RAAus access to class C and D airspace.

[skippydiesel]

FYI;

Access to controlled airspace for sport and recreation pilots

We have amended Civil Aviation Orders (CAOs) 95.10, 95.32 and 95.55. These amendments will allow sport and recreation pilots operating under Recreational Aviation Australia (RAAus) to operate in controlled airspace and controlled aerodromes, provided:

• RAAus authorises them to do so
• they individually meet certain minimum requirements
• the aircraft meets certain minimum requirements. 

[facthunter]

Could it be much more Vague? Nev

[Garfly]

Some clarification:

 

F2026L00563ES.pdf

 

This is part of the preamble to the Explanatory Statement (above)"

 

"The purpose of the 3 instruments is to set out a standard procedure for authorising pilots of

the types of sport and recreational aircraft that are mentioned in CAOs 95.10, 95.32 and

95.55 to operate at controlled aerodromes and in controlled airspace. This is an alternative to

the current arrangements, which are inconsistent between pilots of different types of sport and

recreational aircraft, and also require such pilots to obtain qualifications under Part 61 of the

Civil Aviation Safety Regulations 1998 (CASR).

Broadly speaking, the 3 instruments will allow Recreational Aviation Australia Limited

(RAAus) to oversee the training, assessment and certification or authorisation of pilots of

various sport and recreational aircraft to operate at controlled aerodromes and in controlled

airspace, provided the pilots meet certain standards, endorsed by RAAus, that are equivalent

to some of the standards set out in Part 61 of CASR, and standards that are the same as those

in CASA EX01/24 — Flight Crew Medical Status (Class 5 Medical Self-declaration)

Exemption 2024 (CASA EX01/24). CASA EX01/24 sets out a process for completing an

online medical self-assessment as an alternative to the existing classes of medical certificates

that pilots are required to hold under Part 61 of CASR, all of which have historically been

issued only after a medical assessment by a medical practitioner under Part 67 of CASR.

In order to maintain consistency, the 3 instruments insert substantially identical provisions

into CAOs 95.10, 95.32 and 95.55, including provisions that mirror the provisions and

definitions in CASA EX01/24. The amendments in the 3 instruments are intended as an

interim measure until the Part 103 Manual of Standards (Part 103 MOS) is made."

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Garfly

[Student Pilot]

The process to simplify and condense the regs hasn't gone well has it?

[facthunter]

I  reckon it's in the too Hard Basket. Nev

[rodgerc]

Pantene Process: “It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.”

Edited 10 hours ago by rodgerc
Font mix

[BurnieM]

13 minutes ago, rodgerc said:

Pantene Process: “It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.”

 

Actually it is happening overnight 🙂 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by BurnieM

[BrendAn]

at the risk of being shot down . i have to ask is there a reason raa pilots need to enter controlled air space.  would the pilots that need to do that be better off transitioning to ga.

i don't know. just putting it out there because every time raa gain something extra it also moves further away from the affordable rec flying that the auf stood for.

Edited 9 hours ago by BrendAn

[coljones]

15 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

at the risk of being shot down . i have to ask is there a reason raa pilots need to enter controlled air space.  would the pilots that need to do that be better off transitioning to ga.

i don't know. just putting it out there because every time raa gain something extra it also moves further away from the affordable rec flying that the auf stood for.

No one is removing any aircraft type from the RAA register. There are still affordable planes out there.

[BrendAn]

14 minutes ago, coljones said:

No one is removing any aircraft type from the RAA register. There are still affordable planes out there.

my point is are raaus moving further away from their grass roots.  

 

[facthunter]

Yeah but they get less attention. It's always the NEW stuff that gets the Most Interest. Then the rest gets a bit neglected. There's NO Kudos in it for the Empire Builders. Next step, a moon Lander?  Who foots the Bill.? Cheap Affordable Flying WAS our AIM. Flying WAS never that cheap and the flipside is the Paperwork  and Regulation.  THE Freedom of the  SKIES is somewhat Illusory. Nev

[Bennyboy320]

54 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

i have to ask is there a reason raa pilots need to enter controlled air space. 

This allows us in the Brisbane area to avoid tiger country when traveling north giving you the option of a coastal transit through Sunshine Coast airspace & when traveling south a coastal or western VFR transit route through Gold Coast airspace.

 

I’m hoping that RAAUS will automatically transfer PPL or above licenced pilots that fly RAAUS with the CTA qualification on our certificate.

[Garfly]

24 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Yeah but they get less attention. It's always the NEW stuff that gets the Most Interest. Then the rest gets a bit neglected. There's NO Kudos in it for the Empire Builders. Next step, a moon Lander?  Who foots the Bill.? Cheap Affordable Flying WAS our AIM. Flying WAS never that cheap and the flipside is the Paperwork  and Regulation.  THE Freedom of the  SKIES is somewhat Illusory. Nev

 

Originally, grass roots meant single seat only, no flying above 300' and no crossing roads.

So not a lot of freedom of the skies in the good old days.  Regulations were loosened. Things moved on.

It's not a zero sum game.  No rag 'n tuber will be harmed by the restriction being lifted for those with a transponder.

It will be great for many RAAus flyers to be able get clearances to transit Military and other CTA zones all over the country.

And those who'd like to visit places like Ballina and Coffs.  Beats being hemmed in by the paddock you levitated from.

 

 

 

[Blueadventures]

The RAAus pilots will achieve the same standard of procedures to access the airspace as others who have the endorsement, the aircraft will be equipped and the equipment tested to the required standard, so its responsibility of the pilot to fly within the airspace according to the rules.  Any cowboys will be delt with; hope there are none doing the wrong thing.

[skippydiesel]

RAA pilots wishing to go to/from the lower Hunter Valley will now require a CTA endorsement and all the rigmarole inherent in using it. Thes norther routes are over densely populated parts of Sydney and or  heavily treed rugged terrain - Tiger Country

There is an alternative in Victor 1, that sort of hugs the coast,  that does not require the endorsement but does have the aircraft at 500 ft above the sea and in some places well away from land - wet Tiger Country.

Go West Young Man and you wont need a CTA endorsement however it seem you will fly worryingly low over the Great Dividing Range - Real Bad Tiger Country.

East is of course your rout to the USA & The Donald - scarry stuff!

South is the only "friendly"(the potential for a relativly safe forced landing), way out but will add many minutes/fuel consumption, to any trip.😈

Edited 8 hours ago by skippydiesel