RAAus head office.

[facthunter]

Not at all. I used to grow wine grapes, and I always say wait till the enquiry is over before reaching conclusions . Nev

[Keith Page]

On 30/05/2025 at 7:11 PM, Red said:

Jeez, you just completely contradicted yourself within 2 posts

Not a bother he is just like the rest of the crowd.

[facthunter]

What's THAT about, Keith?   Nev

[John Tull]

Raaus absolutely slammed in Coroners report.  I think this is why the changes occurred in the office.

 

Credibility with the ATSB, Courts and CASA must be at an all time low.  Interesting that this hasn't been mentioned in the communications.

 

 

https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/inquests-findings/findings?combine=farrel

Edited September 6 by John Tull

[KRviator]

So they were referred to the DPP - did anything come of that? Anyone from RAAus HQ charged with perjury?

[John Tull]

Not yet.

[jackc]

On 29/5/2025 at 5:39 PM, Keith Page said:

Head office is so very quiet despite the rumors which are falling off the grape.

We got told there is going to be a news release shortly ----- BUT ----- we are all just waiting.

Better coming from the horse's mouth than off the grape vine.  

If you want good news, go to the SAAA site, the latest is you can change to  VH rego and maintain your own aircraft even if you didn’t build it, pass the SAA course get the certificate, go to Casa who will issue you an authority to be a maintainer of your own aircraft. 🤩

 

[PureCaboose]

14 minutes ago, jackc said:

If you want good news, go to the SAAA site, the latest is you can change to  VH rego and maintain your own aircraft even if you didn’t build it, pass the SAA course get the certificate, go to Casa who will issue you an authority to be a maintainer of your own aircraft. 🤩

 

Is this still only 19 and 28 registered aircraft?

[T510]

13 minutes ago, jackc said:

If you want good news, go to the SAAA site, the latest is you can change to  VH rego and maintain your own aircraft even if you didn’t build it, pass the SAA course get the certificate, go to Casa who will issue you an authority to be a maintainer of your own aircraft. 🤩

 

Don't hold your breath, CASA part 43 is still only proposed and the current scheduled release is Q4 2028

[jackc]

When you go VH the CASA rules apply, when you get your SAAA Maintainers Course certificate, take that to CASA, and they issue your Mantainers Authority and it does not matter IF your aircraft is Amateur or Factory built.

CASA has approved the legislative instrument, for this to happen, there will be more side benefits to this, SAAA are announcing all details at their Narromine FlyIn 4-5 October ‘25. 

[jackc]

SAAA are holding their first beta course for 10 applicants at the flyin 4-5th October.

Apparently SAAA have been swamped for bookings and are now in the process of planning courses in other parts of Australia. 
Additionally RAA Instructors will be able to teach RPL under SAAA, soon. 
At least Aviation is moving in a very positive direction 🤩

[jackc]

Another piece of news, SAAA have now purchased rights for the Freedom Formation Team to perform at any FlyIn, under the SAAA banner. 
I believe they will be performing at Parkes? 
 

[T510]

 

12 minutes ago, jackc said:

When you go VH the CASA rules apply, when you get your SAAA Maintainers Course certificate, take that to CASA, and they issue your Mantainers Authority and it does not matter IF your aircraft is Amateur or Factory built.

CASA has approved the legislative instrument, for this to happen, there will be more side benefits to this, SAAA are announcing all details at their Narromine FlyIn 4-5 October ‘25. 

There is going to be 5 classes of Aircraft maintenance technician certificate, depending on the class you can have different maintenance privileges.

 

https://www.casa.gov.au/rules/regulatory-framework/casr/part-43-casr-maintenance-aircraft-private-and-aerial-work-operations#Extensiveconsultation

 

Hopefully CASA release it in a reasonable timeframe.

 

This is a great thing, especially after RAAus stuffed up Group G by not allowing owner maintenance

[jackc]

2 minutes ago, T510 said:

 

There is going to be 5 classes of Aircraft maintenance technician certificate, depending on the class you can have different maintenance privileges.

 

https://www.casa.gov.au/rules/regulatory-framework/casr/part-43-casr-maintenance-aircraft-private-and-aerial-work-operations#Extensiveconsultation

 

Hopefully CASA release it in a reasonable timeframe.

 

This is a great thing, especially after RAAus stuffed up Group G by not allowing owner maintenance

SAAA have been swamped  by many people wanting to go to VH Rego.  All you need is a cancellation certificate from RAA, then you pay a once off to CASA for callsign, pay SAAA membership, and fly away happy 😊 

[T510]

RAAus was always going to be a stepping stone for me, at least it gives you access to cheaper training

[jackc]

13 minutes ago, T510 said:

RAAus was always going to be a stepping stone for me, at least it gives you access to cheaper training

Not anymore, ring around some flying schools for rates?

