Life Safe fire extingushers

[Blueadventures]

Has anyone used these, saw the item at Autobarn the other day. Very compact and may be suitable on aircraft.

 

 

 

[skippydiesel]

Three points :

• What is in the can ie what is the fire suppressant?
• How would it be secure in the aircraft?
• In an aircraft context, how & where would you use it?

😈

 

 

[BurnieM]

What chemical component does it use ?

 

In the video I see at least 2 examples of supposedly electrical fires that look more to me like flammible liquids.

 

Edited December 28, 2025 by BurnieM

[Moneybox]

You can't exactly stand outside and give it a squirt. Whatever it releases you're going to be breathing. Perhaps CO2 is the safest.

[Blueadventures]

1 hour ago, skippydiesel said:

Three points :

• What is in the can ie what is the fire suppressant?
• How would it be secure in the aircraft?
• In an aircraft context, how & where would you use it?

😈

 

 

There is some homework for you; let us know what you find out.  If it does not affect electrical equipment like dry powder and foam does and if the air is safe for us them it should be suitable.  I could not find a data sheet only the video, I took the images while waiting for a car pint colour to be mixed on Boxing day.  

 

These are the brief details I read.

 

StaySafe 5-in-1 Technical Data

Technical Data Sheet

This document is prepared by LIfeSafe Technologies and is a formal technical document for the StaySafe 5 in 1 fire extinguisher

Date 10/02/2021

Product Overview

StaySafe is a lightweight, robust, easy to use plastic fire extinguisher that can be used at any angle with no reduction in flowrate or performance. It is Non-Toxic, Non-Hazardous and is environmentally friendly.

StaySafe needs no maintenance or servicing Shelf life of 3 years

StaySafe has passed a Di-Electric test to 35KVa, ensuring it is safe to be used on live electrical equipment/installations up to 1000v from 1 metre.

Technical summary

335ml PET bottle with PET BOV

(Pressurised with compressed gas)

Example 2020 artwork Design LifeSafe Technologies

Performance of the product

StaySafe 5in1 extinguisher Extinguishes 5 types of initial fire

1. Electrical fires up to 1000V
2. Paper
3. Textiles
4. Cooking Oil
5. Petrol/Diesel

Customer Instructions as stated on the pack

Customer Warnings as stated on the pack

Shelf test and drop tests comply with BS5597

Passed the ADD testing (Aerosol Dispenser Directive) 100% Pass

The tests as prescribed in FEA (Plastic aerosol dispenser Standard) draft standard X8-647 were performed with 15% and 40% headspace of compressed air using a maximum Hydraulic Test Pressure of 15 bar.

MSDS Summary - Safety Data for Fluid FER1000 v3

PBT: This product is not identified as a PBT/vPvB substance.

(PBT/vPvB assessments under the previous EU chemicals legislation The TC NES sub-group on identification of PBT and vPvB substances assessed suspected PBTs (persistent, bio accumulative and toxic) and vPvBs (very persistent and very bio accumulative) under the previous EU chemicals legislation.)

Classification under CLP: (Classification for Labelling and Packaging)

This product has no classification under CLP.

Edited December 28, 2025 by Blueadventures

[Moneybox]

If you're unlucky enough for one of your many lithium battery devices to burst into flames you're unlikely to survive to fight the fire anyway.

 

 

 

This is rust on all untreated steel under the Hyundai iLoad dash. The corrosion is only evident since the lithium fire a few weeks back. There was no fire in this area so it has to be chemicals released in the battery explosion.

[mkennard]

I thought it would be good anyway for fires on the ground, either taxying or startup. In flight shit hits the fan.

[BrendAn]

10 hours ago, mkennard said:

I thought it would be good anyway for fires on the ground, either taxying or startup. In flight shit hits the fan.

thats an excellent point.  

[Neil_S]

On 28/12/2025 at 5:06 PM, Blueadventures said:

Has anyone used these, saw the item at Autobarn the other day. Very compact and may be suitable on aircraft.

 

 

 

Hi Blueadventures,

 

I saw them on sale in Aldi yesterday, but everything I read about fires in enclosed cockpits says to use Halotron or Halocarbon - both replacements for Halon. They all caution against anything else such as powder, as you won't be able to see anything after expelling powder, or CO2 as it can corrode. But what my research has found is that even small Halotron or Halocarbon extinguishers cost a small fortune - at least $5-600, with others over $1K! So something tells me the Aldi/Autobahn jobbies above are NOT Halotron/Halocarbon-based!

 

As noted by others, probably good for use on the ground though 🙂

 

Cheers,

Neil

On 28/12/2025 at 5:06 PM, Blueadventures said:

 

 

 

 

[Blueadventures]

I bought 2 of these today at Auto Barn, 1/2 price $25 each.

[facthunter]

I can't see why CO2 would corrode anything. unless Moisture is involved. The Nozzle gets freezing  cold and the CO2 does  displace Oxygen. Nev

[Kiwi]

No good for the Cherokee.....

