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week where the Senior Elder of the Ngimbygimberi Tribe (which had not been in existence two weeks ago), Voldomyr Evzbeyan, was asserting that in his tribe 132,000 years ago they were  shaping Friesian cow pats into discs using a Keilzl Die Mould, and should therefore be receiving the royalty.

Albo, who'd just won the election (it wasn't easy), had to make a decision; "I've got a plan", he said to everyone who would listen; "if we give the Ng,Ng,Bg - them 10c a pat, they'll go away", but .................

1 hour ago, Captain said:

Dear NESers. Please make allowance for the above post as the TurgidPlonker appears to have made a response (however excellent in content, as usual) to a thread/topic from page 700 with no attempt to follow on from the SingleRoot's excellent ramble into the fascinating subject of liquid Tasmanian cow pats. Give us 30 minutes & some brilliant NES contributor will be able to combine squishy cow pats with the Foreign Legion, Beau Geste, the TP's numerous awards, the Fort, the Corporal and that single poo covered fly.

Turbo apologises to our RES readers; he still suffers lost time as a result of being on the USS at the time of the Philadelphia Experiment (which we won't talk about here because it was Classified), but to go back to the correct concatenated contextual continuity:

"As a result, contestants in the CPHG were constantly having huge problems in picking up the local cow pats, because they were all wet and sloppy, and there's nothing more demoralising than trying to pick up a wet cow pat, and having it fall apart, just as you.........

...have lifted it over your head to check for any light transmission, which would disqualify it, and find it doesn't meet the 95th percentile thickness and is transerring itself to your head and ................

........strong enough to beat of an intruder just with her looks, and what's more .........

[In Cappy's reference to Turbo's service with the French Foreign Legion he didn't mention that Turbo had been awarded the Croix de Guerre, the Liberte de Paris, and was the subject for the book Beau Geste, where a desert patrol arrives at a fort and there is no response when they knock on the font door thingy. They look up and in the crenellates they see rifles pointing out. There is not a sound except for opne blowfly buzzing around Corporal Onne Trek. The Corporal climbs over the wall and finds the fort deserted except for one little soldier who tells this amzing story.]

Just checked the Planning status of Lismore Airport.

The proposed changes were first mentioned on this site on July 21 last year

On August 8 I found there was a Draft Lismore Regional City Action Plan (RCAP) which had placed the RCAP on exhibition from May 17, closing June 15.

Because it was critical for them to protect their interests with Existing Rights Use which they had at that time, I recommended the Airport people have a Planning Consultant make an urgent submission.

Lismore Regional City Action Plan (RCAP)  - August 2021 Report

Stakeholder Interviews and Meetings

·       Lismore Chamber of Commerce

·       Southern Cross University

·       NORPA and Arts Northern Rivers

(No Airport or Aviation interviews or meetings mentioned.)

Submissions

12 individuals

1 Interest group

1 Government Agency

(No names given)

Changes obtained during above process

Objective 5: “Land Uses should not be supported which compromise Important Farmland” s identified in the North Coast Regional Plan 2036.

Submission Summary

Airport 1 submission: “The Airport is not suitable as an airport facility due to the length of the runway location in a flood prone area and fog.”

Dept response: Addressed in Objective 5 which outlines the investigation of the airport as a potential training and export facility. An instrument landing system allows aircrafts (sic) to safely land during periods of low visibility. No change to Plan.

The final RCAP has now been released.

LISMORE REGIONAL CITY ACTION PLAN 2036

“Airport gets 14 mentions in the document (including indexes) including:

Item 2              Airport Industrial Estate

Page 13

“Support Employment and Industry growth of the Airport precinct through an Airport Freight and Logistics Masterplan.”

Page 30

8.4

“Investigate the potential for food, processing, packaging and distribution on employment land in proximity to Lismore Regional Airport.”

8.5

“Investigate the potential of the airport as a training and export facility that will promote development opportunities.

Page 31

Guide future growth of the Lismore Airport precinct via an Airport Freight and Logistics Masterplan

Result

The Lismore area Planning Scheme will have been updated, the new RCAP took effect when it was announced and the new clauses should be up on the Online Planning System now. The new Plan applies to 2036.

34 minutes ago, nick_reese said:

The wingers are at it again in Lismore:

 

From: Judith  To: the aircraft operator in question

In regards to Training

 

Fri 29/4/22 4pm
Why is *** roaring over Lismore doing circuits at about 550ft and not within the fly neighbourly zone. This is really disrespectful to the flood victims of Lismore and unacceptable. As you well know your Beech Barons are extremely noisy and low circuits over our residences is really disturbing. Please ensure your pilots are familiar and compliant with the Fly neighbourly guidelines.

 

This is the same Judith who created an online petition which calls for State, Federal and local Council representatives to make some regulatory and practical changes - including the re-designation of the Lismore airport runway direction.

“Changing the runway direction from south to north will take the flights out west, and not over the residential areas of Lismore,” Judith said.

