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Hi All

On Tuesday night staff had their first meeting and I want to be able to keep you informed of the outcomes of meetings within a day or two of each meeting so here are my (unconfirmed) notes of the meeting.

Attendees:

Ian Baker (Ian)

Carol Richards (Cazza)

Maynard Robinson (Robinsm)

David Isaac

Steven Beck (Ahlocks)

Absent:

Steve Bell

Recreational Flying Aviation Awareness Program - Carol Richards

1. Create a promotional video on a DVD that can be distributed to Flying Clubs and Schools that includes young people getting into aviation, learning to fly, some greats that have started an aviation career from recreational aviation.
    
    
   
2. Organise and assist Flying Clubs and Schools to create a relationship with local secondary schools
    
    
   
3. Create a bullet point talk list that clubs and schools can use to give presentations on recreational aviation and aviation as a career to secondary schools.
    
    
   
4. Assist Flying Clubs and Schools to engage speakers such as commercial pilots from Airlines if they would like
    
    
   
5. Explore avenues of funding for this initiative
    
    
   
6. SB (Ahlocks to explore relationship with REX if at all possible)...relationships with Qantas, JetStar, Virgin is also worth a try but just noted at this stage
    
    
   

Recreational Flying Workshops Program - Steve Bell

1. Steve Bell had previously come up with the following suggested workshops:
    
    
    
    
   
2. We can start with the “owner builder maintenance training” weekend – with at least 1.5 days practical (with the help of the local L2s). Max 12 students Min 4.
    
    
   
3. Then a one day L1 training course with ½ day prac- again with the help of the local L2s. Max 12 students Min 4.
    
    
   
4. Perhaps even a L4 training day (now we could invite the SAAA to add to this one for their inspectors?) Max 12 students Min 4.
    
    
   
5. Finally we can arrange a full 5 day L2 starters course, but this needs a little more admin. Max 12 students Min 4.
    
    
   
6. In addition if we can get CASAs acceptance we can also run a number of 2-3 day LSA C of A courses.
    
    
   
7. The other thing we can do is talk to each club and see what they want.
    
    
    
   
8. Explore the potential use of web conferencing class rooms (max 15 persons) for small workshop titles which could even include special presentations by invited presenters and not be limited to Maintenance (Ian under website program)
    
    
   
9. Explore a sequence of 1hr themed workshops held each week electronically
    
    
   
10. Offer Recreational Flying Workshops to Clubs and Schools for their own members as a group
     
    Recreational Flying Chapter Program - Maynard Robinson
     
     
     
    
11. Initiate discussions with existing Flying Clubs and Schools to ascertain what Recreational Flying could do to help them
     
     
    
12. Formulate a Chapter System framework that is beneficial to both website members and flying clubs and schools
     
     
    
13. Assist website users to form their own regional chapters and get their Flying Clubs and Schools involved so they to benefit by being associated with them for events etc
     
     
    
14. Recreational Flying to support Club and School events in any way possible
     
     
    
15. Tie in Recreational Flying initiatives with flying clubs and schools (Website, Workshops, Aviation Awareness etc)
     
     
    

Governing Bodies - David Isaac

(Strategic and hence confidential due to being Work In Progress)

Website - Ian

1. Based on feedback from Clubs and Schools, create an environment (area) that supports the needs of Flying Clubs and Schools
    
    
   
2. Investigate electronic means of delivering/holding special events and weekly themed workshops
    
    
   
3. Based on the Recreational Flying Chapter Framework, investigate Recreational Flying also having a "Financial Member" user category with a small annual membership fee ($20 - $30?) to provide financial support in covering the costs of initiatives (eg $550 for web workshop classrooms, percentage goes to Chapters etc. But what can we give to members in return??????...their own group of private forums, first choice bookings on special events and workshops, monthly electronic magazine????
    
    
   
4. Create a private forum for staff members to discuss the work in progress of initiatives
    
    
   

Initiatives marked for further discussion:

A National Recreational Flying Aviation Week with organised displays and vast media representations

Possible petition to be created to obtain support that RAAus initiates a member category that allows under 14.5 year olds to obtain experiences in aviation and learning to fly under 100% control of an instructor

General Discussion:

General discussion seemed to roam around the picking on Ahlocks and blaming him for anything and everything.

