skippydiesel Posted Saturday at 04:26 AM Posted Saturday at 04:26 AM Random thought; Given that the "melted" part was designed to conduct cool/external air and cooled by the same, the undercowl temperature of this aircraft must have been extreem to overcome the cooling effect of the fresh air. 😈 1
facthunter Posted Saturday at 06:29 AM Posted Saturday at 06:29 AM It's a Pusher isn't it? They are harder to cool. Nev 1
danny_galaga Posted Saturday at 06:53 AM Author Posted Saturday at 06:53 AM 2 hours ago, skippydiesel said: Random thought; Given that the "melted" part was designed to conduct cool/external air and cooled by the same, the undercowl temperature of this aircraft must have been extreem to overcome the cooling effect of the fresh air. 😈 Not random at all. I wondered if there might have been a small engine fire
facthunter Posted Saturday at 07:05 AM Posted Saturday at 07:05 AM It would show on other Parts I reckon. Nev 1
danny_galaga Posted Saturday at 08:03 AM Author Posted Saturday at 08:03 AM 57 minutes ago, facthunter said: It would show on other Parts I reckon. Nev Probably.
Thruster88 Posted Saturday at 08:11 AM Posted Saturday at 08:11 AM Looks like this aircraft had rotec? Throttle body injection also called a pressure carburetor. I think they can suffer from carburetor ice so it is possible carburetor heat was in use during the low power decent for landing.
sfGnome Posted Saturday at 09:49 AM Posted Saturday at 09:49 AM Depends on the material used (apologies if the actual material was discussed earlier). My son printed some proof-or-concept items for me, and they distorted when left in his car. I can imagine the under-cowl getting hotter than that. 2
danny_galaga Posted Saturday at 10:34 AM Author Posted Saturday at 10:34 AM 44 minutes ago, sfGnome said: Depends on the material used (apologies if the actual material was discussed earlier). My son printed some proof-or-concept items for me, and they distorted when left in his car. I can imagine the under-cowl getting hotter than that. Yeah, I linked to a useful article, but its in the previous page. Here it is again https://hackaday.com/2025/12/10/failed-3d-printed-part-brings-down-small-plane/
danny_galaga Posted Saturday at 10:38 AM Author Posted Saturday at 10:38 AM 2 hours ago, Thruster88 said: Looks like this aircraft had rotec? Throttle body injection also called a pressure carburetor. I think they can suffer from carburetor ice so it is possible carburetor heat was in use during the low power decent for landing. Lycoming 0360. Not sure how you came up with Rotec 😄
Thruster88 Posted Saturday at 05:17 PM Posted Saturday at 05:17 PM (edited) 6 hours ago, danny_galaga said: Lycoming 0360. Not sure how you came up with Rotec 😄 Yes the data plate says o-360 and it would have left the lycoming factory with an updraft Marvel-Schebler carburetor bolted directly to the sump, just like the one in my RV6a, however the picture clearly shows that was no longer the case unfortunately. Edited Saturday at 05:20 PM by Thruster88 1
sfGnome Posted Saturday at 10:33 PM Posted Saturday at 10:33 PM (edited) 11 hours ago, danny_galaga said: Yeah, I linked to a useful article, but its in the previous page. Here it is again Yep, definitely not ABS. With a glass transition of 52C, it has to be PLA. Someone got distracted and put the wrong reel on the machine (I can’t believe that it was intentional). Moral of the story? If you buy a 3D printed part, put it in the oven for a while (ie anneal it) and watch what happens. Edited Saturday at 10:34 PM by sfGnome Fixed error 1
Blueadventures Posted Saturday at 10:45 PM Posted Saturday at 10:45 PM On 05/12/2025 at 11:05 AM, danny_galaga said: Plane totalled, landing short of runway.Pilot only minor injuries. A good reminder I guess that it gets toasty under the hood! https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1w932vqye0o On a side comment it doesn't look like the gascolator bowl securing has been safety wired to prevent loosening. 2
facthunter Posted Sunday at 12:18 AM Posted Sunday at 12:18 AM (edited) I can't see how it's Totalled either. The rear and Motor is undamaged. Maybe the Photographer doesn't know how the Plane LOOKS undamaged. That Lycoming runs the air/mixture through passages in the alloy sump which cools the Oil and heats the fuel Mixture. It also causes sludge Build up on the cooled surfaces. That Floatless Carb is Made by Rotec. Nev Edited Sunday at 12:21 AM by facthunter more content. 1
danny_galaga Posted Sunday at 02:14 AM Author Posted Sunday at 02:14 AM 8 hours ago, Thruster88 said: Yes the data plate says o-360 and it would have left the lycoming factory with an updraft Marvel-Schebler carburetor bolted directly to the sump, just like the one in my RV6a, however the picture clearly shows that was no longer the case unfortunately. That was the point of that air duct. They had fitted a new induction system, presumably replacing the carby. 1 1
facthunter Posted Sunday at 05:15 AM Posted Sunday at 05:15 AM It has NO floats and is probably a lot cheaper and More available than the Schebler. Having no venturi, It's Probably LESS prone to Icing but I know a bit of fuel sometimes drips on the ground when starting. I'd be happy with the Mechanical Injectors and the GAMI treatment on the 360. It's NOT a troublesome Motor.. Mounting the Carb directly to the Hot Sump (as original) Probably Means Icing is not a great Issue. Power off approaches with a Hot Muffler as a heat source can't be relied on. Nev 1 1
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