 

I'm glad there's someone out there that can accurately judge the height of an aircraft to be 550'!, even though she doesn't have a clue how circuit direction is determined. 

 

Nick 

 

 

 

 

 

Best not to provide written ammunition. Lismore from memory was a straight planning case. Freedom of speech allows anyone to be critical.

3 hours ago, F10 said:

Eurocopter and spares are problematic, I get that. But all I can say is in South Africa, the SAAF operated Pumas and later the Oryx hPuma airframe with Super Puma engines and gearboxes, upgraded cockpit) for over 40 years, getting excellent service out of them. Yes, the honeycomb floors were soft, but then 5mm super wood load spreader floor coverings were fitted, solving the problem. The aircraft had two big cabin sliding doors, but not the rear ramp which surely is a great feature? Just seems strange that these Taipan helicopters, made by the same people, were so troublesome?

One big culture clash was the loadmaster/door gunner. I believe Pumas and Eurocopter products were never designed to defend themselves in a hot LZ. That’s the orbiting gunships job, and the defence from the troops exiting the helicopter. in the SAAF we flew with flight engineers. They carried out certain flight duties and all loading and field maintenance duties. They were good, they could change an engine, in the bush. To me, a better config than door gunners?

That's very much like the fights (politics) that go on when designing a car or truck in Australia. Each group has a different way of doing things and passionately believe they are right; each core design has weaknesses, each has advantages, and if you're lucky you can reach a point where you incorporate all the advantages and eliminate all the weaknesses, but I've never seen it done.

......stockinged, because this is Jetstar, not Virgin, and ..............

[Not many people know that on the Australia-New Zealand flights Virgin Richard Branson decided that Australians don't have long enough concentration spans to read in-flight magazines, and New Zealanders can't read, so the Dunny Roll Act plays to the packed crowd. The aircraft is put on auto pilot, someone holds the end of the dunny roll outside the dunny, crew members hold it over their heads until the roll holder gets to the opposite end of the plane. The dunny person walks in opens the flush hatch and starts feeding the length of paper in; suction takes over  and the long length disappears out of sight down the hatch. There are thousands of dunny strips spread over the Canterbury nd Liverppol Plains and academics hve been obtaining grants to conduct research into how they grow naturally in these locations]

..........UberFlight dude realised he was an hour late for his next job, a Jetstar flight to the Gold Coast, and phoned in with an apology, and who should he get but SaraH Doubtfire, one of their new hostesses who was wishing she still had the powers to throw unfortunates from one end of a divvy van to the other, or .............

............phoning his Fortune Teller to see if he would make the destination alive.

When she hesitated, he immediately sent a text to UberPilots and an ex airline pilot, full of himself took took control explaining the he was a c ross-dresser and was that a problem.

Turbo felt it was time he had some currency training, so he................... 

2 hours ago, onetrack said:

As with all Outback conditions, if it has been raining within the last 10 days, you need to keep right out salt lakes, claypans, and most red soils - even if they look hard.

Rain softens claypans, and even though you may not bog in them, there will be a layer of sticky red clay on some, which can causes problems with anything with wheels on it, that tries to operate on it.

In addition, during the time the clay pan is inundated, winds can move the topography around and create ridges, and floating tree branches can be pushed around by the winds and crab holes can be created, so clay pans really need a local to visit the pan and give the all clear. That visit can confirm whether the surface will support a wheel, and the recovery can be fast. On one occasion I drove a 3 tonne motor home from Marree to Lake Eyre South, spinning the wheels in the valleys in the morning, and came home on dry clay pulling up dust late afternoon.

Salt lakes are different, treacherous because they dry as a crust. The aircraft photo above is nowhere near the first; many have gone down to the belly before.

1 hour ago, Ian said:

With hydrogen fuel the logistics at airports would be a huge issue. For example KLAX used about 50M Barrels a year which is about 26 million L a day.

Currently at LAX there are multiple airport feeds from offsite storage allowing multiple fuel companies to distribute fuel via an underground fuel network which is pumped into planes

There also need to be the ability to unload fuel, hydrogen especially would need to be offloaded to keep it cool.

The whole system would need to operate at cryogenic temperatures in all sorts of weather conditions.

You'd also need to operate this system in parallel with existing fueling systems for a significant period of time.

But the challenge would be the handling of a potentially explosive mixture compared to a relatively inert one in the quantities required in close proximity to thousands of passengers would be difficult. So you might force refuelling to be conducted in an area away from passengers.

It just sounds hard and dangerous. More likely that a synthetic carbon neutral fuel will be developed which can use the same infrastructure.

 

4 minutes ago, kasper said:

Not quite just aligning with corporate law. It also allows the board to set additional required capacities or experience for applicants.  This is a further step away from any member being able to put themselves forward in a year as they may meet all the corporate law requirements and be a member BUT can't nominate because they may lack an experience or skill that the board have set as a requirement for that election.  

