turboplanner

I had another look today and the situation is getting worse. Not only are there few actual write up of what happened, but it seems that on the same day, 2 different planes had he same incident at Mildura. Funny one was in Vic and the other was in SA.

Without an army of volunteers on the ground in all States, monitoring what is happening is always going to be hit and miss, relying on complaints from the public, information from concerned instructors, pilots and ground staff, reports from pilots, and investigations by police and ATSB. Even so, in the past when this was collated by skilled people it produced about 30 incidents a month we cold all learn from. When the quality breaks down to the point where a flat tyre is listed as an engine failure, or is as sloppy as you're saying, it's not a good look.

 

 

The New Zealand Tort on negligence is based on the same legal precedent; Donoghue v Stevenson as Australia, so the results of this case will be of interest to us.

 

It's also roughly similar to the ferris wheel placement at Old Bar.

 

https://en-nz.oxbridgenotes.com/revision_notes/law-univerity-of-otago-laws301-law-of-torts/samples/negligence-duty-of-care

 

 

Fantasy Corner

 

 

 I certainly don't think we/you should be going through the finer points of sideslipping  here. Its a crossed controls thing for sure and many don't do it well so shouldn't do it at all till they know  exactly what they are doing. There are a lot of instructors who don't really do it (or like it much). When you kick the plane straight after a crab approach you are concentrating on not having  a side load on the into wind wheel (or both) when it contacts the runway and also making sure the upwind wing doesn't get raised by the further effect of rudder (and the wind itself). After contact you roll along with "in to wind" aileron  applied to prevent the  wing lifting and enough rudder to oppose the wind  making it weathercock and turn into wind..  Nev

How many newton metres of force are applied to the controls for each of those movements, and of what duration, and when is the action reversed.

 

 

Send a few out our way Turbo!

We are getting eaten out buy Kangaroos......they can have as many as they want.

 

A lot around at the moment. A friend said he came across on of about 3,000 crossing the road in western NSW. Just had to stop the Land Cruiser and wait until they passed.

 

 

Just flew 3 and a half hours trip this morning and plonked it down, no greaser but no problem either.

 I hope you flew a 3 degree approach?

 

 

The other day, on the access rd on the property where I keep my plane, saw a skittled wombat. It was not an accidental casualty. What hope when nongs just can't help themselves in plundering the wildlife?

They were probably hungry homeless people.

 

 

For what it’s worth, I can’t really analyse how I land. Just do it with practice. I read about crosswind methods etc but with practice you just work out a method for your aircraft. Eventually you only stuff up about one landing in five. By which I mean rounding out too high, the usual problem, with a thump rather than a gentle kiss on the runway. If I flew every week I’m sure I would be better.

Yes, flying at least once a week gets you in the groove with repeatable performances regardless of strip or weather variations but very few pilots who fly for recreation are able to keep that frequency up, so just one in five sounds good.

 

 

There are probably five times the trees in central Victoria that there were 40 years ago. The Hawke initiative and lots of Land Care and highway plantings have made a big difference.

Drove through the western district yesterday. There's still less than 5% of the trees that existed pre-ringbarking. Around Mortlake you can see open grass  to the horizon with some small wind breaks. Crazy things, like bluegum plantations with the trees about 400 mm apart for wind breaks, then putting sheep in because the growth was too dense; result - bare trunks allowing the wind to whistle through and kill the lambs on cold nights.

 

 

Gee, that would have taken you a while..... ...... sorry.

Took me from about 1421 with the clearing for the beacon near Merimbula to the ring barking peak in the late 1950s

 

 

We cut down 15 billion trees according  to the late Labor member of parliament and cabinet minister, Tom Uren, and he tried to get me to agree to replant them all.

 

 

Believe it or not some people have been genuinely trying to help you.

 

 

Where’s Sydney?

 

 

Thinking about this is fun. If I want to do the above plan, I can look on the map, see a landmark 4000 ft from the threshold for final, pick a landmark 1500 ft further out for the base leg and use that as a starting point. If I turn onto base abeam the 4000 ft mark, I don’t think that that will be overthinking it at all. That will just be fun. 

This works for calm days only; wind speed will blow it apart. You are likely to be flying over time with winds from all directions and a wide variation is speed, so the turn points are rarely the same when the wind is blowing, and as Facthunter said, if you go to a different airfield you don't have those landmarks, and on top of that the weather will almost never be what you predicted from your starting field, and on top of that the destination altitude can be hundreds of feet higher or lower, some fields are LH or RH circuits only, and just to cap it off you may have to make an in-flight decision to divert to an alternate airfield you have never seen.  Why would you not just knuckle down and learn dynamic circuit decisions like everyone else?

 

 

As you quickly learn when a drone disappears into the distance, wind speed is the key factor.

 

 

It’s quite normal for someone not being able to achieve successful circuits in a Cessna after a layoff even after five hours instruction with an Instructor, and exponentially more so in most RA aircraft.

 

Visual judgement, hand and eye co-ordination, spatial awareness all have to come together again. To disregard a competent instructor and reach for theory books ESPECIALLY books applying to heavy, or jet aircraft will just exacerbate the problem and ensure the student fails to get it together for much longer. I’d love to see any recreational pilot perform a 3% glideslope without the necessary instruments and airfield equipment so why the hell even talk about it when the person is not successfully achieving conventional circuits.

 

As others have said, you can’t learn to fly an aircraft on the internet.

 

 

I was taught to adjust speed with elevator and rate of descent with throttle.

Bruce

You had a good instructor, after that you have to do something very unnatural not to land on the mains with the nose up off the ground so you can allow  it to lower at a much slower speed.

 

You're unlikely  to write off a nose wheel.

 

What Pen is talking about is point and shoot which takes you into wheel barrowing, bouncing territory, snapping wheel legs and blaming RA for flimsy legs. These aircraft are not jet fighters and don't respond well to those techniques.

 

 

Get a good instructor

 

 

Especially Trump.

 

 

Maybe not, but they are piloting an aircraft and all of us flying VH have to have an ASIC or AVID to use our licence.

Requiring drone operators to have an ASIC would be a boost to the economy.

 

kaz

You’re quite right. With the income the government could bring in 10,000 more Sudanese refugees. This would cause more fighting, causing the States to boost their police numbers, which would create a need for more McDonalds, boosting the cattle, bun, and pickle industries, and Cleanaway’s business, boosting truck orders from Iveco, requiring more TAFEs for training technicians and Sudanese, so a clean, self-funding operation.

 

 

All drone operators should be made to get an ASIC card. Problem solved right ?

They don’t stand on airfields.

 

 

And they'r still for sale in Sydney for $30, supposedly for children.

All unlicensed and under age for the law to do much other than confiscate kids toys.

 

I have a need for an illegal "catapult". to get a rope-line over my tree branch, prior to pruning.

 

spacesailor

I wouldn’t worry too much about them. I got one as a present and there is a built in altitude limiter of about 40 feet.

 

 

Bernoulli

 

 

I wonder about the efficiency... P=IV and at say 100 amps and 40,000 volts thats 4 million Watts.

Here is a failing of my brainpower though...  how does the thrust actually get applied to the airframe?

 

I know it does, but just how and where?   But overall, wow!

This still has a lot of Bernouli in it.

 

I've read elsewhere about the effect forgot where, and there was more emphasis on the positive vs negative for use as thrust.

 

 

Sounds like you've seen a few ballot box results FT