Brisbane control line club

[danny_galaga]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

I never built anything as Basic as your Control line Plane there. It would be a little boring wouldn't it?  Grass a bit long in places. Nev

Yes, you've enjoyed telling me that a couple of times now. It's a 1/2a speed model. 049. KISS baby, KISS.

[facthunter]

I don't Know if I've ENJOYED saying what I have , I've never seen an engine of that size used in control line .  We considered the control lines  would have too much drag. I'm interested. Don't take it as a "snob" thing as it wasn't intended as such.. Nev

[danny_galaga]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

I don't Know if I've ENJOYED saying what I have , I've never seen an engine of that size used in control line .  We considered the control lines  would have too much drag. I'm interested. Don't take it as a "snob" thing as it wasn't intended as such.. Nev

049 is the classic beginners engine. But for all the reasons you imagine, they really aren't great for beginners. The reason they were so popular is price. Personally, I think a .10 is a useful minimum size for CL. My first CL model as a kid was a .15. which I still have. You aren't wrong though, since this plane (which I built over 20 years ago) isn't aerobatic it's not exactly exciting 😄. I didn't even have any other propellers to tune it. I have some now.

If you think this plane is simple, wait until you see my current project 😄

 

We are doing a club 1/2a combat class. Made from one 3d printed mount, that I've reverse engineered (ie, stole the design) and one piece of core flute with a 3mm carbon fibre rod inserted. Took me about 1 hour to draw up and cut out 😀. Again 049. I believe the design isn't particularly aerobatic, but I've identified a few things I can improve. It has to be really simple, to get hands on handles. I just have to adjust the mount now because I didn't allow for shrinkage. Probably go about 2% larger. I'll post a pic when it's all done 🙂

 

Edited Friday at 12:37 AM by danny_galaga

[danny_galaga]

This is actually the last model I built, about three years ago. I didn't go hard core with proper FAI rubber, just the rubber in the kit so it didn't fly far or long. Just as well, I was just using a football field. I would have lost it 😄

I have much better photos somewhere, but here's a screenshot shot from FB 🙂

[facthunter]

 A good CHUCK Glider can easily get lost on a thermally day if trimmed right.  Nev

[planedriver]

OMG! This post brings back so many distant memeories, From running many miles to get a flyaway aircraft and cremating crashes of the day.

I still wear a bit of a scar where I got hit on the cheek bone just missing my eye with an aluminium spinner I did'nt see coming on a free flight model that was coming into land.

Edited Sunday at 05:35 AM by planedriver

[Blueadventures]

59 minutes ago, planedriver said:

OMG! This post brings back so many distant memeories, From running many miles to get a flyaway aircraft and cremating crashes of the day.

I still wear a bit of a scar where I got hit on the cheek bone just missing my eye with an aluminium spinner I did'nt see coming on a free flight model that was coming into land.

Yep, racing, landing, catching, refuelling, restarting and rejoining, then over taking or being overtaken, what fun, laughs and confusion, getting giddy; down at a local park.  Then the combat sorties.

Edited Sunday at 06:23 AM by Blueadventures

[facthunter]

I've been looking up a lot of the MODEL engines that were made.  VERY INTERESTING.  recommended. I still have a Bit of what I Had but collectors persuaded me to Part with quite a Few. You need to Look after them carefully. Not good tor Run Old ones as the metal can age Harden. I know a few KEEN collectors.. One sometimes comes to the Men's shed. His FATHER built Beaufort's at GAF. Drove a car till he was 100. His Father and I used to Have LONG discussions about aircraft design and Build quality. Nev

Edited Sunday at 07:23 AM by facthunter

[danny_galaga]

As promised, the beginner class 1/2a combat model made from core flute. The only part that is glued is the lead out guide. Engine mount is 3D printed and attached with three screws. 

 

I couldn't easily find a glow clip to suit Cox. On Lucky Lil 7 I just used alligator clips because that version is beam mounted so was easy to just clip onto an engine mount bolt. So I decided to channel the olden days and made one from a clothes peg 😊. Didn't have any handy sized wire kicking around so will finish it off during the week.

