A young person having a go.

[Thruster88]

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/6007551/from-idea-to-reality-bob-finally-ready-for-world-record-flight/?fbclid=IwAR0TbBwfmZbQexCGD8SemBHZIth4YUhy-RpKblJK8qvfLp2-tTkcPGk9-T0

 

Good luck Bob.

 

 

[Downunder]

Originally planned for January?  Well, that was a mistake from the start. 

 

Might be fine weather in Devonport, but not so much the rest of Aus....

 

Good luck to him anyway...

 

 

[Jaba-who]

Originally planned for January?  Well, that was a mistake from the start. 

Might be fine weather in Devonport, but not so much the rest of Aus....

 

Good luck to him anyway...

Not knocking him, I’m happy for anyone to do this sort of stuff, but yep. 

 

Ive read a few stories about this type of circumnavigation and I think all of them ended up being “multipart” trips in the end due to having to stop because of  seasonal bad weather in one  place or other. 

 

The first book of these types of thing I read was the guy who flew the first R22 helicopter round Oz. If I recall he did part one year and finished it the next. Stopped at some point due weather which lasted for weeks and he had to go back to work etc. so came back a year or something later and picked up where he stopped. 

 

Our flying group used to do a 10 day trip somewhere across Oz every year for a decade or so in the the early 2000s and it was always a problem of juggling opposite weather pattern at opposite ends of the country. 

 

 

[FlyingVizsla]

If you aim to be the youngest, you have to aim for the closest date to your birthday, or you risk leaving a window of opportunity for someone marginally younger to take your record.  If you are at school, you aim for school holidays.  The compulsion to go ASAP could over-ride good decision making; so I applaud his decision to delay.   Good on him for having a go.

 

 

[Downunder]

How I imagine doing it. (Talking about a circumnavigation, not a tour)

 

I would plan on doing it hard and fast taking advantage of good weather. When you have good weather it can only turn in one direction, bad.

 

I've been caught before, stopping early afternoon in fine weather. The next day it's blowy and some passing showers.

 

Cursed myself for not pushing on to the next stop the day before.

 

Lesson learned. If the weathers good....fly!

 

Definately in the northern dry season.

 

The direction would depend on the current weather. 

 

If poor in the south, head north first and hope it's better when you get around or at least forcast to improve.

 

If good in the south, kick off at first light and get as far as you can each day.

 

Looks like he has a 172.... good and bad?

 

More stable and comfortable cruising but probable can't (won't) get into roadhouses for ulp/accomodation ...

 

How would you do it?

 

 

[FlyingVizsla]

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He departed this morning, landed at Flinders Is, now about to land at Lakes Entrance Vic.

 

 

[FlyingVizsla]

Bob Bramley is over half way - left Tassie, Vic, NSW, Qld, NT behind - now heading for Port Headland WA. Not sure what is going on (weather?) as after Darwin he has been flying in the afternoon rather than early morning in the Eastern States. Has been making good time. Had a day off in Darwin, but foot to the floor for the rest of it.

 

Unfortunately he won't be breaking the record as someone got in before him in Sept 2018. Not entirely sure what the issue was, but has something to do with supported and unsupported. He was claiming the youngest unsupported - so perhaps this is immaterial and it is simply the youngest (regardless). Had he left in January he would have claimed the record. But, as I have said before, Good on him for making that decision in the face of adverse weather (and insufficient funding) and not been caught up in Push-on-Itis.

 

Sue

 

 

[FlyingVizsla]

Bob Bramley is now in Bendigo, heading to Tyabb Vic, expecting to be home in Davenport Tassie 11am Wednesday. Seems to have not hit a snag anywhere. After Tyabb, he has 5 stops around Tasmania.

 

 

[Thruster88]

Bob Bramley is now in Bendigo, heading to Tyabb Vic, expecting to be home in Davenport Tassie 11am Wednesday. Seems to have not hit a snag anywhere. After Tyabb, he has 5 stops around Tasmania.

He is flying a 45 year old 172, any snags have been AD out of it and it has lycoming power. Love the 172M.

 

 

[red750]

Back home in Devonport, greeted by his Mum and girlfriend. Well done, young fellow.

 

 

[Yenn]

Well done. I wonder what happened to the young Yank who was trying to get the FAA to allow him to get his licence before he was legally old enough, so that he could get a load of youngest firsts. Last I heard about a month ago was nothing.

 

It wouldn't be beyond the Yanks to OK that type of thing to get their own into the record books. They tried to sabotage Jon Johansen at the South pole by denying him fuel, but an English woman pilot had fuel there which she allowed him to use.

 

 

[Thruster88]

Well done. I wonder what happened to the young Yank who was trying to get the FAA to allow him to get his licence before he was legally old enough, so that he could get a load of youngest firsts. Last I heard about a month ago was nothing.

 

It wouldn't be beyond the Yanks to OK that type of thing to get their own into the record books. They tried to sabotage Jon Johansen at the South pole by denying him fuel, but an English woman pilot had fuel there which she allowed him to use.

The FAA would not be taking any chances after needless crash that killed Jessica Dubroff, not they they would have been involved with that one.

 

 

[Thruster88]

The pilot in the Baron crash near Angurugu NT this week has been named as Bob Bramley. RIP. 

[RFguy]

any adsb logs ?

[BurnieM]

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/577402

 

[Methusala]

If this overwhelming tragedy was caused by engine failure over open water, it just emphasises my strongly held conviction that crossing any terrain where survival chances are remote is foolhardy. Single powerplants will always be open to failure.  I can't say that's the cause but I feel comfortable advancing this view.

[T510]

19 minutes ago, Methusala said:

If this overwhelming tragedy was caused by engine failure over open water, it just emphasises my strongly held conviction that crossing any terrain where survival chances are remote is foolhardy. Single powerplants will always be open to failure.  I can't say that's the cause but I feel comfortable advancing this view.

Baron is a twin and will fly on one engine so unless both fans stopped it would suggest it may be something else

[Reynard]

 

21 minutes ago, Methusala said:

If this overwhelming tragedy was caused by engine failure over open water, it just emphasises my strongly held conviction that crossing any terrain where survival chances are remote is foolhardy. Single powerplants will always be open to failure.  I can't say that's the cause but I feel comfortable advancing this view.

The Baron aircraft is a twin.

[Methusala]

I didn't read deeply enough, sorry,Don 

[Garfly]

Ch. 7 report today.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUgShHiKpMQ

[RFguy]

as an excellent twin aircraft ,  and young pilots tend to be from my experience, very much on the ball, we can only WILDLY speculate and nothing else to the cause of this accident. IE pure imagination only.....

 

 - commercial service twin maintenance is a step above private cessnas  (IMO) 

- maybe he hit some space junk , a drone  or had a brain anurism. who knows.

 

if I ever fall out of clear  sky you can be pretty sure either I had some rapid physical  incapacitation or a mid air collision.

 

Stuart, is there enough flexibility in the Baron's pitch control to override a jam in either the yoke piitch or trim run ? I dont know that end of that plane. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by RFguy

[facthunter]

It could also be a bird strike, Something like A pelican would go right through the Windscreen.  Nev