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Posts posted by turboplanner
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As soon as someone starts talking about the "China Virus or US social media gossip" it's a sure sign to disregard every fruitloop statement made.
The internet these days allows us to get every single fact a US citizen gets, from some of the best medical facilities in the world. There is absolutely no point in collecting the thoughts of every academic who figures he or she has a better handle on what has happened or might happen next compared to a facilities employing several thousand qualified professionals.
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3 minutes ago, Flying Binghi said:
Hmmm... a “spiral out of control” 🤔 ...I thought a plateau had been reached...😏 I guess the all-cause rates will show the reality.
Seems every few years...
“...2017-2018 influenza epidemic is sending people to hospitals and urgent-care centers in every state, and medical centers are responding with extraordinary measures: asking staff to work overtime, setting up triage tents, restricting friends and family visits and canceling elective surgeries, to name a few...”
https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/
No one said a plateau had been reached in the US FB, and no relationship to the 2017-2018 flu year except and example that US medical facilities have quite a small capacity limit when handling any mass outbreak. Ours is not a lot better, and NSW will be getting towards facility limits in the next few days based on the current expansion.
The US couldn't make contact tracing and social distancing work, so they are trying to vaccinate their way out of the very high death rate, and having a lot of success by their standards, but they are light years behind Australia, and where we can launch Isolating attacks, bubbles, control rings and isolate people, they have to put up with the exponential spread of the disease through the unvaccinated.
There is plenty of data, on a daily basis for every State, so you don't have to dream up "all-cause" theories to know exactly what's going on at all times.
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3 minutes ago, spacesailor said:
WELL
To remove the Freedom of Australian's Right to walk their dog, or whatever needs to be, In the cool of night night. After finishing work at say 8pm Home at say 45 minutes later, have dinner then walk the mut, & be back in the house BEFORE CURFEW,
don't You think it's wrong. I do. If your dog barks to say it needs walkies at ANY Godforsaken hour. IT NEEDS a walk, " don't forget the doggie bag for the droppings ! "
My Dr refuses to give Any written exemptions, even knowing the wife has a lung problem & cannot get enough air while wearing that mask.
spacesailor
Well you're so busy blaming the politicians, wrongly, that you make your wife suffer. Check your Health Department or CHO to see what the mask exemptions are.
Same with the freedom to walk your dog. Try reading the Health Department lockdown conditions to see if there's a lockdown time there. No you don't have political freedoms in a State of Emergency, you're under Health Orders.
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10 minutes ago, Captain said:
PETE'S JERKOFFWALLABY, HERE SEEN ON THE GROUND AT
ZEEHAN INTERNATIONAL, AND PAINTED IN TASMANIA'S OFFICIAL
STATE COLOURS, SO AS TO QUALIFY AS A TAX DEDUCTION.
In a rare slip, because REAL Ultralight flyers are taught to fly to a level of precision not seen in GA, including the ability to use a runway width that only extends to the wheel centrelines. Bull is not showing off here, just forgot to move the aircrtaft over to the GA runway on the left for modesty.
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1 hour ago, Flightrite said:
People will fight/push back against the continuing tyranny, the grubby Govt/s can't control everyone like sheep! Expect a LOT more push back!
Ignorance this time around will most probably see you die, so the dissidents and antivaxxers will reduce automatically.
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..............event if the neices are
(a) from the Mainland
(b) not born in Australia
(c) over 75
and ..................
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....internecine breeding. In fact there's a whole Act, the Internecine Breeding Act which is designed to prevent ....................
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54 minutes ago, walrus said:
Rumor is that Dan Andrews is about to try a “super lockdown”…….
Well you can see what the reaction is when you just write inflammatory stuff like that. The reality is that the DHHS teams are now getting much faster data from electronic contact tracing and are able to take the fight to the Delta strain in a much more targetted way, so will be going for the spreader hotspots. They will be targetting childcare centres where speading among the children is taken back into homes, and "construction" where for some reason a lot of spreading has been occurring, and takeaways - the coffee shops which have continued to do business by serving outside theor front door, allowing people to congregate. The Ministers had a meeting yesterday looking at the various ways to handle this, given that child cares will stay open to cater for children of essential works, so will be short of income, and the construction industry is big and very complicated.
