New LSA Launched at Airventure 2025

[Marty_d]

2 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

BrendAn,

 

Friend, mate what galaxy do you live in?

 

How can you say that the SE-1 is anything but an impractical (open/single cockpit), high maintenance (all metal ,polished, corrosion prone) mediocre performing (40-100 knot),  art statement  (nostalgia driven).

 

The very essence of FORM over Function. It will look great at photo shoot, parked in a hanger door, undoubtable make quiet the visual statement when it, eventually, gets to a fly-in/air show.

 

This aircraft is unlikly to arrive in Australia at much under $200,000 (if it ever gets here at all)

 

Its performance is pretty average - fuel consumption on a par with a Rotax 912 (80 hp) , Cruise similar to a lot of existing high drag STOL aircraft (without the STOL benefit) and its Stall, at 40 knots, is 10-20 knots higher (less desirable) than the aforementioned - its ALL about THE LOOK!😈

 

 

 

 

Price is USD 69,500 complete. On today's conversion that's around $106,000 in proper money. Are you saying it costs another $100k to transport a plane from the US? (Not to mention the folding wing system means it fits in a 20ft container with no fuss - tie it down and it's done).

Which also means it can sit in a single car garage instead of hangaring.

[facthunter]

Fortunately, we fly for a Multitude of reasons so DIFFERENT planes will appeal to different Aviators. There will never be a "One size fit's all".  How a Plane penetrates rough air depends a lot on Wing Loading. IF you want to go Long distances safely and when you want to, Fly with Airlines. Don't try too hard to justify the Practical aspects of owning your type of Plane. Don't rush to buy one. The Longer you look around and experience things the Better your choice will be IF you decide to Buy.. It's NOT a Must do for every Pilot.. Nev

[Blueadventures]

43 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

Price is USD 69,500 complete. On today's conversion that's around $106,000 in proper money. Are you saying it costs another $100k to transport a plane from the US? (Not to mention the folding wing system means it fits in a 20ft container with no fuss - tie it down and it's done).

Which also means it can sit in a single car garage instead of hangaring.

A two seater would be nice if they were to design and manufacture a model.  They will be enjoying get this one moving through the air with multiple owners.

[Thruster88]

A two seat version of this type of aircraft does exist, the Globe swift. For 100k aud it would be my choice over a SE1. I like old aircraft.

 

 

1946 Swift GC-1B Aircraft | Aircraft Listing | Plane Sales Australia

WWW.PLANESALES.COM.AU

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ALL REASONABLE OFFERS CONSIDERED - PRICE GUIDE $100k AUDThe 1946 Globe GC-1B Swift is a classic two-seat, low-wing monoplane known for its sleek design and responsive handling. Built with an...

 

 

 

[red750]

9 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

when it, eventually, gets to a fly-in/air show.

Did you not read the first paragraph of the opening post?

[BrendAn]

7 minutes ago, red750 said:

Did you not read the first paragraph of the opening post?

i think he missed the bit about 4 of them flying to oshkosh.😁

[facthunter]

This Motor is a No Nonsense  simple, well Built Low revving Long life direct drive Motor with the Two throat carb beneath the engine where they should be.  V engines have a lot of advantages. The whole Plane gets MY tick of approval. Good effort.  Nev

[skippydiesel]

1 hour ago, BrendAn said:

i think he missed the bit about 4 of them flying to oshkosh.😁

Oshkosh - somewhere "Beyond The Black Stumps"????

 

2 hours ago, red750 said:

Did you not read the first paragraph of the opening post?

 

You guy are a sloooow as the SE-1 😈

[skippydiesel]

9 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Price is USD 69,500 complete. On today's conversion that's around $106,000 in proper money. Are you saying it costs another $100k to transport a plane from the US? (Not to mention the folding wing system means it fits in a 20ft container with no fuss - tie it down and it's done).

Which also means it can sit in a single car garage instead of hangaring.