 

Under the changes its perfectly legit for the board to add a restriction to nominations like must be an Raaus instructor.  Or they may require a registered accountant.  Or they may require a person with LAME registration.

 

All possible under this change but still no requirement for an actual set of election rules to be published to members.  

 

Ill be voting no as this is not simply a clean up to align with the corporation's law which already applied but an extension of powers TO the board in respect to who can be put forward by the members to join the board. 

 

Not needed in my opinion. It's already open to the board to express their desire for some areas of skill when calling for nominations but this change means they control in part the board skills and only allow parts of membership to nominate

Great that someone is still awake!

.......Turbine Print paid bull $1 million dollars for the rights and put the image up on Instagram, within hours they had 3.2 million followers and had sold $6 million in advertising space, and it was expanding exponentially. "You don't get an opportunity like this often" said Turbo, and next we're thinking of ............

........Vladomirs. The Premier understood immediately what Dan was going through, becaise Vlad had threatened to send tanks in to Tasmania to even up the balance of power in the Bass Strait zone. bull was only trying to crack a joke when he said "Are you going to run out of fuel here too" and Vlad ha threatened to Nuke him, but made him promise not to tell anyone. What he didn't count on was that bull had been Bidens Wing Man at the Battle of ....................

....quietly breathed a sigh of relief that Tasmania had gone back into its shell for another hundred years. But there was trouble on the horizon; President Xi reminded Chairman Dan that he'd paid for the road to Tasmania and asked for his money back, and said he was going to take a closer look at how many belts and roads had actually been built in Victoria. He also warned Dan that he had just signed an Agreement with that nice Mr Bill from Tasmania, and casually mentioned that he might build a Naval base there.

"Go right ahead" said Dan and emailed Xi a photo of the Moskva with its fire crew showing their skill at pointing hoses in the direction of a fire; Dan added "How's your mate, Vlad?"

Xi responded with "It's not going to be easy with Albanese" and Dan ............

.......Vladimir Putin, who fancied himself as a redneck but couldn't quite get the tone, and .................

.......shook with fear because Turbo had changed colour completely and was now a bright .....................

..... almost immediately slammed into Cappy. "Oh, I am most awfully sorry" said Turbo, playing the Pom card, but Cappy ................................

...........struggling to run, partly because of the mottling, and partly because they'd just finished a Wagyu steak lunch. The Wildcat had been dragged out onto the apron, and who should be doing the after-start checks but Nobushi Takawaysa, and as he saw them running, he .........................

......... calf muscles and kicked bull fair in the nuts, and bull instantly recovered.

"Mein Manouvre" said Heimlich "es kumpletely undersytoot!", but the pain was starting to spread on bull, and he wasn't quite so sure. "Der PC reich didn't like cussen and swearen, an they CHANST IT!" he  continued, but nobody was listening, because a sound was coming from.....................

sides with laughter; bull was running backwards with a sort of  "!gbab  gnab ytthc yttihc" sound, so someone gave him a hard slap on the back, but then .....................................

........burrrp, click, click, click and ...................

12 minutes ago, Bruce Tuncks said:

Here at the farm, we have installed a shed containing a diesel generator. And as you guys said, the cost of its  power is 3 times what we pay for mains. So it is there as a standby.

Alice Springs used to have a power station with big diesel generators, these days it has turbine driven generators.

I guess the cost is subsidised, many other things are.

But I still hanker for living off the grid with solar, wind and batteries. The power would seem to be free, so it would be much more enjoyable than the mains stuff.

You can, and a few do, but you have to forget air conditioning full lighting, appliances, drills, welders, and angle grinders. 

In fact you could pick up a cheap system around Edenhope and the South East because the whole are moved from kerosene lamps, kerosene fridges and candles to 31 volt gen/battery sets powered by Ronaldson Tippet or Lister engines. In fact there was one version available which allowed you as much consumption as you wanted. Turn on a switch in the middle of the night and you would hear the Lister start up to make up for any battery drain, start welding and the Lister would start up again. When you'd forgotten to run the engine and the batteries went flat there was no radio or TV or lights for about an hour so it was back to candles. I'd suggest if you asked any property owner around Edenhope if he would sell you his old 32 volt system, he'd say YOU CAN HAVE THE XXXXXXX THING!!!!!!!.

49 minutes ago, turboplanner said:

I estimate the Greens budget to achieve what they want is about 6.5 trillion dollars per year, and that's coming out of our pockets, not theirs.

 

Suffered some brain fade; the figure is 0.625 trillion, which I mentioned in an earlier post.

2 hours ago, onetrack said:

 the Govt seems intent on ensuring that LPG is killed off.

The simple fact remains that LPG is a clean burning fuel, and using it results in lower carbon emissions and longer engine life.

The government did kill it off. No one was able to design an engine that could meet our Particulate and NOx limits.

Interestingly there is no emission standard for CO2 in Australia because it can't be measured, output is varied by the standard of the fuel used.