turboplanner

Thing that pee's me off is when a poster makes an outrageous statement that would do Ray Hadley proud without any attempt to source the "information". Who can give any credence to a claim that some of Melbourne's homeless earn "$1,000 per day." Please respect the members of this forum by not trolling like a tabloid journalist or a shock jock.

Do you know how many people pass that location to Flinders Street Station every day?

 

 

Turbs, you believe in the system more than some of us. I think most of our fellow voters are apathetic and they tend to vote for the biggest advertising party.

Voters sh!t me to tears; I've looked at election results, and seen the Booth figures, and when things are rumbling along like they have been for the last few years, I cant believe that booth figures often don't vary more than ten or so votes from the previous election, and for that matter previous State election. They should be sending messages all the time. However, when they do realise something is wrong they let go with a massive swing, such as when Whitlam tried to govern without Supply.

 

So the parties are not able to cross big money interests , especially if they are donors (or potential donors for the other lot), and that is why we don't actually have a democracy.

If you are a Candidate and you say "What's my budget", and the Party says "Nothing; you have to raise the funds", then you have to go out and get some serious money in a few weeks, so you may be tempted to do a few favours, but you won't be around for long. The big money usually hedges its bets and gives a share to each party.

 

The sugar tax is a good example of how it works. It would be great if more bi-partisanship were there.

Don't know what you are referring to.

 

Maybe aviation could provide an example with reform on unused controlled airspace... fat chance.

Told you not to talk about that.

 

 

Why don't you make an appointment to visit his electoral office and talk to him when he is available?

Never mind what the ABC says Bruce, Nick Champion will be talking to like minded politicians in Canberra, regardless of their Party, which comes as a surprise to most commentators who think the Prime Minister of the day is the only one working. So although he may be Labor, and the Chair of any Senate Committee will be a Coalition Member, they are usually Bipartisan.

Any information you can provide (other than I want to fly over the Mount Lofty ranges) will be going into the mix of those discussions.

 

 

I have emailed my (labor, Nick Champion ) local member twice. The first was to congratulate him on doing some control on where welfare money was spent. They are doing a test in the area about giving only half of the welfare as cash with the rest being earmarked for necessities and he was one of the prime movers of the test. Participation is voluntary.He has got criticism for " attacking vulnerable peoples' self esteem " . Personally, I thought it was too weak to do much good but it was a start. ( I didn't say this in the email ).

Why don't you make an appointment to visit his electoral office and talk to him when he is available?

 

 

Is Cherokee BUN still around Stevron?

 

 

All good Turbs, but you didn't point out what a tough job it would be;most of those proposals are fiercely opposed by well-funded vested interests.

They hire PR companies who place editorial and ads, and go and talk to their Members. All of Bruce’s issues can be addressed by the government. What I find over and over again is that someone bitterly complains but has never raised the issue. On Some items Bruce may not get support from his fellow Australians. The homeless issue has become a buzz lately; but some of the people sleeping on Melbourne streets who were moved on recently were earning $1,000 per day.

 

 

Look at what is likely to go wrong and who has the duty of care.

 

If sub standard bolts have been used on the hangar the owner and builder most likely will be paying. If you fit A sub standard battery and it burns the place down injuring a caretaker they are probably going to come after you etc.

 

 

Strange how we call ourselves a democracy but there are several things I want a vote on and its not going to happen.1. Number of immigrants

2. Sugar tax

 

3. Level of military spending

 

4. cashless welfare ( credit cards ) for welfare dependent people unable to control their drug spending.

 

5. voluntary euthanasia for suffering people

 

6. appropriate housing for homeless.

 

There would be more but that's my start.. I reckon a majority of people would also like a vote on these things.

We are a democracy; you voted for someone to represent you in the House of Representatives and for someone to represent your interests in your State in the Senate.

 

If you want the person you voted for to do something specific you can pick up the phone and speak to him or her (although I'd leave it for a few days just at present), or you can send an email, or you can write., or you can have a meeting. I know you know that but 99% of people don't do it. Members don't have ESP.

 

There is a second way you can get a message across, which is more powerful; Become a Member of a Party, attend their meetings, particularly State Councils, put up a Resolution and watch it get traction at the Local, State and Federal Conference level.

