RA-Aus member benefits

[Reynard]

Anyone else received a text message that their IOR RA-AUS fuel discount is about to expire?

I think I managed to access this discount just once when buying Avgas at some remote location, but wasn’t aware the discount was temporary.

[JabiruWeekendWarrior]

I got the same message today, not sure where i am supposed to get a new code for the IOR app from.

When I go to Ra-Aus there is only IOR Registration, but I had already registered some time ago for the current expiring discount.

Can someone in the know with IOR or Ra-Aus explain to members what is expected?

Edited November 20 by JabiruWeekendWarrior

[JabiruWeekendWarrior]

2025-11-20 Evening Update for IOR app, When I look in the IOR app on my phone it now shows Expires 2034-11-30 so maybe its updated itself??

[Reynard]

Curious - I just checked mine, and I only got an extra year !!

[skippydiesel]

CAUTION this may be inaccurate 

 

I have heard that RAA members, with more than one aircraft type endorsement , will no longer be able to maintain BFR currency by siting the one biannual review ie each aircraft type will require a separate BFR.😈

[skippydiesel]

Thanks for the second (to my) caution- What do you know or not?😈

[FlyBoy1960]

I don't know anything at all, I just chose the icon caution because if this statement is correct it is simply a money grab by struggling instructors who are sourcing to get more income doing endorsements. That should be a caution or a red flag to anyone

[facthunter]

Where is your evidence of a Money grab BY instructor's.? THAT used to come up when there were a lot of Instructors on the Board. whether it was true  then Or Not I never found out. Actions such as this deteriorate the whole  scene so it's no good for anyone.

  Perhaps if you lack recency, or are unsure, you should do it with an Instructor but Most sensible people would do that anyhow. Nev.

[BurnieM]

Seems unlikely. People would just go RPL and avoid RAAus.

 

[FlyBoy1960]

25 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Where is your evidence of a Money grab BY instructor's.? THAT used to come up when there were a lot of Instructors on the Board. whether it was true  then Or Not I never found out. Actions such as this deteriorate the whole  scene so it's no good for anyone.

  Perhaps if you lack recency, or are unsure, you should do it with an Instructor but Most sensible people would do that anyhow. Nev.

I have no evidence of anything but if they are requiring a BFR for a high-performance aircraft and another BFR for a thruster and another BFR for something else then this would tell me something is going on in the background that would have to be validated by..

 

If accident statistics that prove if somebody had a BFR in a thruster and then immediately crashed there plastic fantastic then it would indicate a problem.

 

If accidents statistics prove they just had their BFR in a plastic fantastic and then crashed there thruster then it would indicate a problem.

 

 if this could be proven then there may be a case that you need a BFR in each different category of aircraft as proven by accident statistics. If it can't be proven by accident statistics then it could only be instructors are after more income by trying to provide a BFR in each qualifying category.

personally, I can't see this being truthful at all because there has never been a whisper of somebody rolling up a thruster the day after they got their BFR in the plastic fantastic. If it were truthful it would have been publicised well before now but who knows what is going on in the background with the RA-Aus

[facthunter]

Let's stick to what we Know is happening. Too many rumours, If's  and Maybe's don't help Aviation Practices. . As you say where are the Issues that Justify this alleged proposal? Some people couldn't safely fly a Thruster at all.  Nev

[BrendAn]

I think it will be true because raa are under pressure from casa to lift their game after all the drama a while back. 

It actually makes some sense.

If you have taildragger endorsement but buy a nose wheel and do all your flying in that then how can raa be sure that you can handle a taildragger if you haven't been flying one for the last 2 years .

You will have to decide what endorsement you want to keep it do the bfr for both .

 

Edited yesterday at 09:18 AM by BrendAn

[BrendAn]

6 hours ago, FlyBoy1960 said:

I have no evidence of anything but if they are requiring a BFR for a high-performance aircraft and another BFR for a thruster and another BFR for something else then this would tell me something is going on in the background that would have to be validated by..

 

If accident statistics that prove if somebody had a BFR in a thruster and then immediately crashed there plastic fantastic then it would indicate a problem.

 

If accidents statistics prove they just had their BFR in a plastic fantastic and then crashed there thruster then it would indicate a problem.

 

 if this could be proven then there may be a case that you need a BFR in each different category of aircraft as proven by accident statistics. If it can't be proven by accident statistics then it could only be instructors are after more income by trying to provide a BFR in each qualifying category.

personally, I can't see this being truthful at all because there has never been a whisper of somebody rolling up a thruster the day after they got their BFR in the plastic fantastic. If it were truthful it would have been publicised well before now but who knows what is going on in the background with the RA-Aus

Plenty of changes have been happening with no advertising 

 

[Thruster88]

21 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

I think it will be true because raa are under pressure from casa to lift their game after all the drama a while back. 

It actually makes some sense.

If you have taildragger endorsement but buy a nose wheel and do all your flying in that then how can raa be sure that you can handle a taildragger if you haven't been flying one for the last 2 years .

You will have to decide what endorsement you want to keep it do the bfr for both .