[facthunter]

ALL the Little Motors I used were Diesels. I never had any Cox's.  Anything over  1.5 cc  was Glow Plug Usually 5 cc FROG 500. K&B.29 OS 29. ETA 19. McCOY 19.Testor corp( Piece of crap).  I've probably forgotten a few;  The OS 29 I still have with a lot of use It's STILL Good. Nev

[danny_galaga]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

ALL the Little Motors I used were Diesels. I never had any Cox's.  Anything over  1.5 cc  was Glow Plug Usually 5 cc FROG 500. K&B.29 OS 29. ETA 19. McCOY 19.Testor corp( Piece of crap).  I've probably forgotten a few;  The OS 29 I still have with a lot of use It's STILL Good. Nev

I have a soft spot for OS ☺️

 

Funny thing with this club model is that the idea is everyone has a radial mounted 049 kicking around. Except me! I ended up buying a new one from Cox in Canada. I believe they are essentially building new ones from unused parts. Once that runs out it'll definitely be over.

[rgmwa]

We used OS motors, mostly. I still have an unused OS40 FSR in the box and a 0.15, 0.25. and 0.35. One of our group was into team racing and used a couple of Super Tigres or Oliver Tigers. Can't remember which now but his planes were works of art. I flew one of his models once while he was tuning it for competition and we clocked it at 131kph. 

[danny_galaga]

1 hour ago, rgmwa said:

We used OS motors, mostly. I still have an unused OS40 FSR in the box and a 0.15, 0.25. and 0.35. One of our group was into team racing and used a couple of Super Tigres or Oliver Tigers. Can't remember which now but his planes were works of art. I flew one of his models once while he was tuning it for competition and we clocked it at 131kph. 

I will relieve you of the os40 for the right price 😊

[rgmwa]

Thanks, but it's such a nice pristine looking motor that I'm a bit reluctant to part with it at the moment. I bought it some years ago thinking I might try RC. I bought a Pilot C182 kit (60in span) way back in the late 1970's that I finished to covering stage but never fully completed as life got in the way. The plane gradually deteriorated through family life and several house moves, but I still have the original plans and hardware, so I could scratch build it. I bought a JR F500 R/C set about the same time as the OS intending to rebuild it, but so far it's still a future project. I uploaded the plans to this very useful site in 2014. Just checked again now and see that someone has very helpfully scanned and scaled the part profiles. Scroll down to the end of the link to download the plans.

Oz : Cessna 182 Skylane plan - free download

OUTERZONE.CO.UK

 

 

Edited Monday at 04:49 AM by rgmwa

[facthunter]

I always liked the Enya, (Also Japanese) for it's better external appearance but the OS 29 Performed very well, A few of my mates Purchased the FOX 35 which is a great Combat Motor but with a tendency to lose compression after a while. We did high times on our combat Motors.  They weren't static exhibits. There's a HINESS 09 glow motor here too and an ED Superfury. and a new albon Merlin,  and a Taipan 1.5 (missing a spraybar). AND another Big Glo thing I made Myself. Nev

[Marty_d]

I saw a fibreglass model speedboat hull in the tip shop a few years back, bought it and turned it into an airboat - mounted an Enya 15 with tractor prop and 2 big rudders behind it. Went like a cut cat.

Edited Monday at 05:25 AM by Marty_d

[facthunter]

I had a Tomboy on Floats  (Freeflight) with my first engine A Frog 150 and flew it at Killaben bay Just Opposite Rathmines ramp. You sure get a lot of rowing practice. Any residual water in it anywhere and she would spiral in. Don't bother  doing it, I advise.. Nev

[planedriver]

Talking of motors, I made a 46inch RAF crash fire tender boat radio controlled with an 8cc Taplin Twin diesel in it. What a beautiful motor that was, so smoth running and powerful.

Today they fetch a small fortune among engine enthusiasts.

It was great for chasing the ducks on Wimbledon Common.🦆🦆

[danny_galaga]

I couldn't readily get hold of a glow clip for my new radial mount 049, so I hearkened back to the olden days and made my own from stuff that was kicking around ☺️

[planedriver]

That's great Danny.

Necessity is the mother of invention they say.

Keeps the fingers away from the area that bites..

[facthunter]

Just about doubled the DRAG. Nev

[BrendAn]

13 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Just about doubled the DRAG. Nev

 You take it off once the motor fires ,😅

Edited 18 hours ago by BrendAn

[facthunter]

Now I see, said the Blind Man. Nev

[danny_galaga]

1 hour ago, BrendAn said:

 You take it off once the motor fires ,😅

Ohlsson was still the shizz when Nev was a teenager 😆

[facthunter]

Not really, The Ohlsson (spark ignition) Motor there was out of date Long before got a Motor. A FROG 150, about 1953. I can't recall what became of it. I only flew it control line, Once. It would have been free flight after that.   Maybe it thermalled away?  Nev

Edited 16 hours ago by facthunter
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