turboplanner

You make some good points AC. Time for a close look at the causes.

Your figures work out to 23 fatalities per year, and given that we wouldn't expect to hear much about HGFA crashes, most fatals make the news, so I think your figures may be too high.

Yes, at least two I think, one a couple of days ago where the pilot didn't just float gently to earth.

Some people seem to think the only thing you need to learn is how to handle controls - I haven't seen anything mentioned about Meteorology, Navigation, Performance and Operation or for that matter chute profiles, chute stall etc, and I notice no one seems to have dug very deeply into the PPC site where a lot of information is available.

What a load of bullsh!t!!!!!!

General Macarthur was in charge of the occupation of Japan and within days had groups of people waiting to see him go out for lunch so they could pay their respects, and within months he was a hero to the people of Japan for the empathy he showed in his day to day dealings.

It was largely due to his understanding of the people and country and the new constitution he gave them that turned Japan into the powerhouse we see today.

......the rest of the Rat Pack who spent most nights at the BOB, ..........

Yes, although I don't think he knows that, but then he goes on to connect pilots flying on a driver's licence medical with:1. the alleged fears suddenly created in nameless professional pilots as a result of allowing RPL pilots into the air

 

2. pointing out the `unfortunate timing' just 6 months prior the airbus pilot's murderous suicide (hard to see the connection there, but he's trying to make one anyway)

 

3. implying that RPL holders may well be nutcases likely to bring airliners down with their winged weapons

 

4. ignoring the constraints that CASA has applied to prevent many people from actually getting the GP medical (obviously hasn't done his research)

 

5. Quoting (more likely misquoting) some clinical psychologist saying that while we can't really be sure that depressed commercial pilots won't slip though the screening process, that's not too much of a problem because the real psychopaths will probably be found among the ranks of the recreational fliers

 

6. That a tougher medical would weed out a third of recreational pilots (wasn't that the reason for introducing the `drivers licence medical'?)

 

7. Stating (without specific examples of course) that some pilots (presumably not just rec pilots, and maybe not even qualified pilots) have deliberately crashed into buildings and killed people (so he obviously saw the twin towers footage at least)

 

8. Summing up his enlightening article with a CASA spokesperson's comment that in fact recreational pilots are asked some basic psychological screening questions, thereby helping to refute one of the main points he was trying to make.

 

The whole thing is an incoherent mish-mash, and the less airplay it gets the better. However it wouldn't do any harm, although would probably be a waste of time, to sent this poorly informed reporter an email pointing out a few of his errors.

 

rgmwa

the "one policy wonders" and so on who send emails to the newspapers, usually along the lines that "the sky is falling". The vast majority are simply binned but now and again one gets up.

Based on your points above, I wonder which section of the industry the source of this story came from???????????

Should this be given oxygen then you don't think there could be a flow on? Only takes one of the no policy senators trying to make a name for themselves to give this rot underserved credibility.

The person making the forced landing had a radio.

Moorabbin has a tower.

The person taxying had a radio.

The person making the forced landing had right of way

Sure there's plenty of grass ozzie, but it's not an all over field and there are some deep gutters and culverts - I wold not pick the grass.

Sounds to me as if the taxying pilot missed the incoming aircraft or tower transmissions or both, or maybe had switched to ground frequency early as some do.

You realise he is writing about the RPL, not the majority of you people offended?

Trouble is they don't, and they are the ones which seem most determined to spread their message; the character traits seem to go together.

"What's wrong with the Trilander! bristled Odoo, particularly compared to that horrible thing you built, which had more bog in it that the Dartmoor Moor, and no only that but............."

"are descended from the doodoo tribe in one of the deep valleys in Papua, and who gave the world the name "Cargo Cult" by climbing to the peaks of the mountains and building aircraft made of sticks, and putting out food to attract the Americans back after the War."

It nearly worked too; General Macarthur is quoted as saying "I need more aircraft, and that roast pork looks great from 15,000 feet".

Not to be deterred, the doodoo tribe wrote a letter to that Great Visionary, Gough Whitlam, outlining their skills at aircraft identification, and he immediately brought them into the country as refugees, putting them up at the Canberra Rex (which still has a doodoo carving in the front foyer), and setting up a body called CA.........................

'''they don't pray, although they do pray on some who keep their airplanes in hangers, and........"

[ATTACH=full]34998[/ATTACH]I really hope that forum members don't mind, or are not offended in any way when I post pictures of those who have died in aircraft accidents.

 

I do it because I think it is important to see the human side of aircraft crashes, which usually don't figure in the cold, hard statistics you see about aircraft incidents.

The fact that he'd been making a practice of beating up the field every time departed, or beating up the local beach, or turning the engine off on base to show his exceptional skills, all seem to be forgotten.

Flying is very safe, as long as you don't make a mistake.

Having said that, in this particular case, while we usually point the finger at get home itis, I'm of the opinion that we are not getting enough weather training in the syllabus, to enable us to be 100% sure which weather patterns are going to close in on us. To me our current regulation, based on forward visibility allows plenty of time to turn around, but the next question is what has crept in behind us.

I must just add a rider to the last post,. . .In the UK, we have an IMC rating,. . . . this is a course consisting of fifteen hours of training to fly on instruments. This is NOT. . .an INSTRUMENT RATING . . .that will take a lot longer to achieve.But, at least it IS a start,. . .it allows pilots to fly through cloud EN ROUTE, But not to PLAN a flight KNOWING that there will be cloud en route. . .

Our Night VFR rating used to be on the bucket list for just about all Private Pilots, but the realisation set in that it was probably more likely to cause accidents than save them, and it's not as popular today as flight planning for a landing before last light.

"....throwing discs, shown here with their patented carrying pouch designed to clip to the side of a camel (where camels have suitable clips on their sides).

"These discs were invented by the middle eastern warrior Kubla Khan at the time when the East was slim and didn't have a middle..

"The discs are a metre in diameter and weigh 100 kilograms, and were not popular with the troops who had to throw them, but they sure shortened........"

"they don't fly under 500 feet unless there's a caravan park below, and......."

.........commemorate yet another Strict Liability conviction, and next thing you know the office girl is out there warning perfectly good pilots that unless..........

It is. But the sentiment In the chorus keeps cropping up here. ;-)

So where is it being shared then?

".....Ramp check you."

For some reason Andy's thought turned to a red hot branding iron, still smoking from the...................

...........peach pip spitting contest which consistently draws a crowd of spitters and line dancers twice the size of whoever organizes those flying thingys - you know, not the 747s but the little ones, because......

Well, believe it or not there should be a substantial database of failures for you to prove out your theories in the NTSB files.

Hint - the Insurers always seem to know the odds.

what I see in the photo I posted is a prop unbroken and the nose of the aircraft undamaged - so the cockpit area was not tested. On the other hand the components which hit the trees were smashed to pieces.

This does not confirm crash-worthiness, just that the aircraft luckily connected the trees with non-safety components and that washed off its speed to virtually zero.

.....why we drive all that way to sit on the balcony of an empty hangar when there's no runway (it's on Loxie "Bush Block" - 40,000 hectare section of scrub where there's no clear space to land a cricket ball), and no aircraft in the hangar, has never been explained by The Lox, who................

I was referring the person to his own site, not any particular subject matter that came up.

Try clicking on APPA Home and go from there.