Blackhawk Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) A Concept I started back in 2020; did some work on it, then filed it. Pulled it out a couple of months ago and this is the result "A side by side 2 seat Canard design with exceptional vision" What are your thoughts? Edited March 10 by Blackhawk 3
Thruster88 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Went to the Tumut breakie a few weeks ago and actually saw a canard flying. 2 1
facthunter Posted March 17 Posted March 17 When an aeroplanes claimed main safety feature requires a pitch control be stalled to be activated, I don't buy it. Nev 1
Blackhawk Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 1 hour ago, facthunter said: When an aeroplanes claimed main safety feature requires a pitch control be stalled to be activated, I don't buy it. Nev Haven't got a clue what you mean, I only put up a concept drawing for comment. 1
FlyBoy1960 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, Blackhawk said: Haven't got a clue what you mean, I only put up a concept drawing for comment. Nice Drawing. 1 1
facthunter Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Do you assume no one will comment on it being a canard? Nev 1
facthunter Posted March 17 Posted March 17 You just KNOW. (someone will bring that up). What the Canard? Nev 1
Blackhawk Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, facthunter said: Do you assume no one will comment on it being a canard? Nev Not really, all the members make comments and that's what we're here for. Some people like canards some don't; personally I like all types of aircraft but canards always get a bad rap because of their poor vision, but every problem has an answer. My concept is the possible answer for that particular problem. Edited March 17 by Blackhawk 3
onetrack Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I was under the impression that canard wing setups were abandoned about the same time as wing warping, because a better design was thought up. If canards were such fantastic, award-winning designs, perhaps we'd have see more on regular commercial aircraft? Unsurprisingly, they only turn up on odd occasions, when someone advertises that they've thought of a new brilliant idea in aircraft design, and have produced a prototype or experimental model. A number of decades ago, there was a father-and-son team in W.A. (Deryck and Neil Graham), who were in business as "Composite Technology", who were convinced their Eagle 150 canard aircraft design was the dux nutz, and proceeded to manufacture a number of them. This was in the late 1980's, but by the late 1990's, with very few orders for their exotic machine forthcoming, they sold the design and manufacturing rights to the Eagle 150, to the Malaysians. The Malaysians poured multiple tens of millions more into the design, and they only ever sold a few more of the aircraft to their "captive" customer, the Malaysian Air Force - thus proving that the design is not world-beating, nor is it in demand. Composites Technology Research Malaysia has now become CTRM Holdings and provides a composites manufacturing facility for a few of the global aircraft manufacturers, manufacturing some of the composite components that go into the likes of Airbus and Boeing commercial aircraft. Canard aircraft production hardly rates a mention in Malaysia now. https://ctrm.com.my/our-offerings/ There are three military fighters that do use the canard design to a certain extent - the Saab Gripen, the Eurofighter Typhoon, and the Dassault Rafale. However, I suspect the addition of the canard to these three fighters, has little to do with any anti-stall characteristics of the canard, but more to do with assisting the delta wing with better control and lift, especially at low speeds. 1
BrendAn Posted March 17 Posted March 17 3 hours ago, Marty_d said: They canardly miss it... i had a rolls canhardly once 2 1
rgmwa Posted March 17 Posted March 17 5 hours ago, Blackhawk said: Haven't got a clue what you mean, I only put up a concept drawing for comment. I think he means that the canard is designed to stall before the main wing does which drops the nose so it starts flying properly again. Hence the safety feature label. 2 1
Student Pilot Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Yes a canard doesn't "stall", it's front wing/canard stops flying and the aircraft goes into a spiral dive that takes a LOT of height to recover. 1 1
IBob Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Blackhawk, you may like to look at the Barber Snark. It is tandem, not side by side, but with the passenger sat high with excellent outlook. A NZ design, but I believe there is one in Australia. It has received very positive reviews: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_Snark 1 1
IBob Posted March 18 Posted March 18 54 minutes ago, skippydiesel said: Very nice IBob BUT its not a canard 😈 Darn, I was hoping nobody would notice... Yet another plus, Skippy? 1 3
Marty_d Posted March 19 Posted March 19 But if a Peking duck sees anything, it should be sent back to the kitchen for more cooking... 1
facthunter Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Good thing isn't it. re the Canard concept. There was a time when I thought it was worthy of consideration. That was a while back. Nev 1
Blueadventures Posted March 20 Posted March 20 On 19/03/2026 at 9:56 AM, IBob said: Darn, I was hoping nobody would notice... Yet another plus, Skippy? Maybe if flown backwards and upside down? 🙃 1
BrendAn Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Have a look at the airspeed on this circuit. I can see why they have their followers. Rocket ships on low hp 1
facthunter Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Touched down a bit short. Submarine approach They need a lot of runway. Nev 1
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