chuck) will put it right, leave it with me, don't worry, it'll be OK ................ and it is only wooses that need both insurance AND registration, so grow up you NES maggots (the Maurie was getting a bit confident again after the shemozzle at HQ had been partly sorted, so he started to draft his next letter to Eeeen and.....................

" know a thing about aircraft because they...........

....... have a cunning plan, to ..............

"......747, what sort of Ultralight thingy is that?" he asked."It isn't" said Brine "and do you realise you've now grounded most of the world's airlines. is is a matter of safety?"

 

"Safety? On NO you silly thing" said the slighly effeminate member of the leadership (sic).

Then the leadership (perk) realised that 747's were a shining example of the "new GA", and exactly what some members had been warning the AUF about for the past 20 years.

"You can't really compare a TyroneJack-a-Grillon with a 747, as they are sufficiently different to need to be in separate categories" said one of the original Rag-&-Tube guys.

"It's just natural evolution and we need to cater for them all ............. but we might need to move NatFly to somewhere with a longer strip (the next Natfly will actually be held beside the main runway (not the pissy little 2nd runway) at Sydney's Kingsford Smith, so members need to start to study the arrivals procedures about now)" said one of the progressives.

"I agree" said Ahlot "As a 747 is just a recycled beer-can, zackly like my SportyJauntyStar, both of which are much admired by the Bedlinen family, who ............

.......a copy of "Stamps for the Connoseur" written in 1728 and worth $150,000.00 - enough to buy him a Rotract engined anything."I don't get it" said Brine as he shoved a spitball down the Rat's pitot tube "why don't we...................."

..... all play a tune on these pitot tubes (Avreps) like the Pipes of Pan. After all, AhLot the Harlot is already dressed for the part and we can play the Beethoven Rectitude in C Major.

"Hold on your blokes (& blokettes)" said the CFakir "You can't call the Major a "C" and the entire Board certainly hasn't been guilty of any "rectitude".

Then the secret was revealed when a member of the leadership (sic) appeared before the IATA "We did it to get square with Ian Baker" he (or she) said, then added "When we couldn't block Eeen's Membership, we thought that we would stop the bugger thru not being able to re-register, and the fact that a few thousand others couldn't register either was a small price to pay."

"Geeeeez" said the bloke from IATA, who was also the CASA Inspector, a member of the Moderatti (but not yet elevated to a position of magnificence), and a member of the .............

My Aunt has just come in from reading the paper out in the garden, and has pointed out the article that reports that Australia's mission in Afganistan has been suspended, pending an audit to get the paperwork right. Apparently they had the Taliban registered as the CIA and the Bedlinen family were shown as owning a LSA that was based in Lightning Ridge.

....he inadvertantly lowered his undercarriage and exposed his oleo"Bloody hell' said Mavis "how did it ever get like that?"

 

"Well" said MM, "It happened when.........

..... we got it wrong, but don't worry as I'm going to set things right, it was a mistake, it is just a minor issue, just leave it with us and we'll fix it all up." Then to deflect the attention of the NES maggots, away from the RAA issues, the Minor's ars* dragging, & Ahlocks's leadership of the revolution (aviation engine reference) ("Viva La Revolution" because it is not very viva when the revolutions stop at height), the Minor Major added "I don't like oleo's all that much, but most NES'ers do like areolas, which give them ............

.......maggots, because.....

Turbo had kept this quiet, but now that Major has let the cat out of the bag so to speak, Turbo has photos of his taildragging if anyone wants them.

.... when you drag it along, while it is a lesser problem than having to give a daily update, those maggots on Rec Flying are never satisfied, however when you drag it along in the sand you are sure to ......

Major Mission with his tail dragging..............

..... on the ground.

"You wouldn't believe it Tubb, old mate" said the MM "But in addition to all of the trouble at RAHQ, now I have discovered that I have worms, but I guess that's not as bad as ...............

.....want to discuss why he talks about sniffing fruit......

Back on the trail of Captain's ancestors, Turbo stopped off at Airlie Beach for a relief break and was confronted by this:

"This isn't a con" he said "Those are quite nice fronts."

But his further attention was cut short, when in walked ...................