 

Your items 1 to 6 are all hot discussions within the Parties rights now, and you might be amazed at the hundreds of support votes you would get.

 

In the Labor Party, Resolutions carried are binding on the Parliamentary members - they become Labor Policy.

 

The Liberal Party is slightly more relaxed, Resolutions Carried are recommendations to the Parliamentary Party; ( but they always need to be mindful that there may be a problem next time preselection comes around.

 

So in our system you not only have the right to vote for a person of your choice to represent you but have a say in the policy as well.

 

There are MANY occasions where a Resolution put up by a single member of a Party is Mandated into Law - so hop to it!

 

 

It's when you're just about to touch down when you realise it's the taxiway...

Should have gone to Specsavers. They must look across and say "I wonder what that big wide lane is over there?

 

 

There's no Aviation minister (1/2 the problem) It's in the "Transport and Infrastructure" portfolio with the Nat's McCormack I believe (unchanged). Nev

The Department has expanded again; it's now Department of Infrastructure, Regional Development and Cities

Its responsibilities are:

 

We're further away from the Minister than ever.

 

 

The massive drag on the Stuka was primarily the multiple bomb load it carried into attack

 

It's slow speed was solved by the strategy of coming into the target range very high, then diving almost vertically down on the target.

 

 

The directors of a company limited by guarantee are more accountable in law than the officers of an association. I have been both.

That technically is true, but it relates to financial issues; Incorporated Association officials can certainly be prosecuted for crimes, but a level of protection, which recognises that volunteers and sporting officials come from a peer group with less office skills, and that's the reason for a level of immunity provided they abide by their constitution.

However, the reason sporting groups use Incorporated Associations in the first place is that they give much better, and much more flexible control to the members.

 

The argument, repeated over and over again before the RAA vote to switch to a limited company that RAA "was no longer like a cricket club, and needed to be more professional, like a company" has now been exposed as propaganda.

 

 

Double flaring?

I think it’s what he used to do in the 727s; slam it on the ground then flare again after the bounce!

 

 

Self Administering Associations usually have compliance and enforcement procedures with sanctions to control behaviour ranging from advice, warning, licence suspension for various periods (1 month, 6 months, 12 months, permanent), with natural justice via an appeals process. This was one of the things RAA Inc never got around to, and nor has RAA Ltd.

 

With that system in place the airfield can advise RAA of non payment and RAA can take care of it with no need to disclose personal details of the offender.

 

 

I think you missed the point. I was not referring to RAA pilots, why would they anyway. If you are not aware of this rife behaviour you need to get away from the coast for a while.

Same applies to GA smart alecs who use a false call sign or don’t call at deserted fields. It might surprise some people who travel out from the cities just how visible you are within the radio range in terms of departure and arrival times, particularly when call sign AAA leaves point A and three hours later call sign BBN lands at point B exactly on a typical cruise time

 

 

My last comment on this matter, I pay and contribute to my local air facility , I am involved with our local flying club , I am a member of an other flying club , keeping this in mind , I am contributing to the maintenance and financial operation of these air facilities. My piont is, I am paying at my home airport facilities either by cash support or my free labour , payments like the local council for hangar rates and ground lease fees which appears to rise and rise yearly and an annual airport landing fee ,not to mention Air services fees.Now it’s expected that I pay for someone else’s facility ,that’s double dipping.

I simply say ; You pay for yours and I pay for mine we are even .

I pay for electricity in my home; I travel and pay a Motel which uses part of that payment to pay for the electricity I use there.

 

No problem with your argument if you only fly at Albury.

 

But you pay to fly into any airfield which has a fee system.

 

 

Why worry.....Just do a go around !

Jethro has virtually no flying experience, which he explained in Post 1, so he’s missing the compensations we would use without even thinking about it. On the other hand he has a prodigious appetite for reasearch which is going to do him no harm at all.

 

 

Well, ground effect machine anyway.

 

 

Cost of insurance is a slightly different subject; are you referring to low flying in trees, or the type of aircraft?

 

Is there a history of insurance claims?

 

Warren Buffet secured Berkshire Hathaway, his first company purchase. BH owned a number of cotton mills in the US, around the time people started buying clothes, particularly T Shirts from China. He bought the mills cheap, and tried to make them more efficient, but it was no use, the Chinese beat him, so he had BH buy an Insurance Company, Geico.