Next Meeting:

The next meeting will be held in 3 weeks on Tuesday 22nd May at 7pm

I am sure you all would support me in saying a huge thanks to the above people for their passion and help in taking some great initiatives forward for all recreational aviators and the industry in general.

Aviation enthusiast site is very quick!

That site uses vBulletin and whilst it is better suited to our needs in terms of features, it is very labour intensive to maintain compared to the Xenforo software we use here plus I have invested over a thousand dollars in this forum software with extras things and so on. I asked the question before:

http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/urgent-poll.33606/#post-198837

which resulted in a neck and neck response. The main problem was there are no off the shelf converters available to convert the Xenforo forums data over to vBulletin data format thus incurring further costs and impact to users.

And in reality I wouldn't like to guess whether vBulletin (as in the Enthusiasts site) would eliminate any problems that are being experienced now until it was put under load with all the threads, posts and users accessing the site...anyone want to buy a website

Regarding cache, remember that if you have very little hard disk space left in your PC, there may not be any room left for your web cache...or...you may have your cache setting too low.

Here is a screen shot of my Firefox settings that show I am using 36.5meg of cache and that I have NOT limited the cache to 1024:

For those using Firefox, you could try clicking the "Clear Now" button next to the cache setting and then go on to the site and see if it is faster going back and forth between the same pages thus using the cache instead of pulling down the same files again and again.

Also, whilst I am here, just make sure that you have "Enable JavaScript" ticked to make sure the site works properly for you.

I have sought help from the forums of the forum software people and they have suggested a couple of modifications to the server. Even though the server is using next to nothing of it capacity:

Server load 0.11 (8 CPUs)

Memory Used 12.16% (1,982,892 of 16,311,948)

Swap Used 0% (0 of 2,097,144)

there are a couple of little changes that I can do before I do anything radical.

One thing that was mentioned was that non-current versions of web browsers can have a slowing down impact on the forum software so if you are using old versions of Firefox/Internet Explorer/Safari etc, then please see if you can update to the latest versions and check if that resolves any problems...I am using Firefox v.12

Thanks 80knts...I really think that it is localised to a couple of users, and possibly to some others that haven't said anything, perhaps even left...so I need to get to the bottom of it but it could be a needle in a haystack to individual PC setup which is no good as well as you shouldn't have to have a certain PC setup just to use the site.

When you say "old site", do you mean the site software we were using just over 1 year ago?

Do you still have the same problem if you go to http://www.aviationenthusiasts.net/ register, login and use that site?

Ok, what I will do to test some scenarios is set the site up on another domain in its vanilla state...this means just the forums with the forum software set to nearly its default. I will get you to test it then and let me know if the problem still exists...if it doesn't then it is obviously some other software that I have running on the site...could be an addon, security monitoring/logging, crons that could be running etc...will advise when I have done this however it will take most of today to do it.

Is it all pages or just the first one when you come to the site?

It sounds like your PC isn't caching the items thus it is downloading the same things every page instead of pulling them up from your PC.

I have Optus Cable and it is pretty much instant display for me (using Firefox). What ISP and browser are you using?

The server is in the US and Pud would be the furthest away from it (WA -> Syd -> US -> Syd -> WA) and he isn't being impacted so it sounds like it is localised to your PC, your Internet Connection, your ISP or something the missus has done to your PC to frustrate you so much that you will get off the PC

Or then you could try the shop here on this site and then you are also supporting this site...have a look on the Wicks site http://www.wicksaircraft.com/ and anything that is on there you can get from the shop here at the same price that Wicks have it and the shop here handles it all for you.

Are you standing against Runciman Ross?

I would be looking for the cause and fix that as well as using vinegar...it's just that I am getting an uneasy feeling about all this Flyerme...please be careful!

Thankyou to all volunteers and to the newest member of the team, Maynard.It is interesting to see that Steve has the job of 'Ahlocks', does that mean he is looking after himself!!

Pud

Hi All

I would like to welcome Maynard Robinson (Robinsm) to the staff of Recreational Flying. Maynard will be looking into the Clubs/Schools and Recreational Flying Chapters initiative.