 

I doubt if this is true that it it coming from CASA. I do flight reviews only in a VH aircraft  that doesn't have all the design features i am endorsed for, this covers both casa and raaus requirements. The very knowledgeable instructor has not mentioned any limitations. I subscribe to info from casa and have not seen anything on this subject. 

[BrendAn]

2 minutes ago, Thruster88 said:

I doubt if this is true that it it coming from CASA. I do flight reviews only in a VH aircraft  that doesn't have all the design features i am endorsed for, this covers both casa and raaus requirements. The very knowledgeable instructor has not mentioned any limitations. I subscribe to info from casa and have not seen anything on this subject. 

I never said it came from casa.

I said they are under pressure from casa to lift their game. They might have looked at this and decided there might be a comeback on them if their is an accident.

 

[BurnieM]

Too many maybes about what RAAus might be doing.

 

If RAAus continue to accept your CASA AFR and reset your RAAus BFR date and then disadvantage pilots who only have a RPC this would probably have an effect on RAAus membership. And if they do not accept CASA AFRs then same pushback from RAAus members and probably some questions from CASA. .... so why ?

 

[clouddancer]

Probably more to do with BFR in 3 axis, or weightshift microlight or powered parachute?

If CASA accept flight reviews which don’t cover all your design feature endorsements it makes sense for RAAus.

[BrendAn]

8 hours ago, Thruster88 said:

I doubt if this is true that it it coming from CASA. I do flight reviews only in a VH aircraft  that doesn't have all the design features i am endorsed for, this covers both casa and raaus requirements. The very knowledgeable instructor has not mentioned any limitations. I subscribe to info from casa and have not seen anything on this subject. 

I will ring raaus today and get the information direct off them.

 

[Blueadventures]

11 hours ago, BrendAn said:

I think it will be true because raa are under pressure from casa to lift their game after all the drama a while back. 

It actually makes some sense.

If you have taildragger endorsement but buy a nose wheel and do all your flying in that then how can raa be sure that you can handle a taildragger if you haven't been flying one for the last 2 years .

You will have to decide what endorsement you want to keep it do the bfr for both .

 

I recall a friend telling me he had a bfr knocked back as he had to do specific bfr each other two years when due; I don't recall if it was 2 axis / 3 axis or his water endorsement.  Only occurred in last two or so years.

[jackc]

2 hours ago, BrendAn said:

I will ring raaus today and get the information direct off them.

 

Let them point to the relevant information in writing,  to verify what they say. 

[skippydiesel]

It has been speculated that the decision, to require separate BFR for each category, has come out of the incident where a person transitioning from weight shift to conventional fixed wing (Jab) took of, against all advice, into bad weather and died as a result.

 

The perception was that the transitioning pilot had not received sufficient training/testing (BFR) in the higher weight, performance, more complex aircraft and this may have been a contributor to the incident.

 

If memory serves - many of this Forum members, felt the pilot , was a known risk taker, that it was just a matter of when rather than if,  he was involved in an incident of this kind.😈

[jackc]

Sadly RAA has lost control of our sector, mainly because members are not updated on rule changes, it’s only  when a member goes to do something, they can run foul of the RAA system?

Then when I find out 60 more  X-Air Aircraft, have been sold are flying, that are not on the RAA register.  
I have also been told many paper records were lost, in the  change over to digitisation of records.

i recently ran foul of this, in a rego transfer.  That digitisation process allegedly cost $32,000 and was not done properly. 
Missing records etc? 
So RAA are playing catchup in a few places, probably hounded by CASA?

[Blueadventures]

24 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

It has been speculated that the decision, to require separate BFR for each category, has come out of the incident where a person transitioning from weight shift to conventional fixed wing (Jab) took of, against all advice, into bad weather and died as a result.

 

The perception was that the transitioning pilot had not received sufficient training/testing (BFR) in the higher weight, performance, more complex aircraft and this may have been a contributor to the incident.

 

If memory serves - many of this Forum members, felt the pilot , was a known risk taker, that it was just a matter of when rather than if,  he was involved in an incident of this kind.😈

The requirement for the respective 2 and 3 axis BFR's in alternate two year periods has been in existence for many years, well before the mentioned event.

[BurnieM]

44 minutes ago, Blueadventures said:

The requirement for the respective 2 and 3 axis BFR's in alternate two year periods has been in existence for many years, well before the mentioned event.

Makes sense to me and not new.

 

A lot of the ‘new requirements’ posted on here seem to be based on a little bit of fact and a lot of misunderstanding. Can people PLEASE verify the facts before posting and not post ‘I heard a rumour does anybody know what’s going on…’

 

Edited 22 hours ago by BurnieM
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[FlyingVizsla]

1 hour ago, jackc said:

I have also been told many paper records were lost

Not lost - they're in the archives.  Waste of money digitising files for planes that are no longer registered and haven't been heard of for 10 years.  In our case, staff got the file out for us, scanned the pages and we'll apply to have it returned to the register under its old number.  Just finishing a few things and waiting for the ACR.

 

Have a friend who just loves bringing these old planes back to life.  He is starting on an X-Air which needs "everything" redone.  He's doing a Zenith, Thruster, a couple of unique designs - only one of each in Australia.  They all have files in the archives.