....Luckily on the last day of research the team found a McDonalds serving real Angus beef, fed on real grass, but unfortunately the team wasn't so lucky in finding any trace of our NES ancestors.

Returning to the now blacked out Columbian jungle, with Rat in a state of high frustration, the drip, drip, drip of rain on the lush vegetation was interuppted by the whop, whop, whop of helicopter blades..........

.... and into sight flew the Italian Airforce, going backwards (RAA AvRef) with Flt Lieutenant Vito Genovese, covered in epaulettes and gold braid, saying "Have a U sin any decent steaks, and how do I geta this chopper out of 10th reverse, where it has been stuck since Muscles-Ini caused a bit of a stink around the Mediteranean in the 40's."

"Do you know why the Roman Empire's army was so successful?" asked Tubby "It was because there is no reverse gear in a chariot."

"That's a very funny" said Vito "I can't wait to tella my oncle that one up in Griffith, thena we'll see whose laughing, Tubbo."

"Wait" said Tubb "I've got a couple of blokes over in Canberra that I want your Uncle to have a chat with. They ............

And as Loxette brings a brilliant chapter to a halt with a full stop, Turbo wishes to congratulate the Rat on diverting our attention and grabbing #7000 with a post he'd clearly spent a month working on.Turbo had just failed an audit and had been busy putting out excuses for a few days, but was back in training under a real Major who had instructed him to "Go out there, get into that $%$#$# Columbian jungle at RF, sort them out, and don't take any prisoners" whereupon he went back to watching "Days of our lives" which, as a military man he used to practise how to live a civilian life.

 

He looked up; "I", he began.........

"I think that I have been in the jungle too long, as I found that photo of CheLox very erotic, and in the dark of the Columbian night, while using my trusty flashlight in my left hand, I used Chelox's photo as inspiration while I did to myself what the RAA management has been doing while (and after) the audits were failed, and I ...............

..[/size]*see "icecream" thread to figure out what that's all about.

"You scream?" questioned Brine "That's nothing. You should have heard Tubby scream about 2 minutes after he forked over the US$36.75, but after they let him down, he ...........

... nipple cripple he'll never forget.

"Nope!" interjected turboCounsel. "That'd be an offence under section 2; clause 132; subclause II of the People With a Middle Name of Bloody, Protection Act - 1953 (The Bloody Act) where it states that any act of boobile mistreatment attracts A MILLION DOLLAR FINE and the defendant will be hung by the goolies until repentant.

 

Dammit!:doh:cursed DbI, when he realised that.......

..... the TurbidPlankton has been known to pay up to US$36.75 to be hung by the goolies, when he was on holidays in ..............

STOP!!! yelled Elpresidente "There will be no shooting, unless I or the exec Ok it, and even then only when the bullets are moving in a general direction away from us...... In fact surely there is a messenger around here somewhere that is full of bad news deserving of a lead head or two" Nobu was confussed...what matches got to do with it he thought to himself.

The Mini Minor swivled his head back and forth until he finally caught sight of ElRatpoo, the Tuba Player and AndysgetshisRocksoff...."Ah 3 more deserving miscreants I havent seen since......

...... my nightmare on Pirie St, last night, and if anyone is to be shot it should be all of the cynics, stirrers and those off little faith, who are undermining this great and efficient orgynisation. It was them that caused the audit failures and made a few of us work back a bit late, and it was them and that Issac bloke that want things improved. They got it wrong, I'll put it right and I'll fix it all up, most of them aren't members, and this is all their fault."

"But" interjected Brine, who had heard the Treaz spout this crap before in Temora when he sold the Prez a dump after the Prez looked like a Bunny in a spotlight, "I don't ................

...things harder than cottonwool balls to hurl at the enemy when the revolution begins."

LoxGuevara was aware that the revolution would be a battle to the death of a thousand of papercuts as anything even slightly resembling a threat to the beast had been outlawed and banned or taxed into oblivion. But alas, the suppressed minions that would form the revolutionary guard had grown soft and poor of eyesight after decades of trawling through red tape to eek out an existence without being devoured by the beast's insatiable desire for absolute control.....

 

The Aunt's rodent nephew needs to remove all that hair, the youthful rounded face and add glasses to the Tshirt logo to bear even the slightest resemblance..