Already Recreational Flying offers Clubs and Schools a load of resources here like free web hosting of their web site, free credit card facilities, a dedicated group like forum for their members/students and more however we would like to introduce even more facilities to them, even becoming a Recreational Flying Chapter along with its associated benefits including the connections with the Workshops, the promotion of recreational aviation etc, along with even greater initiatives that are coming. By communicating with the Clubs and Schools, Maynard will bring to the team a raft of opportunities that we can implement here for them which in turn benefits all.

The Recreational Flying Team comprises of a group of volunteers that will work towards assisting you in the same vein that this site is all about in that we are wanting to provide mechanisms that will support you and your recreational flying...the team is:

Maynard Robinson (Clubs and Schools Liaison)

Steve Bell (Workshops)

Carol Richards (Special Projects)

David Isaac (Governing Bodies)

Steve ("Ahlocks")

Myself (Website)

There are also 4 independent volunteer moderators

Plus a team of Student Mentors: Motzartmerv, djpacro, Mazda and RocketDriver

This great site is what it is because of these volunteers who all share the same passion of recreational flying and are willing to help in some way to make recreational flying better for everyone.

Over the next 12 months you will see many great initiatives come your way here at Recreational Flying which I hope you all will find useful in some way in your flying endeavours.

Thanks again to Maynard for coming on board...to start things rolling, our first group meeting is scheduled for next week, the first week of May and I hope to be able to keep everyone informed as we progress through initiating these great ideas

From the Director of Aviation Safety

John McCormick

I have flagged before that over the next few years a large body of work will be completed in the modernisation of Australia's aviation safety regulations. Coming relatively soon will be a suite of new operational regulations, firstly covering flight crew licensing and training and then flight operations. Updating these regulations will bring a wide range of benefits to the aviation industry, while improving and refining our safety systems. CASA is not seeking to rewrite the rules for the sake of the exercise. We are adopting the most appropriate international standards, bringing our rules into line with evolving technologies and and best regulatory practice, while consolidating and simplifying the existing rules we are retaining. The end result will be a more mature Australian aviation safety system that is keeping pace with the requirements of safety and the needs of the aviation industry in the 21st century.

However, bringing in whole new suites of safety regulations will require change on the part of almost everyone and, to a greater or lesser degree, change throws up challenges. One thing everyone in aviation must recognise and accept is that there will be a need to transition to the new regulations. In some cases, this will be very simple and require little action. In other cases, there will be some effort required on the part of individuals and organisations. Last year, we successfully moved all licensed aircraft maintenance engineers to new licences issued under Part 66 of the new maintenance regulations. Right now we are working with a range of organisations on the transition to other parts of the maintenance regulations. While I will not pretend there are no challenges, the process of transition is underway. What I can assure everyone is that CASA will provide appropriate education, training, advice and support to people and organisations as they transition to the new regulations.

To make sure everyone in aviation gets the support they need I have appointed an executive manager to a newly created position. This position is known as program director, Operational Regulations Implementation. Greg Hood, our current executive manager Operations, will take up this role on a temporary basis to direct and co-ordinate the planning that is starting right now on the implementation of the next suites of the new rules. Greg's goal will be to build a platform for the launch of an efficient and effective transition to the new regulations over the next five years. We will be identifying your needs and finding the best ways to give you the information, tools and support required to move to the new rules in a manner that does not disrupt your normal operations. This will be our aim for all people and organisations, from the largest airline to the recreational pilot. There is a lot of work to be done but it is underway right now.

Recently, I delivered a speech to the Aviation Law Association of Australia and New Zealand, which sets out the regulatory development agenda. Please read it to find an update on what is coming in the next few years.

Aviation Law Association of Australia & New Zealand 2012 Conference

Best regards

John F McCormick

Deadline looms for transition to new maintenance regs

Organisations that need to transition to the new maintenance regulations are being warned to start the process as soon as possible. The deadline for moving across to the new regulations is 26 June 2013. From that date all organisations maintaining regular public transport aircraft and aeronautical products must have an approval from CASA under Part 145 of the new maintenance regulations. All regular public transport air operators will also require an approval issued under Part 42 of the maintenance regulations from 26 June 2013. CASA will not issue any extensions beyond the deadline, so it is very important for affected maintenance organisations and regular public transport operators to start work on transition now.

