Fuel Price

[skippydiesel]

42 minutes ago, coljones said:

Farm appliances on GPS levelled broad acres can achieve efficiencies as they can maintain long distances at optimum efficiencies but when you brake, slow down, turn corners and rev up through the gears you drop out of the efficient range of ICEs. Planes achieve efficiencies by adopting a low fuel rate in cruise at a constant altitude.

In my limited experience - 

Tractors and other powered farm equipment (header etc) have governed engines.

The operator sets the rpm depending on the work to be done.

For the most part the engine remains at or close to the set rpm (varying loads eg soil conditions may influence this).

In short there is not much, if any change in rpm, for corners, etc. 

Brakes are principally used as a turning aid - not for slowing. Slowing, if required, is achieved through engine braking and /or an implement reaming in work.

For the most part tractors do not go up & down through the gears (hydrostatic transmission may do this). The work gear is selected and remains (some tractors incorporate torque converters to allow for part ratio changes "on the fly").

Most tractors can move off, in every work gear ie gear changes are not usually done when moving.

 

You may wish to rethink your agricultural example😈

[turboplanner]

1 hour ago, coljones said:

Farm appliances on GPS levelled broad acres can achieve efficiencies as they can maintain long distances at optimum efficiencies but when you brake, slow down, turn corners and rev up through the gears you drop out of the efficient range of ICEs. Planes achieve efficiencies by adopting a low fuel rate in cruise at a constant altitude.

Depends on what you're doing when you sink the ploughs, harrows, cultivator in, its maximum torque demand all day. seeding its light governor all day, headers its primarily driving all the components.

[facthunter]

On smaller acreages your Hand is Nearly always on the throttle. Unfortunately for those of us who also fly It works in reverse to the Aeroplane. A decent vine sprayer would absorb More that 50 Hp without the tractor Moving.. . Nev

[Reynard]

Waiting to hear if Avgas supplies will be affected by the Viva refinery fire.  Almost all of Australia’s Avgas comes from this refinery- the rest is imported.

[BrendAn]

1 minute ago, Reynard said:

Waiting to hear if Avgas supplies will be affected by the Viva refinery fire.  Almost all of Australia’s Avgas comes from this refinery- the rest is imported.

I read it is the avgas section on fire.

[Reynard]

I haven’t yet seen any specific reference to Avgas (that would specifically be the alkylation unit), only Mogas, which is a little more generic.

[pmccarthy]

For those who have argued that Australia does not use the term Mogas,Viva energy itself describes it as their Mogas plant.

[Siso]

Who owns Viva Energy?

[facthunter]

Google it. Mate. Nev

[BrendAn]

2 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Google it. Mate. Nev

And you call me rude 

[facthunter]

ADAM BANDT made that saying famous and If you think THAT is rude you are too touchy .This forum would function much better if people just  checked up more things and told us. Nev

[skippydiesel]

Speculation;

 

The fire in the Viva refereeing has been reported as being in the "Mogas" section.

 

As an earlier respondent mentioned the term Mogas, is used in refineries, to describe that section of the system dealing with petrol (rather than diesel/Aviation kerosene & similar).

 

I suggest that what comes out of the Mogas system will be further processed into various grades of ULP & AvGas.

 

So there is likly to be an impact (??) on ULP & AvGas supply/cost 😈

[facthunter]

Avgas will be affected. so they say.  Nev

[BrendAn]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

ADAM BANDT made that saying famous and If you think THAT is rude you are too touchy .This forum would function much better if people just  checked up more things and told us. Nev

No such thing as a stupid question. Only stupid answers.

What is the point of a forum if you are not allowed to ask anything

[facthunter]

You deliberately Miss my point, as usual. I'm prepared to stand by what I said and my right to say so without being attacked Personally as is far too common here Particularly of late..  I ENCOURAGE Questions (particularly Aviation related) which is the Purpose  of this section of Ian Baker's  Site. Saying "Googe it" was an answer and what I do Often to check how it corresponds with My recollection BEFORE I post . IT is therefore NOT a "stupid answer". but a Helpful suggestion.  Nev

[BrendAn]

1 hour ago, skippydiesel said:

Speculation;

 

The fire in the Viva refereeing has been reported as being in the "Mogas" section.

 

As an earlier respondent mentioned the term Mogas, is used in refineries, to describe that section of the system dealing with petrol (rather than diesel/Aviation kerosene & similar).

 

I suggest that what comes out of the Mogas system will be further processed into various grades of ULP & AvGas.

 

So there is likly to be an impact (??) on ULP & AvGas supply/cost 😈

Rumour is Chris Bowen was seen running away just after the fire started.

[facthunter]

Oh How Bl@@dy childish and again in the wrong section.. Nev

[BrendAn]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

You deliberately Miss my point, as usual. I'm prepared to stand by what I said and my right to say so without being attacked Personally as is far too common here Particularly of late..  I ENCOURAGE Questions (particularly Aviation related) which is the Purpose  of this section of Ian Baker's  Site. Saying "Googe it" was an answer and what I do Often to check how it corresponds with My recollection BEFORE I post . IT is therefore NOT a "stupid answer". but a Helpful suggestion.  Nev

i have to disagree nev. i have been hit with the google it replies before and it just makes you think why bother with a forum if they discourage people asking questions. and i would have said the same thing to anyone else that posted it too. you have not been selected because of our ongoing feud .😁

[coljones]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Oh How Bl@@dy childish and again in the wrong section.. Nev

There should be a button for "I'm confused about your post -what are you responding to?"

[BrendAn]

21 minutes ago, coljones said:

There should be a button for "I'm confused about your post -what are you responding to?"

he was responding to my chris bowen joke. very sensitive about the labour party.

[facthunter]

Just about misrepresentations and it's LABOR  in Australia. BTW. Col it's fairly obvious who I'm responding to  Nev

[facthunter]

Good thing on this site. The people who Don't know much self identify. Nev

[BrendAn]

6 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Good thing on this site. The people who Don't know much self identify. Nev

You really are getting too old for the internet 

[facthunter]

Never stop the insults do we? You are a disgrace. Nev

[BrendAn]

27 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Never stop the insults do we? You are a disgrace. Nev

Probably true .