danny_galaga Posted November 5 Posted November 5 3 pob. https://www.whathifi.com/hi-fi/vinyl/vinyl-records-will-be-around-forever-the-tiny-vinyl-founders-on-the-black-discs-enduring-appeal
danny_galaga Posted November 5 Author Posted November 5 Some footage. Very tragic. Is that an engine on fire on the port side? 2
facthunter Posted November 5 Posted November 5 It seemed more near the front of the Plane to Me. Nev 1
Blueadventures Posted November 5 Posted November 5 (edited) 7 minutes ago, facthunter said: It seemed more near the front of the Plane to Me. Nev Agree, full video of push back taxi etc will be interesting. No pax so no chance to get a heads-up from cabin side unfortunately. There have been engine fires in recent times. Edited November 5 by Blueadventures 1
Marty_d Posted November 5 Posted November 5 I think it's the port engine on fire. The flames are blowing back over the wing because of the AoA which may make it look like it's further forward. 1
cherk Posted November 5 Posted November 5 2 hours ago, danny_galaga said: 3 pob. https://www.whathifi.com/hi-fi/vinyl/vinyl-records-will-be-around-forever-the-tiny-vinyl-founders-on-the-black-discs-enduring-appeal ????????????????????????????
facthunter Posted November 5 Posted November 5 The right engine is on the ground with No Pod attached. Nev 1
danny_galaga Posted November 5 Author Posted November 5 1 hour ago, cherk said: ???????????????????????????? Woops! Wrong link! 1
ClintonB Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Ground fires from impact look pretty severe. Was it working time when it hit the industrial area. A lot of buildings seem damaged. 1
onetrack Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Local time was 17:15 at the time of the crash. ASN reports that the left engine departed the wing just prior to the end of the runway. 4 fatalities on the ground, there will likely be more. /graphics/ICAOtype/MD11.gif Accident McDonnell Douglas MD-11(F) N259UP, Tuesday 4 November 2025 AVIATION-SAFETY.NET UPS flight UPS2967, a McDonnell Douglas MD-11(F), N259UP, was destroyed when it crashed shortly after takeoff from 17R at the Louisville-Muhammad Ali International Airport (SDF/KSDF), Lou... 2 1
danny_galaga Posted November 5 Author Posted November 5 Saw this other angle on the news. Murphy's Law certainly kicked in to create the maximum amount of carnage 😞 1 1
danny_galaga Posted November 6 Author Posted November 6 Update from Juan Brown. Mentions it's reminiscent of the crash in Chicago in 1979 2 1
onetrack Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I clearly remember the Chicago crash, it was one of Americas worst aviation disasters up to that time. https://www.faa.gov/lessons_learned/transport_airplane/accidents/N110AA#:~:text=American Airlines Flight 191%2C a,Airport on May 25%2C 1979. 1
facthunter Posted November 6 Posted November 6 They have been using forklifts to remove engines Lately, causing a bit of concern as the Structures get strained. It was previously done in two steps. Pod and engine. Nev 1 1
RFguy Posted November 6 Posted November 6 the chicago crash is well written up in Air Disasters 2 (Macarthur Job) 1 2
facthunter Posted November 7 Posted November 7 My bet on this one is an Uncontained Catastrophic engine failure and separation. Nev 1 1
Marty_d Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Do cargo planes have less stringent maintenance / age requirements than RPT? Just imagining how much worse this would have been with 200 pax in it.
facthunter Posted November 7 Posted November 7 They get no exemptions for being dedicated Cargo, Charter (non Regular.PT) does accept reduced standards, for route endorsements and Maybe a few other things. Nev 1
danny_galaga Posted November 7 Author Posted November 7 4 hours ago, facthunter said: My bet on this one is an Uncontained Catastrophic engine failure and separation. Nev Juan Brown is starting to think that as well on reviewing more footage 1
red750 Posted November 7 Posted November 7 It has been reported that the crew were originally meant to be on another aircraft, and this one had recently been grounded due to a leak in the fuel tank. 1
facthunter Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Could be a defect (crack) in the pylon. They have the 2 Boxes. Fuel and hydraulic lines are to the front of the Wings. Lot's of fuel. Fierce fire not visible from the cockpit. Nev
danny_galaga Posted November 8 Author Posted November 8 First minor insight into voice recorder mentioned (warning bell chiming). Also a number of different angles of crash in a video and drone footage of crash site. That footage is quite telling, it shows how extensive the damage was on the ground. https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/repeating-bell-heard-in-ups-plane-s-cockpit-as-drone-footage-reveals-crash-devastation-20251108-p5n8pu.html 1
danny_galaga Posted November 8 Author Posted November 8 Another update from Juan Brown, illustrating what 37 seconds looks like in a fully loaded MD 11. Also more discussion of the engine failure itself. 1
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