[Blueadventures]

23 minutes ago, Kiwi said:

No good for the Cherokee.....

Thanks Kiwi, I had read that and will be assessing max temp that I think in places will exceed 50*C when parked outside.  

[facthunter]

You wouldn't want to be sitting in a Plane when the cabin temp was 50c. It  will have a pressure relief valve. Nev

[Kiwi]

4 hours ago, facthunter said:

You wouldn't want to be sitting in a Plane when the cabin temp was 50c. It  will have a pressure relief valve. Nev

It gets in the 50's when parked in the sun in QLD.

Also I don't believe it has a pressure relief valve. 

 

I had a tyre inflation pressure pack go off in a black Trans Am once, was in the rear hatch area, shot forward and cracked the front screen. 

Edited Sunday at 06:25 AM by Kiwi

[facthunter]

There May be others with different Limits. Is that somewhat Like a rattle can? The one I have in the Workshop is quite heavy with a long cone Nozzle and a Pressure Gauge. Nev

[Reynard]

I believe it contains Ammonium Bicarbonate.

Ammonium bicarbonate would decompose and release CO2 upon contact with high heat, but being an endothermic reaction, would cool the fire and starve it (and you) of oxygen. It would also produce ammonia gas, which in a confined cockpit would be a problem - but maybe better than the fire ?? So while you are coughing like crazy, your eyes are streaming and your getting hypoxic, don’t forget to fly the plane.

 

 

[sfGnome]

Here’s an idle thought. What if the bottles was mounted on the engine side of the firewall with remote activation from the cabin (Bowden cable or whatever). More likely to hit the source of the fire, and not going to incapacitate the pilot. Fire in the cabin would most likely be electrical, and (from my singular experience), they tend to be short lived, though producing vast quantities of smoke. Of course, the 50C limit would be normally exceeded with this particular extinguisher, but I assume that there are others which aren’t pressurised. 

[T510]

23 minutes ago, sfGnome said:

Here’s an idle thought. What if the bottles was mounted on the engine side of the firewall with remote activation from the cabin (Bowden cable or whatever). More likely to hit the source of the fire, and not going to incapacitate the pilot. Fire in the cabin would most likely be electrical, and (from my singular experience), they tend to be short lived, though producing vast quantities of smoke. Of course, the 50C limit would be normally exceeded with this particular extinguisher, but I assume that there are others which aren’t pressurised. 

Blazecut and Ferrosticker make automatic deploying fire suppression devices for confined spaces.

 

I know a few people who use them in marine and earthmoving applications.

 

Not sure how they would go in an aviation scenario, I guess you need to determine which is the lesser of the two evils. The fire or the suppression system

 

[facthunter]

Look Up Ammonium Bicarbonate and it's uses. It is NOT used in C02 fire extinguishers. They use Liquified Carbon Dioxide under high Pressure. It comes out very cold which aids taking the HEAT out of the fire. It functions by excluding oxygen. 

  Electrical fires are best controlled by Isolating them and finding the Circuit with the Problem item.   Engines. shut off the fuel. Any uncontrolled fire LAND as soon as Possible. Revisit how well your firewall will function.  Nev

[Reynard]

16 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Look Up Ammonium Bicarbonate and it's uses. It is NOT used in C02 fire extinguishers. They use Liquified Carbon Dioxide under high Pressure. It comes out very cold which aids taking the HEAT out of the fire. It functions by excluding oxygen. 

  Electrical fires are best controlled by Isolating them and finding the Circuit with the Problem item.   Engines. shut off the fuel. Any uncontrolled fire LAND as soon as Possible. Revisit how well your firewall will function.  Nev

Correct ! Ammonium Bicarbonate is not used in CO2 fire extinguishers. It is used in Ammonium Bicarbonate based fire extinguishers.

[facthunter]

Why would you want Ammonia in the equation? It's not nice stuff for People to inhale. Nev

[Reynard]

I suspect because its use is cheap on two fronts. Firstly, the fire extinguisher itself doesn’t need to be a significantly structured pressure vessel, and secondly because the raw material itself is pretty cheap to make and fairly stable at room temperature.

 

The reason that CO2 comes out cold from an extinguisher is simply through its change in state from liquid to gas as soon as it leaves the vessel (Boyle’s Law).

On the other hand, Ammonium bicarbonate absorbs the heat of reaction directly from the fire itself to produce CO2, thereby reducing its intensity, whilst simultaneously starving it of oxygen also right on the fire itself.

 

Other than enclosed spaces such as cockpits, the ammonia would very quickly flash off and generally not be a major issue. The extinguisher of course should be directed at the fire and not at people, although that is not always the case.

[facthunter]

I would suggest using that stuff in a plane is not a good Idea. Nev

[BurnieM]

Even the Halon replacements can displace oxygen in an enclosed area.

Seems like all types of fire extinguisher have significant downsides in a plane cockpit.