turboplanner

2 hours ago, poteroo said:

And that is the reason we all need both good training, plus regular currency.

 

I think I read a while back the average annual hours of RA pilots is 3 hours.

Would it be wise to teach low level flying under those conditions?

Since we switched to Visibility 5 km (5000 m) ahead, I think the fatality rate has dropped significantly. In GA we don't seem to get that batch of people killed around May, and given all those people were trained for hours under the hood, I would suggest the 5 km visibility is the more significant life saver of the two.

There's also the factor that in RA there is very little cross country flying, and in particular flights from Victoria to Queensland or vice versa where you need to manage the flight to suit two or three weather changes. 

16 minutes ago, facthunter said:

You entirely Missed my Point there. (as unfortunately. you often do.) .  I don't want to live in YOUR Aviation world, turbs. Warbirds have an emerging world of pain with costs and safety of old components. There was a change of the regulations  with warbirds Instigated by Darren Chester about 10 years ago so some Pollies have a try.  They have an easy access website and a low cost joining option. IF you're interested support them. HARS gets contributions and many staff there work for free. All face high costs trying to preserve these ties with  Aviations past.  Nev

I wasn't looking for any point, I was correcting an error.

The Australian Warbird Association Ltd, 

under CASR Part 149,  is part of the Self Administering Organisations.

14 minutes ago, facthunter said:

WHAT are they under then.? News to me.   Nev

Go back a few posts to where I quoted you, and spent the time going onto the CASA site and transcribed all of the Self Administering Organisations and you will see it listed there.

4 minutes ago, facthunter said:

 

   

  Warbirds are under VH exp.. Nev

Not as of this morning according to CASA.

1 minute ago, spacesailor said:

My aircraft is grounded ! .

How  much safer does CASA need it , to be safe .

spacesailor

You were given good advice on where it can be fitted in, so no point in repeatedly telling us you can't fly it. 

46 minutes ago, facthunter said:

We continue the trend started by the complete disaster (for us) ex RAAF and Airline management, entity, John McCormick who would not have a bar of the way things were done in the U/L movement at the time. At the time he arrived we were up amongst the most progressive in the world. He Couldn't (Or wouldn't) understand or tolerate it. We have gone downhill since particularly in the increasing paperwork and associated confusion and  cost.  IF you wish to build restore  or alter a plane GO GA (VH) Experimental.  Nev

Well VH Experimental is totally in the clutches of the John McCormacks whereas under CASR Part 149, RAA  is part of the Self Administering Organisations.

Self Administering Organisations as at January 2025

Australian Parachute Federation

Australian Sport Rotorcraft Association

Australian Warbird Association Ltd

Gliding Federation of Australia

Recreational Aviation of Australia

•      Ultralight
•      Recreational
•      Weight-shift Microlight
•      Light Sort Aircraft

Sports Aviation Federation of Australia

•      Hang gliding
•      Paragliding
•      Weight-shift Microlights

The members of each of these bodies can draft or redraft their Constitutions, so they self-administer their organisations and take direct responsibility for any issues. CASA does issue broad guidelines.

The part that is sometimes forgotten is that all of these people fly in CASA, and Airservices airspace so must also learn and comply with CASA and Airservices safety regulations

I would agree that CASA and Airservices need to simplify the way they communicate these regulations.

I broke down the Recreational Aviation Australia and Sports Aviation Federation of Australia sections to show how some activites migrate from one organisation to another or can be duplicated.

Re your comment on paperwork, confusion, cost, these are things that Members need to act on at regullar meetings or change the Constitution to ensure these things are addressed and there are pathways to do this other than just barking at the Government which is now at arms length from these self-administering organizations, so unlikely to step in.

SAFA is by far doing the best job of promoting to the general pubic in my opinion.

40 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

My uncle was high up in vicpol. Retired now but he says they could all see it coming  with courts changing to a mentality of the criminals wellbeing  and rights being more important than the victims.

Andrews government and puppet Jacinta have buried their heads in the sand for 15 years while shops are torched daily, people woken up and bashed in the middle of the night.  I could rant about this topic all day but we are on the wrong forum for it.

Was that Damien Christensen, the Geelong footballer?

........words we can't mention on this site.#1

It was during this training that most of the people were groomed, and joined the Tasmanian hordes.

Today thousands of them flock into UTAS in Hobart to get their degrees in Climate Science. 

Mant of them visit old Bob Brown haunts like ................

#1

Turbo got this line from his local newspaper yesterday. The innocent young female journalist who wrote the story about an Australian punk rock group, described how every second word was an unacceptable swear word, and inuended that some of them were REALLY bad.

There was a poll at the end of the story for readers to vent their degree of shock.        

Attached to the story was a link to the group singing the song, so the young lady was not quite so chaste, and Turbo, then a teenager, had to go for a walk to recover from the shock of hearing the worst coupling of foul language since,  he was captured by an older girl and 20 of her mates to be the floor show at a secluded beach party.

.....model Tasmanians and taught Tasmanian words like "Mainlander", or .......

....Queenslanders and WAliens disappear to Tasmania where they are recycled, re-educated and re............