"Eeee gads, chaps" said Nobu to Ino "What is this beast of which CheLox speaks, cobbler?"

Ino thought and repried in equarry good Queen's (not that there is anything wrong with that) engrish " I think that AhGuavela is leferring to either the RAA, the CWA, the ALP, the LNCP or the DLP and I do think that he appears to be disirrusioned or srightry p*ssed orf, old sport."

"Well if he is that upset, and can't go for a fry in his SportyJauntyStar to rerieve the tension, he should shoot his AK47 into the air to rerieve his anxiety (rike the Alabs do) , then shoot his road before ...................

Hi All,As I said previously, "It is a very ill wind that blows no good" Although this matter has been very Traumatic, I can see many positives that can come out of this, if we seek them.

 

Yes it has been a huge wake up call. Not a gentle shake, more a hammer to the head. But we deserved it.

 

Make no mistake, the major blame falls on the Board itself. Myself and the other eleven Board members. (There is one vacancy in Vic) We were elected to manage the business (Association) on your behalf, and to have failed all these audits, and had all those groundings etc, means we have failed you.

 

The positives are we have the potential to emerge much stronger, with cutting edge procedures and systems for our paperwork. The membership is now taking much more interest in how their Association is run, and ideally they will now have more contact with their local Rep. More contact with your Rep means more communication, both ways, and less rumours and more transparency. Hopefully more persons will nominate for Board positions, and most important, more Members will hopefully read the election statements of the candidates, make an informed decision, and actually vote. If you don't hold us accountable, we will not hold accountable those down the line.

 

On the Technical side, we will gain a much clearer understanding of all our aircraft types and in particular LSA. We will come to understand the fine lines of compliance with these aircraft, and we should not make any more Registration mistakes.

 

John McK

I love your optimism (and your communication), but I have to say to you that what you describe cannot be achieved with the same 3 on the Executive and the same so-called CEO.

The attitude of those people is indemic and the competence of the head of the RAA Office has been proven by these events.

There MUST be no more group hugs and love-ins at the top, there MUST be consequences for these persistant c*ck-ups (RAA didn't merely "trip up" on an audit, these dills failed 4 of them after being warned, & probably also coached and helped who knows how many times by the auditors after each failure (as they almost always do)) and those who were in charge were responsible .... and deserve to be held responsible.

And add to that the issue re the AGM Minutes and the so-called Treasurer's Report & audited accounts.

The fact that they have not already resigned indicates where they stand on personal honour ..... and also shows contempt for the Membership.

Regards Geoff

David,

In those 11 paragraphs, you got it in one.

And even as of last night, on the RAA website, the Membership are still being "MANAGED" by people who can't even manage to be prepared for an AGM or to subsequently generate a set of Minutes thereof.

The entire episode is a disgrace .... and a crying shame.

But bouquets to Board Member McKeown for fronting up here. Well done John.

Regards Geoff

......he was interrupted at his tea bagging by a plaintive cry."Not the Tsara!" cried the Rat in mock sympathy, surely the Tsara isn't up for renewal this week!"

 

"Yes" said hadeoughoftheKrapLox, munching on his Krispy Kreme donut

 

"But how are they going to find papers for a heap of crop built by a bunch of gypsies" said Turbo helpfully

 

And it finally dawned on Ionlywanttoflylox that perhaps he should have been paying more attention to the instrument which gave him the freedom to fly

 

"I didn't vote" he said "because I didn't want to offend anyone"

 

"In that case, it's your turn to be President" said the Rat "make sure when anyone asks a question that you demand to see their membership card, birth certificate, and Officers mess card, particularly if that......"

..... outspoken renegade AndySh@ leaves God's Waiting-Room and moves down to God's Country in the Riverina.

.. a bottle of the finest chataeu legzopener from the bottle-o."

hadenoughoftheKrapLox had retreated to a survivalist brewery secreted within the caves of Mount Moorong to escape the carnage of the bureaucratic parasite that was destroying the land of Oz and was planning for the revolution when.....

.... the penny dropped for RatPooo.

