skippydiesel
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Turbs, Do you have any legal insight/comment on, what I believe is a requirement under Australian Consumer Law, to post (advertise, etc) the fees that may be levied/charged by an airfield management, should you use their facility??😈
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The above is now the question being asked (note the date). There have been some speculative debate on the topic Unfortunately some tangential stuff, that has almost no relation to the requirement to post all charges/fees, that has largely already been answered much earlier in this thread.😈
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NO! They do not own the airspace above the field. As long as you do not land (wheels touch the ground) you can not be charged. 😈
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You clearly have not read the proceeding threads. This is not about not making a payment for a landing. Nor is it about being billed for landings you did not make. It about knowing what payment will be levied for access/using the airfield. It my contention that all fees/charges for landing etc at an airfield MUST be easily available to the pilot BEFORE deciding to use that airport. I suggest that the above fees/conditions of use should be in ERSA Further - a pilot receiving an invoice for a landing , where no fees are advertised, can legitimately not pay. 😈
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As stated for the third time - both commendable efforts - to be applauded/admired. When/If I ever get to do my cross Australia trip, I am expecting/hoping for some assistance along the way (indeed have made contact with a few Clubs/individuals/ARO's to this end)- friendly fellow pilots to help with fuel acquisition, may be a hanger for the bird & a bed/floor for the pilot. There may even be the offer of a coffee/food. Who knows? The wise pilot will always consult with others regarding weather, safe rout, fuel, etc Need not be more experienced per say - discussion, brings diffrent perspective and, at least for me, is a way of checking my plans. I think (obviously you are a liberty to disagree) that there is considerable difference between receiving between no & some, help on the ground and the consistent assistance/comfort of a traveling support team. 😈
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As acknowledged however being "supported" for the entirety of the "big lap" does not have anywhere near the same demand, on the pilot, as doing it without support. Consider the segment logistics: Someone, other than the pilot, researches & organises the availability of fuel, food, ground transportation & accommodation. Sustenance, clothing, fuel may be carried by the supporting aircraft, giving the pilots aircraft greater range. Assist with, even preparation of flight plans. The non flying component forany long distance trip is huge. The assisted pilot is allowed to focus-on the flying alone. Not so for the truly solo effort. 😈
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I tried to get him interested - Noooo luck, so far😈
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Jennifer's parent flew with her in an other aircraft. Commendable but solo??? I think Rose might have done the job on her own.😈
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Hi Turbs, No idea what topic /point you are addressing here. How about you use your well known legal interest, to address the question of landing fees not being advertised.😈
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I accept your word that this is in fact the regulations / bureaucratic nonsense (aircraft registration determines flight training) BUT what are the reasons, if any, behind such an illogical ruling. I would like to revive my PPL currency (lapsed about 2 years ago). My strong preference (economic/familiarity) would be to the flight review in my own (RAA registered) aircraft. My Sonex has the potential to be GA registered and is compliant with entry to Controlled Airspace, having the necessary, recently checked, communication devises. What practical reasons can their be for not using my own aircraft, other than some bureaucratic "territory" (RAA v GA) ruling???? 😈
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This is a very "long bow" onetrack. I, along with most of you, are private pilots, exercising our right to access a publicly open/available facility. The only business in this equation is the facility supplier.😈
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I am aware that , along with many Australian laws, Consumer Law/Price advertising, is not universally/strongly enforced, that does not change the law itself. I made a tactical error - Not wanting to be pursued by AvData, I payed the requested fess - I should not have.😈
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Thanks Thruster - Great suggestions/options. Concerned about the changes in TO'B manufacture, I am researching for future repairs/maintenance. My brakes have only just over 200 Hobbs hours at this time & still look/work okay.😈
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Wow!!!!! The question was asked on the Sonex Forum. I as a Sonex owner & user of TO'B brakes didn't know the answer and for future needs, thought I should. Thank you for the AI answer - be interesting to see how acurate/helpful it is.😈
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True but thats not my beef. The airports listed, incommon with most, are open to the aviation public (us) ie access in not resricted. As such any terms conditions that are expected of the user (us) must be easily found/available ie published in ERSA. Its my contention, that failing to make fees readily available, renders the charger, in breech of the law. Any lawyers on the Forum???😈
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Anyone know where to source Tracy O’Brien brake parts (especially pads). 😈
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ERSA is an official document (regularly updated for accuracy) that all Australian pilots revere to for precise details on the airfield they may land at. There can be no excuse for not publishing airport fees, conditions of use, in ERSA😈
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Not so - ERSA under REMARKS, gives the following for : Dalby - "AD an AVDa Charges apply" - no amount conditions etc Armidale- "1. AD Charges: All ACFT" - as above no fee or details. Imagine if you pulled into a fuel station - no advertised $/L. After you filled up, they demanded say $10/L. You might feel a little taken advantage of. Not sure you are correct on this. My understanding is as stated earlier. Anyone offering a good/service must disclose the cost up front ie before good or service provided. In an airport context, the fees & schedule/conditions (weights, duration, etc) should be in ERSA - Some airports do give it all, some do not. Its my contention that if no fee is published, no fee can be legally demanded. I await the advice from our Forum legal experts. 😈
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Back to Landing Fees: Reference : ERSA It's come to my notice (two landings at two diffrent airfields) that some airfields state that they charge a landing feed but do not say what that fee is. I believe it is against Australian Consumer Law, to charge for any Good or Service, without disclosing the fee befor the Good or Service is provided. This makes sense, as accepting the published/posted fee, is tantamount to the customer (me) agreeing to a contract to pay the provider, for the good or service provided. No fee no contract! If I be correct (??) would it be appropriate to refuse payment, when AvData bill for the landing(s)?? 😈
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I may have this next speculation all wrong; At about the time of this accident, was it not common for airlines to give preferential training to "ab initio" applicants? My understanding of this term is, applicants with little or no prior (flight) training. The idea being that the airline flight school would train the aspiring pilot in their way/culture. In doing so the pilot would somehow be more appropriately skilled/safer An unforeseen by product of this is, that the new pilot may have had little or no time/experince in small aircraft. Small aircraft flying is often regarded as "seat of the pants" in that it instills basic responses to aircraft behaviour eg In a stall, lower the nose/add power. No airspeed indication , maintain straight & level add/decrease power , etc Captain Sullenberger of A380/Hudson River fame & glider pilot, is often sighted as an example of the desirability of those who advocate for commercial pilots having a grounding in small aircraft flying.😈
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Personal Locator Beacons
skippydiesel replied to pmccarthy's topic in Instruments, Radios and Electronics
Very similar looking to my GME 😈 -
And - Is that sand/earth drifting across the road - desert/coastal . I visited Rainbow Beach (Qld) a few years back, in my Zephyr. The Z had tyres much like a wheel barrow and struggled with the sand/soft going. There is no way my Sonex would get off the ground , assuming it survived the landing😈
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Without a ground inspection, might be okay in a STOL/big wheel/long travel suspension, job. For my Sonex, I would need either an in person or trusted/knowledgeable other, to do a pre use/landing report😈
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Perchance you did your RPL training in your RV7??? 😈
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I have received two emails, supposedly from RAA, this morning: "THE GOVERNMENT’S AUSCHECK FEE HIKES WON’T JUST IMPACT AVIATION" "Maxine Milera still needs you, ...." The emails include a request for money. Just had a conversation with RAA - not their emails 😈
