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.....tumble which came to the attention of the CWA senior management. What might possibly, at times, perhaps accidentally occurred at the Gumly Gumply Branch would not be tolerated in the City where Rules were Rules and Members were expected to set a good example of "doing the right thing" which no matter how loosely translated did not get anywhere near what Cappy had been up to. So a sub committee of five matrons was sent to Wagga Wagga, and by a million to one chance, because he normally never gets out of bed at that time, who should be at the Airport but Loxie, who promptly booked them in to BoB Lodge which had been added to the BoB to bring in some cash while it was closed to its normal close contact activities, due to Covid.

It didn't help that Loxie disguised the attached side entrace of the Bob as the Grill Room and Bistro. Dressed formally for dinner, the five opened the door and .............

.......an inevitable finish since Cappy had marked the deck with near invisible identifiers.

It always ended with ............

.....you needed to prove to the wife that you haed indeed flown to a BBQ breakfast in a faraway town. We shouldn't mention any names in particular, but Cappy has that problem all the time, and many of the so-called "phantom calls" which can't be verified and never paid for are simply Cappy calling every hour or so from the hangar where ...............

18 hours ago, Bruce Tuncks said:

I'm very cautious in real life. Once I turned down a chance to fly a Gruneau Baby vintage glider. I was worried that I might do a real bad landing and I didn't like the lack of crash protection and the upright seating position.

Another time, I turned down the chance to be passenger for a Chipmunk aerobatic flight. I was worried about the 60 year-old mainspar and whether it had any corrosion or not.

What a coward, I hear you guys thinking....

 

I don't think it's being a coward. Living your life out while flying is something most pilots do. The reason they get to  live so long, not even with injuries is making choices.

In your case you removed two possibilities of an early demise;  "if you don't do it, it can't go wrong" is the safest action of all.

10 minutes ago, Jeffmel said:

That's something new, I've never been told RAAUS and GA standards are so different. 

 

I remember came across some ads saying their Jabiru was registered in GA and now registered with RA. that means there are should not be any major differences?

You can use a knife to eat your dinner or cut someone’s throat. 
 

.........to the left" adding in true RA radio protocol fashion "Why do I have to fly at these odd height thingys" to no one in particular, but the Tasmanian ATC had picked up the call, identified the cadence and was waiting at Perth Airport when bull arrived several days later than his radio call indicated, and ................................

1 hour ago, Jeffmel said:

That's why I'm so keen to know the reliability and maintenance cost for the J160.

 

Again I'm only looking to do max 200hrs out of it then sell it. If I rent a similar one from school that's 200*$120=24000. I'm positive I can sell it at similar price but I'll say selling at -$4000 of purchasing price. 

 

Which means, during my prospective 3 years ownership, if maintenance plus parking plus insurance, can be less than $20000, id be better off buying it, plus the convenience of much flexible timetable

My 10c

(a) $24,000 > $20,000 is just proposed purchase price. Total cost includes membership, fees, hangarage, maintenance, component failures, insurance costs and more.

(b) You didn't mention (or factor in?) waste hours where you start flying and learning to RA standards; then have to forget those and spend extra hours flying for the procedures required by GA but not required by RA, then Nav standards for GA, etc. It is much harder to unlearn processes you'll never need in an aviation career, and relearn them.

I've seen your questions asked by a lot of young pilots who finished up paying more and losing time to get to a satisfactory CPL standard. It's been some of the people they met on the way through PPL and CPL who've mentored them into work, which is not the easiest thing to come by at the beginning.

..........differential and had to stop on a notorious curved where Road Trains driven by sleeping drivers regularly took out the few white posts remaining in the Great State of WA and ..................

1 hour ago, Jeffmel said:

I was told the same. 

 

The cheapest and quickest way of is get RPC, nav and pax endorsement, then convert to RPL.

 

After the conversation, can I still fly an RA and accumulate the hrs into GA, I'm not sure

This is a good way to get confused during the two different types of training, and finish up doing more hours which offsets the cheaper AC rates. Buying your own aircraft doesn't save you money, you get all the joys of  tearing up hundred dollar bills because you are paying every dollar for every problem. Just think of the times you've been told XXXX is away for a few weeks getting a new engine or a new nose wheel etc. Worthwhile thinking the whole thing through. Nothing wrong with a J160, but the dollars owning your own aircraft training for eventual GA is not as simple as some people say expecially if they've never done a Total Cost of Life spreadsheet.

....made the calls to the Secretary-General. Trouble was when one got through the other got an engaged signal. and this kept on going on all afternoon after the one who got through hung up and waited for the other to get through until.......

.......the people grubbing money out or rich aviators, or he usually was but on this occasion he had become caught up in the panic of the general WF dudes, and was starting to shake at the thought that half his relatives may be dying as a result for being vaccinated for Covid, particularly since all the base vaccines were produced by Trackbine Pharma (Littele Pharma) right next to an artesian bore in .................

.....not personal, I like Scomo, it's a matter of economics.

And so he changed his callsign, but only when flying in to airports which charged landing fees,

So Airservices which see and hear everything everywhere would hear him calling as "bull" throughout the progress of the flight, but at the destination airport, with the same voice, accent and deflections and grammar, bull would cleverly call "Brahman Inbound"

Being Tasmania, the ATC nearest bull's home field took an interest because the couple who owned the airport which advertised "free steak breakfasts on Sundays", his brother and sister, had been complaining of this "Brahman" coming in with duct tape over the numbers, and not paying. Being an ATC, so as smart as a whip, the ATC worked out the name association and ..........

......the people at  Mobile Teleprompter who fly in front of him showing all the radio calls. Quite often bull would lose track and start following someone else, yelling at them to turn the teleprompter in while the teleprompter aircraft now back in the queue had the following aircraft making bull’s calls out of synch and soon there woul be a .......