 

Today a Berkshire Hathaway Class A share is worth $304,180.00

 

BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC.

 

What he had observed about insurance companies was:

 

(a) You get to lay off the price against the payouts, much the same as a bookie

 

(b) You get payment up front, which you can invest, and you pay out much later, after you've made a substantial gain on your money.

 

No need to do things like defrauding customers by finding ways not to pay out. (sometimes this is done by brokers who take your premium, but don't pass it on to the insurance company)

 

 

Grass cutting at 1/2 to 1 day would cost approx $250. - $500 x about 5 cuts per year with a volunteer on the tractor.

 

 

RAA not publishing names and addresses is hardly the same as "widespread avoidance and effort to use the fields while remaining anonymous.", by rec pilots.

It has that effect though doesn’t it; in fact it couldn’t be more widespread.

 

 

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Nothing illegal about denying liability, losing files, asking for resubmissions or requesting medical reports. It’s standard practice. Inconvenient, unconscionable but not illegal. That’s why they do it.

These are the things I referred to as strategies; frustrating but can’t do you any harm, but there are suggestions above that they illegally evade paying you out.

 

 

My (albeit limited) knowledge of insurers is that as soon as they face a large payout they will deny liability and tell the insured to pass on all letters of demand (which they will then lose or deny receiving them - standard procedures). The insurer then tells the claimants to start legal proceedings against the insured before they will even acknowledge the claim exists, and in phone calls to the claimants they will hint that they will drag out the legal process for years, but "we could settle for 10% of your claim with a confidentiality agreement".I attended a worker's comp insurance seminar (run by our insurer but using a training company) and they explained in great detail how the insurance industry would process all claims made upon them, My notes - "Never accept liability, lose the claim, resubmit claim, ask for expensive medical reports by Dr XXX, lose all the reports and blame the claimant, attempt to bankrupt claimant, appeal any court settlement".

That’s a bit of wishful thinking, and they do use strategies, but they have to abide by the law. Quite often people bitch about them, when the terms and conditions are perfectly clear.

 

 

I have had a thought , a revaluation really . Let’s have all VH planes pay a yearly Reg fee, license fee and share this money around the needy airport operators.that would solve the problem . VH plane operators currently save money by not paying registration fees like we do in RA , so let’s collect $ 280 a year licence fee and say another $150 registration fee , hell , what a great idea. Correct me if I am wrong , but fuel companies own petrol pumping equipment. Well the do around here anyway

VH Aircraft are the legitimate aircraft as laid down by the Government, with CASA administering. You are flying, for the moment, (if it's not VH) a machine which operates under exemptions to the law approved by CASA. CASA can withdraw those exemptions, or the Government can order CASA to withdraw them; so I wouldn't go poking sticks in a thread about RAA and landing fees, you don't want to be seen a just a bunch of nuisances.

 

 

It was quoted direct from the link (click on it) TP!

Looked at it

 

I suspect the changed flight characteristics and aircraft attitude of the final flaps stage is more difficult too handle, making it of little value for normal landings.

You have to look at the overall aircraft profile; it's got a bulky fuselage, but excellent elevator and rudder control. I spent 28 hours in Victas and went through training in flapless, and shortfield landings, normal landings were full flap; a lot easier to fly than a Jab.

 

I was musing the steeper glide angle may be helpful in forced landings over obstacles (not standard landings) in the hands of a pilot able to use it.

You might be able to find some full flap glide angle data somewhere, but in my opinion visibility on shortfield landings was a bigger advantage than any noticeable glide angle. It stalls at 45 kts with full flap and we were trained at 50 for shortfields.I

 

Your comment about the Cherokee suggests the Airtourer needed a way to slow it up!? It could be that carrying the flaps under the fuselage improves flap efficiency and it has little to do with belly flap justification on other aircraft.

No, no problem in slowing it up, just lift the nose like any other aircraft. What I was getting at was at normal approach with full flap, I can still land the heavier four place Cherokee in a shorter distance. The approach speeds are about the same, so when you take the feature in the Millicer design, it doesn't make much different aircraft to aircraft (it nevertheless still could make the Victa a better aircraft than it would have been without it).