In total more than 200 maintenance organisations will need to move under Part 145 and 30 regular public transport operators to Part 42. While a number of organisations have already moved to the new regulations or have begun the process, many have not yet commenced work. CASA is providing a high level of guidance to organisations that need to transition, with step-by-step information available on the CASA web site. This includes the forms that must be completed and samples of the expositions that organisations need to develop, as well as a wealth of education and training about the new maintenance regulations. Additional resources to help organisations make the transition smoothly are being developed and will be released on CASA's web site soon. Training courses are also being planned. Organisations that are starting work on the transition to the new regulations should notify CASA as soon as possible.

Find out about transition to the maintenance regulations and start now.

Keeping WA airspace safe and moving

The aviation industry is being asked to comment on a special report on the impact of increased aviation activity in Western Australia. The report has made 11 recommendations aimed at enhancing the safety and efficiency of Western Australian air traffic. A government task force has delivered the report, which focuses on the north-west region of Western Australia. It found the unprecedented growth of the mining sector has caused rapid and unexpected demand on the aviation industry, with continuing pressure on the air traffic management system. Perth, as well as regional aerodromes such as Karratha, Broome, Port Hedland, Geraldton, Kununurra and Paraburdoo, have all seen sustained increases in aircraft movements over the past five years.

Issues identified in the report include a lack of radar coverage outside 250 nautical miles from Perth, not all aircraft being fitted with automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast (ADS-B) equipment, insufficient data on aircraft movements, limited movement space at aerodromes and an inability by some air operators to adhere to slot times. The task force recommends an assessment of the viability of ADS-B only routes and sectors in Western Australia, encouragement for operators to fit ADS-B ahead of the mandated deadlines, giving priority to ADS-B equipped aircraft, development of plans to provide ADS-B coverage below 10,000 feet and investigating action against operators who do not adhere to slot times. CASA and Airservices Australia should also continue to monitor movement and passenger data.

Read the Western Australian air traffic report.

Send feedback to: [email protected].

Get all the info on ADS-B now

All pilots should know that satellite-based navigation and aircraft surveillance systems are to become mandatory for a wide range of aircraft operations over the next five years. From the end of 2013 automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast (ADS-B) equipment will be required for all aircraft operations at or above 29,000 feet. Current proposals are to progressively require all new and existing aircraft flying by instrument flight rules to be fitted with global navigation satellite systems equipment, including ADS-B, by early 2017. Already there are 29 ADS-B ground stations across Australia, as well as wide area multilateration systems at Sydney and Tasmania. There is extensive ADS-B coverage above 29,000 feet and reasonable coverage at 10,000 feet. Many remote locations such as Broome, Esperance, Longreach, Bundaberg and Bourke have ADS-B to ground level. More ADS-B ground stations are to be deployed in the future.

To help all pilots understand the ADS-B system and use the equipment properly CASA has published an updated 24 page booklet. This booklet sets out the fundamentals of ADS-B, explains aircraft equipment, tells how to use the systems, covers radio phraseology and looks at human factors issues. The booklet is easy to understand and includes the timetable for the introduction of the mandatory use of ADS-B. All pilots will find the ADS-B booklet useful and it will be an excellent quick reference tool. The booklet can be ordered through CASA's online store, with the cost being a $15 handling and delivery fee.

Order your copy of the ADS-B booklet now.

Helicopter instructor training in the spotlight

The helicopter flying training sector is to get new and improved support from CASA. A project has been set up to develop a publication to provide detailed guidance on the training of helicopter flight instructors. One key aim of the project will be to assist the training sector to work towards the standardisation of helicopter flight instructor training. This is an important step in continuing to improve safety. CASA will develop a Civil Aviation Advisory Publication on helicopter flight instructor training, which will parallel an existing publication covering aeroplane flight instructor training. This work is part of a broad initiative by CASA to enhance the quality of the training provided to all flight instructors. The new publication will set out detailed information on how to develop and deliver training courses to helicopter flight instructors. It will provide advice on the conduct of flight tests and information on professional development for approved testing officers. There will also be a revision of the current helicopter and aeroplane flight instructor manual to better reflect CASA's expectations and up-to-date industry best practice.