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....at least identifiable.
It's true that Turbo was RSEA Up. Whenever Turbo went to Tasmania he had the same problem; do you walk upright like we do in the Mainland or do you put your head down and walk along using your hands to cling to the bottom of the world.
Meanwhile Bull, or bull a he is still better known had been booked for having a 50 mil gun mounted on an aircraft which was a terrorist offence, and ................
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2 minutes ago, Flightrite said:
Of course they do! What drug Co would produce an experimental drug for human guinea pigs without having a 'get out of jail' card? They would have to be crazy!
Show us.
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7 minutes ago, octave said:
Yes.
FB you do tend to post claims and when they are refuted you change tack. You made a post casting doubt on the efficacy of the vaccine using Gibraltar as an example. I would suggest that your example does not hold water. The data is freely available.
Is that your "Yes" there Octave?
Is there any public information available to say that the unspecified manufacturers of the unspecified vaccines have a unique legal indemnity?
The Federeal Government indemnified health professionals vaccinating AZ subject to the patient receiving medical advice.
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2 minutes ago, Flying Binghi said:
Do the manufacturer of your car have legal indemnity against any faulty product claims ? 🤔
Why do you want to know? Are we going to have the sublime question against every product in the yellow pages?
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5 minutes ago, Flying Binghi said:
A question I have asked before. Do the vaccine manufacturers still have legal indemnity ?
Why do you want to know?
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............vaxx you.
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They have to get in or out of an airfield in a hostile country as quickly as possible to avoid shoulder-fire missiles so are designed for steep decsenting turns and steep climb outs.
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8 minutes ago, yampy said:
57 to be exact
Sunny needs to dump his leaking mate; that's a couple of times he has been way out.
The 57 comes from 49,607 test results, a massive ramp up of testing rates from the start of this lockdown, so a really good effort by the people who came in for testing, and pure gold for the contact tracers.
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31 minutes ago, Flying Binghi said:
Despite nearly 100 percent of Gibraltar “fully vaccinated” in accordance with government guidelines, the nation is being locked down once again...
..According to reports, the number of new Chinese Virus cases in Gibraltar has increased by over 2,500 percent since June 1, which is when the country achieved a 99 percent vaccination rate...
If you trawl the net enough, you can always find something to put an illogical spin on reality.
Gibralta is a localised situation with a population of 33,000 - a bit like analysing Mildura.
The policy of fighting Covid by vaccinating has always included an acceptance that those not vaccinated will die.
So nothing surprising with what's happening. Whe unvaccinated people come in every morning to work in Gibralta from the surrounding countries they get sick, so Gibralta is just being humane in locking down to save these people.
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.........stop Rona.
[We are always nice to other users on NES, but there's no way to explain this other than Bull is as deaf as a post]
ROS32 looking through his binoculars saw what he thought was a "Homebuilt Microlite" which appeared to be diving at him. Knowing how often these POS drop out of the sky, he quickly pulled down the armour-plated anti-Tas barrier and radioed-in the sighting. As luck would have it there was an Australian FA-18 practising at Avalon for next year's Air Show. Turbo called him in to defend the Mainland but the only weapon he had was his afterburner. Since Tasmania didn't have an Air Force other than an old CT4, he whipped across the Heads in a couple of seconds, pulled neatly in front of Bull and gave him a taste of burning kerosene.
A fishing boat off the coast of Victoria, noticed a single head bobbing in the water. He knew it was safe to continue because there was only one head, but he didn't expect.................
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5 hours ago, Student Pilot said:
You forgot loathsome, blame shifting and talking of blame shifting Scotty from marketing has been absent. One of his very few public appearances he said the mission in Afghanistan was accomplished so all OK. After the Russians left there 20 years ago the place was overun in a couple of weeks, now Scotty from marketing says it happened too fast to try and help those that helped us. Those that don't learn from history. Thread drift, spin is the connection.......
I spoke to an Afghani and asked him what happened. Receiving a less than informative answer I asked him why the Army just stopped fighting. His answer "The new game is on."
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4 hours ago, kgwilson said:
The strain is so transmissible it got out through people in Hotel quarantine passing it to another group in a room on the opposite side of the hallway (who originally tested negative) when doors were opened for 3 to 5 seconds up to 4 times when food was being delivered.
