CANARD CONCEPT

[Blackhawk]

A Concept I started back in 2020; did some work on it, then filed it.

 

Pulled it out a couple of months ago and this is the result "A side by side 2 seat Canard design with exceptional vision"

 

What are your thoughts?

 

 

 

Edited March 10 by Blackhawk

[facthunter]

Don't go there. Nev

[Thruster88]

Went to the Tumut breakie a few weeks ago and actually saw a canard flying. 

[facthunter]

When an aeroplanes claimed main safety feature requires a  pitch control be stalled to be activated, I don't buy it.  Nev

[Blackhawk]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

When an aeroplanes claimed main safety feature requires a  pitch control be stalled to be activated, I don't buy it.  Nev

Haven't got a clue what you mean, I only put up a concept drawing for comment. 

[FlyBoy1960]

10 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

Haven't got a clue what you mean, I only put up a concept drawing for comment. 

Nice Drawing.

[facthunter]

Do  you assume no one will comment on it being a canard? Nev

[Marty_d]

They canardly miss it...

[facthunter]

You just KNOW. (someone will bring that up).   What the Canard? Nev

[Blackhawk]

3 hours ago, facthunter said:

Do  you assume no one will comment on it being a canard? Nev

Not really, all the members make comments and that's what we're here for.

Some people like canards some don't; personally I like all types of aircraft but canards always

get a bad rap because of their poor vision, but every problem has an answer. 

My concept is the possible answer for that particular problem.

Edited Tuesday at 08:44 AM by Blackhawk

[onetrack]

I was under the impression that canard wing setups were abandoned about the same time as wing warping, because a better design was thought up.

 

If canards were such fantastic, award-winning designs, perhaps we'd have see more on regular commercial aircraft?

 

Unsurprisingly, they only turn up on odd occasions, when someone advertises that they've thought of a new brilliant idea in aircraft design, and have produced a prototype or experimental model.

 

A number of decades ago, there was a father-and-son team in W.A. (Deryck and Neil Graham), who were in business as "Composite Technology", who were convinced their Eagle 150 canard aircraft design was the dux nutz, and proceeded to manufacture a number of them.

This was in the late 1980's, but by the late 1990's, with very few orders for their exotic machine forthcoming, they sold the design and manufacturing rights to the Eagle 150, to the Malaysians.

 

The Malaysians poured multiple tens of millions more into the design, and they only ever sold a few more of the aircraft to their "captive" customer, the Malaysian Air Force - thus proving that the design is not world-beating, nor is it in demand.

 

Composites Technology Research Malaysia has now become CTRM Holdings and provides a composites manufacturing facility for a few of the global aircraft manufacturers, manufacturing some of the composite components that go into the likes of Airbus and Boeing commercial aircraft. Canard aircraft production hardly rates a mention in Malaysia now.

 

https://ctrm.com.my/our-offerings/

 

There are three military fighters that do use the canard design to a certain extent - the Saab Gripen, the Eurofighter Typhoon, and the Dassault Rafale.

However,  I suspect the addition of the canard to these three fighters, has little to do with any anti-stall characteristics of the canard, but more to do with assisting the delta wing with better control and lift, especially at low speeds.

 

 

[BrendAn]

3 hours ago, Marty_d said:

They canardly miss it...

i had a rolls canhardly once

[rgmwa]

5 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

Haven't got a clue what you mean, I only put up a concept drawing for comment. 

I think he means that the canard is designed to stall before the main wing does which drops the nose so it starts flying properly again. Hence the safety feature label. 

[Student Pilot]

Yes a canard doesn't "stall", it's front wing/canard stops flying and the aircraft goes into a spiral dive that takes a LOT of height to recover.

[IBob]

Blackhawk, you may like to look at the Barber Snark. It is tandem, not side by side, but with the passenger sat high with excellent outlook. A NZ design, but I believe there is one in Australia. It has received very positive reviews:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_Snark

 

[skippydiesel]

Very nice IBob  BUT its not a canard 😈

[IBob]

54 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Very nice IBob  BUT its not a canard 😈

Darn, I was hoping nobody would notice...
Yet another plus, Skippy?

[facthunter]

A Peeking duck sees everything. Nev

[Marty_d]

But if a Peking duck sees anything, it should be sent back to the kitchen for more cooking...

[facthunter]

Good thing isn't it. re the Canard concept. There was a time when I thought it was worthy of consideration. That was a while back.  Nev