Find out more about the helicopter flight instructor training project.

Warning about ballistic aircraft recovery systems

A warning has been issued about the dangers caused by the unintended activation of emergency recovery parachutes fitted to aircraft. Recovery parachutes are set off by a high-energy rocket, which can kill or seriously injure people when they are activated on the ground. In an airworthiness bulletin, CASA says aircraft owners and operators, maintenance personnel and fire and emergency services staff need to be aware of the hazards associated with the devices. When activated a rocket exits the aircraft recovery unit at speeds up to 240 kilometres an hour. The ballistic systems are operated by a mechanical linkage from an activation handle located in the aircraft cockpit, with the rocket deploying a parachute designed to control the descent of the aircraft to the ground in an emergency.

The recovery systems have been fitted to several Cirrus models of aircraft as standard equipment for some years and can be retrofitted to existing aircraft. They can also be fitted to paragliders and experimental aircraft. A supplementary type certificate is available for fitting of ballistic recovery systems to Cessna 172 and 182 aircraft. Only B1 licensed aircraft maintenance engineers who have successfully completed a training course on the systems can undertake any inspections, removal, repair or other maintenance of the equipment. Owners and operators of aircraft are warned to make sure they tell their maintenance organisation that a ballistic recovery system is fitted to their aircraft when all other maintenance is being performed.

Read the ballistic recovery systems airworthiness bulletin.

It's a feast of safety seminars for pilots in May!

May 2102 is a busy month for AvSafety seminars for pilots. Seminars are being held in every state and the Northern Territory. In total there will be 22 AvSafety seminars in May, both in regional centres and capital cities. Seminars in the capitals are scheduled at Bankstown, Hobart, Darwin and Essendon. CASA's safety advisors will conduct the Bankstown AvSafety seminar on 22 May, Hobart on 3 May, Darwin 15 May and Essendon on 23 May. The central topics for all the seminars will be human factors in aviation and aviation resources on the web. The presentation and discussion about aviation resources on the internet gives pilots a practical run down of the 'official' sources of information they need. This includes looking at web sites for CASA, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, Airservices Australia and the Bureau of Meteorology. All AvSafety seminars give pilots the chance to discuss local and national safety and regulatory issues with CASA.

Find the AvSafety seminar happening in May in your area.

Watch on Port Macquarie to Ballina airspace

A study of the class E airspace between Port Macquarie and Ballina in NSW has found congestion issues require ongoing monitoring. The study, conducted by CASA's Office of Airspace Regulation, was told there can be both airspace and radio frequency congestion in the area. However, at this point a change to the current airspace classification is not recommended, but rather continuing monitoring by CASA which can be escalated as appropriate. The study found lowering class E airspace in the Port Macquarie and Ballina regions would be unlikely to alleviate the congestion. Currently, there is class G airspace below class E in the area. A wide range of aircraft operations use the airspace including passenger transport, charter, recreational and sport, private and agriculture. Radar surveillance is available throughout the airspace, although coverage diminishes at lower altitudes. Stakeholders who were consulted by the study identified a number of issues in addition to congestion. These were the need for mandatory carriage and use of transponders without dispensations, the impact on operations of restricted and danger areas, the unscheduled loss of the Williamtown radar data feed and disjointed airspace when Coffs Harbour class D airspace is deactivated. The recommendations of the study address a number of these issues.

Read the Port Macquarie and Ballina airspace study.

Book now for the design and manufacturing seminar

Time is running out to book your place at this year's design and manufacturing seminar. This is a must for anyone involved in aviation design and manufacturing. The seminar will focus on a range of issues important to engineers and other people involved in aviation design and manufacturing. This year's seminar is being held in Brisbane and will cover five key topics - CASA's airworthiness engineering organisation, the proposed new rules covering approved design organisations, flight test safety, ageing aircraft and conformity verification. The event is a great chance to learn about what is new in design and manufacturing while catching up with other people in the sector. Past seminars have attracted more than 100 people and provided great opportunities for making business contacts. It is also an opportunity to ask questions of CASA and to provide feedback on regulations and safety oversight. The seminar is being held on Tuesday 22 and Wednesday 23 May 2012 at the Central Eagle Street conference centre in Brisbane. CASA is not charging for the seminar and lunch and refreshments will be provided.