I don't bet but if I did I would bet on this aircraft never making it to Au for anywhere near that price UNLESS;

• You get in now , before they realise how much of a loss they are going the wear.
• The Au dollar get better than parity with the US dollar, sometime soon (in your dreams)😈

 

[onetrack]

21 hours ago, Thruster88 said:

A two seat version of this type of aircraft does exist, the Globe swift. For 100k aud it would be my choice over a SE1. I like old aircraft.

 

 

1946 Swift GC-1B Aircraft | Aircraft Listing | Plane Sales Australia

WWW.PLANESALES.COM.AU

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ALL REASONABLE OFFERS CONSIDERED - PRICE GUIDE $100k AUDThe 1946 Globe GC-1B Swift is a classic two-seat, low-wing monoplane known for its sleek design and responsive handling. Built with an...

 

 

 

 

Wow, what a little ripper of a classic light aircraft! The '57 Chevy of the aircraft world! I love it!! Now, where's that Lotto ticket!

[red750]

Here is video of the aircraft taking off from Oshkosh, and after it crashed  on landing, but not the crash itself.

 

 

 

[skippydiesel]

Stick back/elevator authority??😈

[Thruster88]

8 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Stick back/elevator authority??😈

Aircraft just landed very long on the short ultralight  strip and had to brake hard or hit the fence.  

[skippydiesel]

9 hours ago, Thruster88 said:

.... brake hard or hit the fence.  

Hmm! Does this mean that the elevator lacked sufficient authority to keep the tail down, under heavy braking?😈

 

 

[facthunter]

You have shown your ignorance there, Skip. Nev

[BrendAn]

1 hour ago, skippydiesel said:

Hmm! Does this mean that the elevator lacked sufficient authority to keep the tail down, under heavy braking?😈

 

 

I am so glad I didn't say this.😁

[skippydiesel]

Sticking with my story - all looks & minimal performance. Elevator designed for retro look , not up tp the job/function compromised for esthetics (typical septic tank)😈

Edited Thursday at 05:31 AM by skippydiesel

[onetrack]

Skippy, you're not going to have very much elevator authority at low speed. The machine quite likely tipped on its nose at very low speed, just the last few metres, along with the hard braking.

[facthunter]

IF you are properly T/W endorsed that Fundamental fact would have been explained to you. You need "wind "over the elevators and rudder before you get any reaction from them. Also REMEMBER where you were taught to Have the elevators when taxiing downwind.?? Nev

[facthunter]

The design of the tail feathers is normal and proven effective and not JUST for a retro Look as you seem to be fixated on. The very light weight of the Plane doesn't help but Low speed tipping on the Nose is getting more common. This Pilot had no other option. The placement of the Mainwheels also has a bit to do with How Much brake can be applied.  Nev

[onetrack]

Spirit Engineering has sold 18 of these little beasts already, and are struggling to fill the orders flooding in.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=26384305904505092

 

[Marty_d]

Good on them. I'd buy one if I had the dosh and the Aussie dollar was worth $2 US. Hmm, give it a few months for the second criteria.

[skippydiesel]

Each to his own.

 

I see them as an unfortunate throw back, featuring most, if not all, of the deficiencies of aircarft from a bygone area.

 

I see the aesthetic appeal, that for some, overrides all the deficiencies.

 

Ultimately a rich persons fantasi toy, akin to having a very expensive, totally impractical, sports car - At least the modern sports car would likely be comfortable, require comparatively minimal maintenance and have safe handling characteristics.

 

IF it was from the erra it emulates, there would be some value in its vintage status  but a repo????😈

[BrendAn]

3 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Each to his own.

 

I see them as an unfortunate throw back, featuring most, if not all, of the deficiencies of aircarft from a bygone area.

 

I see the aesthetic appeal, that for some, overrides all the deficiencies.

 

Ultimately a rich persons fantasi toy, akin to having a very expensive, totally impractical, sports car - At least the modern sports car would likely be comfortable, require comparatively minimal maintenance and have safe handling characteristics.

 

IF it was from the erra it emulates, there would be some value in its vintage status  but a repo????😈

What a load of rubbish. Classic skip with a bee in his bonnet 

[facthunter]

 And totally DEAF  to facts because HE HAS his OWN "Facts" OR Preconceptions and there's NO POINT IN trying to convince him other wise.. . Nev