.......sheep studs of the Riverina, where jackaroos educate them and relieve them of any wealth they might be carrying on their backs, their phones and their credit cards.

They are then carted out in the back of a ute to the back of beyond - somewhere like Balranald or Moulamein where the locals offer them a ride to Victoria for a grand payable up front. So they all finish up going on the fruit, where they find out what its like to work for Italians.........

40 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

i looked up the casa website for 95.10, it has been removed and says no longer supported.

then i looked up 95.10 in the raaus portal and it has been removed from there too. click on 95.10 and it goes nowhere.

turbo has some illusion that its still valid but it is not. we need part 103.

Quote your own rubbish.

.....like everyone in that sliver of no man’s land between Victoria and just north of Kapooka to indenting the inbred grovelling population.

Queenslanders called Victorians Mexicans but as we know they have difficulty  with maps and these isolated people resented it and for years blamed the government for being picked on. when they saw Albo taking the Mickey out of them In his sombrero they attacked him with their

 ingrown nails and......

........head for Mexico."

Albo wasn't sure if this was good advice or someone else taking advantage of him, so he did nothing and finished up in the ...........

2 minutes ago, johnm said:

many years ago - me & ross took a C152 up and did some mountain and valley flying using clouds as the terrain - probably + 3500 feet - we both had about 150 hrs each

 

ross was a confident hang glider pilot as well

 

anyway, i'd be guessing in a tighter turn (ross as PIC) and slower speed (its a memory after 40 years) ............ ye olde C152 fell out of the turn / shook / fluttered / and pointed to the ground

 

it was a total loss of control if you can say that about a stall - we looked at each other with understanding and continued flying - ignoring more cloud mountain and valley flying - we had unintentinally practised what we had been preached

 

(at height .............. ignoring staying clear of clouds ............ of course)

This is different but there’s a record in ATSB  where the engine dropped out of a 150 and the pilot used the falling leaf method at times going backwards to keep air flowing over the wings and he survived.

37 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Stalling is dangerous. Don't we ALL know that? The way it's normally covered in your training is near useless. Loss of control Is LOSS of control and  HAS to be worse. Recovery from unusual attitudes under the hood on limited panel will sort THAT out. I can assure you ,THAT is NOT easy.. Nev

Are you saying that should be added to the RA training at extra cost?

.......he was carrying the bag.

Without recognising the press, R a'C handed the bag to Turbo and said "Thenks auld chap, you did a great job fixing thet much."

You would think that after that, Turbo's career would have been finished, his empire crashed, whole populations sinking into recessions.

But the Press hadn't noticed the bag or the conversation, or for that matter R a'C who'd just sauntered off.

The teals did exactly what their job entailed, (a) Not being worried about the subject matter, or even understanding it, and (b) completely missing the point.

The Press had fallen for it and no one saw Turbo quietly step into the Hummer and drive away.

When Albo was told about it, he .............

.....underhanded scum action of match - fixing.....and he appeared to swoon with shock. The journos were all convinced and the story was about to drop when around the corner came Ra'C with a bulging Wallabies bag and ...........

.......and see about putting you on as a junior member of the team.

"How much would I get?" asked bull.

"151 kina per fight" replied Cappy.

"But why would I be fighting?" asked bull.

"Whenever we start to do a deal, the Minister sends about 20 rascals after us to steal the money back" replied Turbo.

bull realised he was getting the raw end of the bird of paradise, and decided........

......they want more.

bull's eyes glazed over. We know from his precise statement of "150 kina" that he had only been mixing with the Bemal St rascals, and he wondered how an upstanding skipper could get into this Rugby Team scam.

Cappy noticed the eyes and had no intention of losing good money to an over-eager crustacean squasher, so he.............

If it was an outlanding it would have been a  glider. Multiple strips in paddocks there in sight of the freeway.

1 hour ago, rankamateur said:

Could be GA.

Numbers under the wing.

Could be a heart atack.

......The Torres Strait Islands.

Not many people know that the Papua New Guinea government shows two flags in government buildings, one of them the PNG national flag with bird of paradise and the other a rich blue with tiny light green dots representing the thousands of Torres Strait Islands.

Each Island got a budget of one million dollars from the PNG people for bets and roads and picking up rubbish and stuff.

This might come as a surprise to the thousands of Shire Councils who show a completely different flag; the rear end of a bull with his nuts represented by a star.

And of course we pay $5 million per island just so they don't start dreaming up old massacres and their kids being stolen.

Turbo once spoke to a group on one of the islands when he was doing one of his around Australia outboard trips and old Merc seized near Mer Island "Dat Aussie Bull flag not our flag" he said, "we not Australian, they just showed it to us and asked what we like to make it and we said Bullsh!t. You funny people Australians, dumb too" and Italian suit shimmered in the cool island breeze.

Over on the Mainland (PNG) .......

The horse has bolted on this, with a lot of discussion on various FB and other websites.

It affects RA Instructors, RA students, RA pilots and RA flying schools, so I would recommend these people hit the net and see who the players are and what they are saying and how it might affect you.

Discussing it publicly just gives them a heads up.