"So that is why the sale of Beret's and AK47's has gone thru the roof in Wagga" he mused "Well bugger me (not that there is anything wrong with that). Loxy has turned into the Riverina's and the RAA's own version of Che Guevara, and has had his own T-shirts printed. That is the great Loxy's T-shirt photo below, complete with halo. And when asked why he has taken up the cudgel for the peoples of the Murrumbidgee Valley and the members of the RAA, he plagiarised that great Che quote by saying when he was asked if he was a ComoLox "“If you consider that the things that I am doing in the people’s & the member's interest represent manifestations of communism, then call me a commo, mate. If you are asking whether I am a member of the Partido Socialista Popular (or whether I am at all Popular) the answer is no.”

Then Poxy added "I am just interested in personal power, casual sex, occasional flying, and a lot of .................

My Aunt took her gear off and ran around the garden, saying that this expose of PoxyLoxyChe was a worthy post # 7000.

....on Elprezidentes shoulders and show me the real ones you got off........

.... that handsome Szara skipper when you got off at 5,280 ft."

On hearing that, AhRoxoff stopped drying his hose, cut another key or two (to the tune of "You've got to pick a pocket or 2" ... from Oliver) and said "It's hard to hold that elevation in a SportyJauntyStar with just one hand on your joy-stick (Avref) and your other on .............

As Ranky pointed out in post # 321, at least someone is RAA is reading this thread, as evidenced by the retropective addition of the Runciman moniker on website announcements made over the past couple of days.

Too little too late SR, with your management (sic)/housekeeping or more like an attempt to clean-up some of the wreckage.

Wagga Wagga Dentist just before Rat was to have his front Tooth replaced.......Where it went after that time is unknown, although it was said that the Coal Mine that Ratus Ratus ran did indeed find a gold nugget that looked remarkably like a six sided nut the next day...What a coincidence, the like of which havent been since since the last AGM when......

.... a couple of columns of the Treasurer's Report actually added up, the paper colour of that report matched the Treasurer's jump-suit and the members all yelled "Don't worry about the figures, don't bore us about the money, don't be tedious telling us about Auditors, just tell us more about yourself and what you have seen over the years."

At which time the Treasurer adjusted his epaulettes, pulled himself ...... up to his full height, while some members yelled out "Stand up, will ya", and the Treasurer said "Once upon a time .......... we got it wrong, the Prez stuffed it up, I will put it right and ............

La plume de ma tante is out in the garden and she just noticed that there are but 6 posts to go to get the NES to 7000. She backs the TurbidPlankton to get it.

...... So you could have this type of system using volunteer skilled Members, with their travelling/accom/meals covered by RAA, ......

RAA's membership contains an amazing talent pool of skilled and experienced people and I am convinced that a number of the good people would be prepared to donate their time and out-of pocket costs to assist RAA to get out of this hole, and get back on the path to righteousness ........ if it were handled well by a new leadership.

But while-ever RAA has this public service, holy-er than thou Executive, management clique, cover their ars*, pump up their ego's, manage the membership ethos, good people will just stay doing their own thing, keep their head down and just try to go flying (which has just about come to an end for some).

Regards Geoff

Dodo

Good management is like flying a plane. You need to keep yourself & your mind ahead of the action. As soon as you get behind you are playing catchup and are doomed.

To continue with that analogy, I reckon that RAA has been in the midst of the management equivalent of PIOs for the past 3 years at least (where they have been reacting instead of being fully in control).

Good management would have been proactive and arranging internal or outside assistance with audits to ensure that RAA passed any CASA inspection.

The standard line taken to members by SR and the Executive is "contact your representative" and that covers their arses, but we know, again from when Ian Baker was on the Board, that he had his knuckles wrapped because in their view he spoke/reported too much to the membership through this website and elsewhere.

In my case, I wouldn't give you 2 bob for Mr Caban's ability to represent me effectively.

And I always have the feeling with RAA that the members are being "managed" by the Executive. Examples of this are no mention of all these issues over recent months, either on the website or in the magazine, no reporting to the membership by Tizzard in the magazine when they had already experienced numerous audit failures (except for Tizzards tome on how to fly a circuit in the last Mag), very poor responses to David Isaac's Questions-on-Notice at the last AGM, etc. etc (let me know if you need any more).

Regards Geoff