20 hours ago, tillmanr said:

All too many confuse two major conflicts here.

 These are firstly, advice on defence materiel is given by defence panels and secondly, the government who then makes the decisions on  what contracts are awarded.

Australian governments from both parties have ignored defence choices for many years on too many occasions because they are chasing the short term voting popularity. At times contradicting defence advice.

Our military personnel are then forced to operate the provided hardware and only speak in glowing terms about it.

Yes, something NQR between the two.

...weapons, but missed, as Turbo and his guests had just stood up and walked over to the Corvette.

The Corvette is built in Bowling Green, Kentucky and not many people know that it carries the history of the original "Stock Cars" which outwardly were standard cars, but were fitted with moonshine tanks for the night runs to New York. Every Corvette has a tiny replica of this tank with a little tap for moonshine, and since Gloria Jeans didn't sell whisky, Turbo was charging their cups.

It was just enough time for an ATC call to bull to "land immediately at Moorabbin Airport and report to Tower for instructions" The "Land Immediately is not used very often these days, but when it is the whole frequency [avref] goes quite and everyone starts listening intently, not to mention getting into the correct position in the circuit and staying on the correct height...............

....attack the Latte Set instead because they were the ones who came back from places like Aspen at the beginning of the pandemic and infected everyone they could find, so he turned his attention to the Coffee Precincts. It was a smart ove because there were six of them throughout Melbourne and the Tyros wings had both bent at different angles so he could finish up anywhere. A bit of fibreglass had broken off and caught in the siren's vanes so the siren now sounded like the reversing whisper on a Hilux. As he swayed and bounced he realised .........

  .....one of the Premier’s 141 staff who was busy lining up a date and forgot about it until Senior Adviser saw the note on her desk and.....

33 minutes ago, SGM said:

The $1584 is for $51k hull AND $1m Combined Single Limit of liability

I'd suggest you get some more advice.

Payouts for a death would be approx $3 million, injuries from a few thousand to a Quadriplegic around $13 million, so around $15 to $20 million PL would be the norm.

One issue with multiple covers, ie RAA for the $20 million external/$250,000  for passenger is that sometimes they don't agree; one might decide to sett the other not etc so it gets complicated.

36 minutes ago, SGM said:

On the topic of insurance our renewal was due a couple of weeks ago, and I don't mined sharing my experience.

We had $50k hull through PSB (Insurance House), for which the renewal was $1921 with a $1500 excess.  I got an alternative quote via Bill Owen/Agile for $51k (which was bizarrely cheaper than $50k) with $1000 excess.  This was $1221.  This included the "new for old" bolt on.

In the end we decided on increased coverage over last year, specifically the $1m Limit of Liability, largely to protect a passenger (most likely spouse/family member) in the event that any (ongoing) medical expenses are required as a result of an accident and they exceed the RAAus amount .  This cost us $1584, so significantly less than both last year and the renewal.

The note that came with Bill Owen quote is below.

Obviously insurance is a highly personal perception of risk likelihood and consequence, so I don't suggest what we decided appropriate for everyone... but I get consistent free advice from this forum so I am happy to share.

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Liability Limit:

We also strongly recommend a minimum limit of liability as part of your aircraft insurance as the liability attached to the RAAus membership is limited.  Also the biggest risk with aircraft ownership is not the loss of the hull, but the legal liability you take on as the owner, which can amount to millions of dollars in the event of a claim that involves property damage / bodily injury / death to either passengers or third party (i.e. people / property outside of the aircraft).

 

Additionally, if the aircraft is owned by an individual and the Combined Single Limit of liability is exceeded in the event of a claim, everything personally owned is potentially exposed to claimants, particularly the family home. Of course, the decision is yours, however we do strongly recommend you consider a Combined Single Limit as part of your policy

That $1584 for PL sounds about right. Did you get $10 million cover for that?

The good thing about Self Administration is that there is no prescriptive regulation telling you what to do under Strict Liability.

If you want to mix in flight briefings with your own outline or opinion of your legal obligations you can; just remember you are liable for your advice.

Ask RAA.

MANY GA pilots have come unstuck on low inertia aircraft.

The training syllabus is different.

The requirement is for a Pilot Certificate, which he can train for (again for what it's worth a lot of GA pilots require several hours of training.

....him to show cause why he did it, and reminded him it was an offence of strict liability.

His response was simple "They were Tasmanians"

CASA responded with "Keep up the good work!" and an elephant stamp.

51 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Part of your RAAus PAX endorsement is "briefing" safety aspects like seat belt fastening and release, keeping feet etc from interfering with control movement and emergency exiting important aspects.. 

It is but we're talking specifically about the plaque.

5 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Sorry Turbs - I can agree. If you stick to a factual script,  that seeks to inform (not persuade) you are enhancing understanding (of risk) not increasing your own vulnerability to litigation. Ignorance in a form is a far greater risk than education.

People don't do that, they speak in the moment. If for example you passenger arcs up and wants to get out when he sees the notice, and they say something like "I know that's what the placque says but that doesn't apply to us; I'm a very safe pilot, never had an accident etc". He's departed from the script and the advice he gave was incorrect".

1 minute ago, Bruce Tuncks said:

There was a lot who advertised family trusts as a way of being too poor to attract big claims. I don't think it worked cos they have not advertised lately. Does anybody know the story?

It's a bit like the fables of numbered Swiss Bank accounts and accounts in the Cayman Islands - both by law will provide your information to the US Internal Revenue Service if you are avoiding income tax. 

There is legislation to protect plaintiffs from people who try to minimise their assets by transferring them out of their name. Can't remember what it is, but insurance is a lot smarter.