My original flying school now charges $250 for a TIF 🤢

[Blueadventures]

32 minutes ago, T510 said:

 

There is going to be 5 classes of Aircraft maintenance technician certificate, depending on the class you can have different maintenance privileges.

 

https://www.casa.gov.au/rules/regulatory-framework/casr/part-43-casr-maintenance-aircraft-private-and-aerial-work-operations#Extensiveconsultation

 

Hopefully CASA release it in a reasonable timeframe.

 

This is a great thing, especially after RAAus stuffed up Group G by not allowing owner maintenance

Perhaps in time an RAAus member who completes the maintainer training via SAAA or direct to Tafe will in time be able to maintain their own Group G; I don't know just looks possible to me.  I like the insurance RAA has included and I'm only at 600kg myself.

[jackc]

4 minutes ago, Blueadventures said:

Perhaps in time an RAAus member who completes the maintainer training via SAAA or direct to Tafe will in time be able to maintain their own Group G; I don't know just looks possible to me.  I like the insurance RAA has included and I'm only at 600kg myself.

You can’t have a foot in both camps. It’s one of the other and you get the benefits from the organisation you choose and your registration type..  I always asked RAA if you could progress from a Level 1 AND  there was no pathway to do it, AND  there still isn’t'.
I could never figure that out. But with SAAA  you have a path to go to and be able to maintain your own aircraft whether you built it or not, is  a key advantage with them.

Plus, VH rego has no ongoing cost. 

[T510]

4 minutes ago, Blueadventures said:

Perhaps in time an RAAus member who completes the maintainer training via SAAA or direct to Tafe will in time be able to maintain their own Group G; I don't know just looks possible to me.  I like the insurance RAA has included and I'm only at 600kg myself.

IT would require a rewrite of the regulations, currently only A CASA Part 66 licence holder (LAME) with the relevant licence categories can maintain Group G. You can't even use a L2

[T510]

3 minutes ago, jackc said:

You can’t have a foot in both camps. It’s one of the other and you get the benefits from the organisation you choose and your registration type..  I always asked RAA if you could progress from a Level 1 AND  there was no pathway to do it, AND  there still isn’t'.
I could never figure that out. But with SAAA  you have a path to go to and be able to maintain your own aircraft whether you built it or not, is  a key advantage with them.

Plus, VH rego has no ongoing cost. 

The pathway to a L2 is Cert II in Aeroskills, 12 months experience, and 2 L2 referees who are happy to say you are competent.

 

I am trying to get RAAus to clarify the number of hours experience instead of saying 12 months (12 months full time = ~1900 hours which would take me years to achieve)

[Blueadventures]

10 minutes ago, T510 said:

IT would require a rewrite of the regulations, currently only A CASA Part 66 licence holder (LAME) with the relevant licence categories can maintain Group G. You can't even use a L2

Agree that's why I said perhaps in time. 

[pmccarthy]

Just got the latest RAAus email news and I offer the following edits:

 

"RAAus is proud to announce"...naaa, "pleased to announce" is better. Save pride for important things.

"in a Super Petrol amphibian"...naaa, it's Petrel.

 

The newsletter is fine, these are very minor niggles, but why wouldn't a communication like this get a final edit?

 

Or am I too picky?

 

[BrendAn]

7 hours ago, T510 said:

 

There is going to be 5 classes of Aircraft maintenance technician certificate, depending on the class you can have different maintenance privileges.

 

https://www.casa.gov.au/rules/regulatory-framework/casr/part-43-casr-maintenance-aircraft-private-and-aerial-work-operations#Extensiveconsultation

 

Hopefully CASA release it in a reasonable timeframe.

 

This is a great thing, especially after RAAus stuffed up Group G by not allowing owner maintenance

I don't see the point of group g for VH pilots once casa brought in the class 5 medical. Raaus must have lost a lot of potential converts.

Fair enough for raaus pilots that want to upgrade mtow I suppose.

[T510]

15 hours ago, BrendAn said:

I don't see the point of group g for VH pilots once casa brought in the class 5 medical. Raaus must have lost a lot of potential converts.

Fair enough for raaus pilots that want to upgrade mtow I suppose.

Group G would have been worthwhile if you could maintain your own aircraft, without that I can't see any appeal at all 

[Blueadventures]

15 minutes ago, T510 said:

Group G would have been worthwhile if you could maintain your own aircraft, without that I can't see any appeal at all 

Seems medical was the main draw card and Class 5 medical pretty much fills that gap for VH now.

Edited 11 hours ago by Blueadventures