Book your place before Tuesday 18 May 2012 by contacting Lisa Lanza at: [email protected].

It's time to comply

The title of one of CASA's key regulatory tools changed on 16 April 2012. From that date Requests for Corrective Action became known as Non-Compliance Notices. This new name more accurately reflects the purpose of the notice - to inform an individual or organisation they may be in breach of the safety regulations. The notice requires a response which sets out the root causes of the regulatory deficiency, corrective action to addresses these causes and remedial action to fix the immediate effects of the deficiency. These notices can be issued to air operators, aerodrome operators, maintenance organisations or other holders of permissions from CASA. The new name makes it very clear that anyone being issued a Non-Compliance Notice must treat it as a high priority. This compares to the old title of the Request for Corrective Action, which could be interpreted to indicate there was a choice about whether or not compliance was required. Matters raised by CASA in Non-Compliance Notices are critical safety matters and they are important to regulatory compliance. The substance of the notices remains the same and it does not affect the way in which CASA's surveillance activities and audits are conducted.

Find out more about non-compliance notices.

I would be going for one of these:

http://www.millennium-aircraft.com/

Hi All

As we progress further with some initiatives, I find we are in need of a "Clubs and Schools Liaison Representative". Having workshops available for Clubs and Schools to hold, having an Aviation Awareness Program in secondary schools where we can direct people to a Club and/or School, and other initiatives that are coming up, we need someone who can act as a representative of Recreational Flying to all the Clubs and Schools out there.

The site itself can offer Clubs and Schools a tremendous amount of free facilities as it stands now like their own Group, Booking Calendar, Forum, Credit Card facilities, Website Pages, Hosting, Pilot Supplies Shop and more along with Workshops in conjunction with Recreational Flying, the steering of new members/students etc to their facilities, even being a Recreational Flying Chapter.

So we need someone who can help out as a Liaison person with them, letting them know what we can do for them and most importantly what they may need so we can look at seeing what Recreational Flying can do to help them more.

You will be a member of the Recreational Flying Staff. I have organised a Phone Conferencing facility for the site so every 2 weeks or so, the Staff will phone in to the conference call and have a meeting to help each other.

One of the extras that we will be looking at in our first Phone Conference, to be held in a week or so, is a permanent Recreational Flying Video Conferencing Facility, provided by a separate specialised company, that will be available for up to 15 people at a time. This will cost the site $550 a year but will be available to Recreational Flying Chapters by simply booking a time for their Clubs/School to hold club meetings, Classroom Training Sessions and more...and all for free.

BUT, we desperately, and must have, a person who would like to help as the Recreational Flying Clubs/Schools Liaison Person so PLEASE, if you can help and would like to be a part of Recreational Flying in Australia, then please contact me urgently...send me a Private Message/Conversation or phone me now on 03 9444-8025...Thanks so much if you can

I would like to take this opportunity to welcome 2 new staff members to Recreational Flying:

Carol Richards

Steve Bell

Recreational Flying has always been a non-commercial resource, a community and a means for aviators to help each other in ALL their flying endeavours...Enhanced Flying Skills, Improved Aircraft Maintenance and Increased Flying Safety, the 3 most important objectives of this site over the last 8 years as a ONE SINGLE REPOSITORY of all helpful aviation information for you on the internet...you help to achieve this by posting what you can right here at Recreational Flying

So we have started some initiatives that I hope will extend the site into helping you further.

I started aviation late in life and when I hear stories of "when my father use to take me to the airfield" or "I use to hang out at the aero club when I was young", I now realise what I missed when I was young. So I have asked Carol to explore further "The Recreational Flying Aviation Awareness Program" in Secondary Schools, targeting years 7, 8 and 9. It is proven that when young people get into aviation at an early age, they either make a career out of it or, after they meet girls/boys, have a family, they come back to flying at a much younger age. It is hoped that we at Recreational Flying can help in fostering an interest in aviation, beginning with flying recreationally, with young secondary school students and then who knows what their future will hold. Carol is working on the feasibility of what we can do as a program and even hopefully get some funding for this initiative.