That's a characteristic of the Delta strain. In the previous Melbourne lockdown a person arrived in Adelaide from overseas, did his 14 days in Adelaide Hotel quarantine, and was walking out of the hotel when he caught the Delta strain, so unrelated to him being from overseas, flew to his destination, Melbourne maybe had some lunch and looked at some shops etc, got home, went out and visited two big shopping centres, then two restaurants and I think two night clubs, and he'd had touchpoints with over 5,000 people, but the electronic contract tracing knocked that down in two weeks.
The task is to change our ways slightly to minimise time in air conditioning or closed buildings, maintain a bigger distance - maybe 3 metres, wear masks better than we do now, sanitise hands better than we do now, and so on.
With a bit of luck the NZ action will put a ring around that infection and contacts and completely neuter it.
Melbourne was getting noticeably slack over the past couple of weeks and into this lockdown with too many cars on the road and people in shopping centres etc, but the actions taken by the CHO and Police have made a noticeable change within 24 hours.
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5 minutes ago, red750 said:
NSW has 633 new cases today and Gladys says it will get worse. FFS stay home!
The contact tracing workload must be just about bursting. Wouldn't surprise me if some Victorian tracers are sent up or join in from Vic along with SA and WA
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...........but the only fly in the ointment was the Ring of Steel set up in the 1800s when Tasmanians started to breed. The ROS details have never been released by the Victorian Government which knows that Victorians would be the first victims if Tasmanians were allowed to land. ROS Headquarters are the old buildings of the Quarantine Station where Indians on temporary visas are housed when they fly back to Australia. Currently its holding 13,000 "Australians".
Similar posts are hidden in the clifftops along the entire coast, but Bull thought .............
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.......is subjected to hours of blood tests, gene extraction, and bone measurements to the point where when he ambles down to the local pub he carefully steers away from all the females. "It's just not worth the effort" he said, and the whole front bar, some sporting bruises and black eyes, agreed with him. Bull decided to organise a ............
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.........got on the first plane to the Mainland and swore never to go to Tasmania again.
This, over the decades, resulted in the sparse population in Tasmania today. The inbreeding we all know about and have discussed many times, and that doesn't help, but when Bull goes shopping, it's not the casual walk down the street in Bone any more with lunch at the RSL. They don't have RSLs in Tasmania any more because people weren't returning from them and it was said that .............................
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Covid 19
in AUS/NZ General Discussion
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That's not correct, particularly with the Delta strain of Covid. In Victoria just a few weeks ago, people in country towns were spewing the same cracked logic. One publican even opened his pub and finished up with about $30,000 in fines.
However, within about three days five or six country towns, most a long way from Melbourne went down with infections. Mildura was testing thousands, and were able to knock the virus down. Shepparton are currently doing the same. In NSW Dubbo went into lockdown, I think yesterday, and from the Mayor's comments of the cooperation from all residents, will probably knockdown the infected cases in their city too. Just look how fast it got from Brisbane up the coast to Cairns.
By locking down a State for a short time the movement of the virus is stopped, the contact tracing identifies the method the virus is using and the Health Authorities can lift the lockdown, and just chase the carriers. The biggest threat to country people up the east coast is young people such as teachers and nurses going home from the Cities to the country for the wekend. They can finish a shift at 4 pm in Melbourne and be parked outside a pub having dinner in South Australia at 8:30 pm go to a part on Saturday night, back Sunday for work having lunch in Camperdown, having infected 5 or 6 people in country Victoria who in turn multiply that to about a dozen cases before the first person feels sick enough to get tested. There was the NT FIFO case - someone flew out to a mine in north central NT infected. The other shift flew out to various states the next day infected. One flew to his family in Adelaide infected, felt sick tested and the whole family self isolated, and saved South Australia from an outbreak. I'm living in the city, but by sticking within the 5 km limit, we shop at the one supermarket, service station, medical clinic etc. and get warnings if sites are infected, so by social distancing, hand sanitation, and seeing out the lockdowns, we're probably safer than country people who have a steady flow of expats and strangers into the district, or even talk over the fence without masks.