What are your thoughts...please add them in the following thread for Carol to read:

http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/the-recreational-flying-aviation-awareness-program.37795/

Correct Maintenance of our aircraft as we know could save our life but there is also the correct "methods" used when maintaining our aircraft and knowledge in this area will never go astray. Steve Bell use to hold workshops for recreational aviators in these areas and is now planning a group of workshops that will be held around Australia for you in these areas, like he use to hold to packed out audiences. The Recreational Flying Workshop Program is another initiative that we hope you will avail yourself of for your benefit in increased knowledge about maintaining your aircraft helping you to fly safer.

What are your thoughts...what types of workshops would you be interested in...please add them in the following thread for Steve to read:

http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/the-recreational-flying-workshop-program.37796/

We also have some other initiatives happening that are in the early planning stages as well and we will let you know about them when we can however, if you have any ideas on what more Recreational Flying can do for you, what initiatives you would like to see explored and then perhaps provided by Recreational Flying etc, then please let me know.

Hope you find these ideas of great help and again, I would like to thank Carol and Steve for coming on-board here at Recreational Flying where we have a passion unlike anywhere else of doing what we can for YOU and ALL recreational aviators

Correct Maintenance of our aircraft as we know could save our life but there is also the correct "methods" used when maintaining our aircraft and knowledge in this area will never go astray. Steve Bell use to hold workshops for recreational aviators in these areas and is now planning a group of workshops that will be held around Australia for you in these areas, like he use to hold to packed out audiences. The Recreational Flying Workshop Program is another initiative that we hope you will avail yourself of for your benefit in increased knowledge about maintaining your aircraft helping you to fly safer.

What are your thoughts...what types of workshops would you be interested in...please add them here for Steve to read:

I started aviation late in life and when I hear stories of "when my father use to take me to the airfield" or "I use to hang out at the aero club when I was young", I now realise what I missed when I was young. So I have asked Carol Richards to explore further "The Recreational Flying Aviation Awareness Program" in Secondary Schools, targeting years 7, 8 and 9. It is proven that when young people get into aviation at an early age, they either make a career out of it or, after they meet girls/boys, have a family, they come back to flying at a much younger age. It is hoped that we at Recreational Flying can help in fostering an interest in aviation, beginning with flying recreationally, with young secondary school students and then who knows what their future will hold. Carol is working on the feasibility of what we can do as a program and even hopefully get some funding for this initiative.

What are your thoughts...please add them here for Carol to read

Don't be a tight-**** with your offers though guys.The Administrator of this wonderful site also has a family to feed.

If you treat him him right, i'm sure he'll also throw in a free vomit bag with handles (like we get our shopping in, from Coles and Woolies).

 

Just don't be mean, and do the right thing:crazy:

Shane and Phil were acouple of drinking buddieswho worked as aircraftengineers in Melbourne, Australia.One day the airport was fogged in and they were stuck in thehangar with nothing to do.

Phil said, 'Man, I wish we had something to drink!'

Shane says, 'Me too. Y'know, I've heard you can drink jet fuel andgetabuzz.

You wanna try it?'

So they pour themselves a couple of glasses of high octane boozeand get completely smashed.

The next morning Phil wakes up and is surprised at how good hefeels.

In fact he feels GREAT! NO hangover! NO bad side effects.

Nothing!

Then the phone rings. It's Shane. Shane says, 'Hey, how do you feelthis morning?'

Phil says, 'I feel great, how about you?'

Shane says, 'I feel great, too. You don't have a hangover?'

Phil says, 'No that jet fuel is great stuff -- no hangover, nothing.We ought to do this more often..'

' Yeah, well there's just one thing.'

'What's that?'

'Have you farted yet?'

'No.'

'Well, DON’T - 'cause I'm in New Zealand '

I have removed the items that are now sold out from the above list...there is only a few days left and remember "No Reasonable Offer Refused"

Note, the next batch of Recreational Flying Headsets have been ordered and there will be a slight price increase on them when they arrive so get in now as there is only a few left at the old price

Any time

Hi Ian,did that, the Splash screen showed, but did not go into the desktop. Is there an exe I can find. I'm not sure the files exist anymore, if I can find the folder location I could try to launch manually. Sorry CE is not my normal OS but I was pretty good with XP and Server 2003.