Parafield - Two killed in twin training aircraft 29/04/26

[Student Pilot]

Doesn't look good 🙁

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 30 by red750
Change topic title and add date.

[FlyingVizsla]

The ABC - not much detail, but will be updated.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-29/plane-crashes-at-parafield-airport-north-of-adelaide/106621632

 

[shafs64]

Looks like a DA60

[BurnieM]

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/569718

 

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=7c7bcf&lat=-34.794&lon=138.633&zoom=16.1&showTrace=2026-04-29&leg=3&trackLabels&labelsGeom

 

Saying its a DA42

 

On takeoff from 03L

 

Edited April 29 by BurnieM

[facthunter]

Assymetric training it  looks like, gone wrong.  Sad for everyone involved and those who Know them. Nev

[shafs64]

3 hours ago, BurnieM said:

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/569718

 

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=7c7bcf&lat=-34.794&lon=138.633&zoom=16.1&showTrace=2026-04-29&leg=3&trackLabels&labelsGeom

 

Saying its a DA42

 

On takeoff from 03L

 

Yeah, they look similar from a distance.

[Thruster88]

There is a very long list of asymetric training going wrong in all types of multi engine aircraft. 

 

1991 RAAF Boeing 707 crash - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

Rossair plane crash that killed three pilots near Renmark blamed on high-risk manoeuvre - ABC News

WWW.ABC.NET.AU

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Three experienced pilots including a safety expert killed in a plane crash in SA in 2017 were conducting a high-risk engine failure simulation at a much lower altitude than recommended, an investigation finds.

 

[facthunter]

There's other deaths and injuries on the ground, unfortunately.  Nev 

[onetrack]

Also - the crash of VH-ANB, a, EMB-120ER Brasilia, at Darwin in 2010. The PIC pulled the left engine power lever to flight idle, rather than zero thrust, which effectively turned a simulated engine failure into a combined engine and propellor feathering failure.

It seems incredible that two highly qualified Captains would indulge in such a dangerous simulation at such low altitude, in an aircraft that is noted to be difficult to control after a left engine failure alone - let alone a combined engine and propellor feathering failure.

 

https://www.atsb.gov.au/sites/default/files/media/3546615/ao-2010-019.pdf

[facthunter]

Turbo Props can have a lot of drag due to high amount (ratio) of  the Gearing . With a flame out the drag can be multiples of the Max thrust. That's why they have Auto-Feather  Min control speed V(mca) is not a lot  different on either side. but with both engines turning in the same direction,  One side will be Better than the Other. IF you are Below the Min speed the  full rudder application will be insufficient to stop Yaw and roll to the dead engine side,. Nev

[Student Pilot]

I read the residents are now complaining how dangerous training is around Parafield. Doesn't seem that long ago it was out on it's own with not much around.

Edited May 1 by Student Pilot
Brainfart

[Jabiru7252]

I started flying out of Parafield in 1980 and have lived under the final leg of 21R for 35 years. There has always been idiots and whingers who complain about the noise etc. Around 1992 a guy knocked on my door and wanted me to sign a petition to get rid of Parafield airport. I told him I was a pilot and few out of Parafield regularly, the idiot abused me a buggered off. I believe Aldinga aerodrome has similar problems. People move to the country and then complain about cows mooing!!!

[Steve L]

We have one here at Gawler Ken, a guy approached me at home (I live alongside the airfield) with a petition which he was sure I would eagerly sign, boy was he wrong. The Gawler Airfield has been here longer than than he’s been living and it’s still here.

[T510]

Used to get the same when I lived near Moorabbin.

 

I'd get some funny looks when I asked if they had noticed the airport was there before they moved in to the area

[facthunter]

You will Get Airfields closed to Build Business and housing but Never the reverse.. People want the benefits with none of the discomfort. Sell off the Airport and develop it. Land values go UP and they  SELL and Move anyhow. Passengers want Airports to Operate 24/7 and with International flights, that's a Necessity. Airports are High investment Land and it's got to make A return and provide a service. That's how a Modern society Functions. Nev

[Student Pilot]

Airports were given to councils along with a large donation to keep them running as airfields and a community asset. Councils have now turned them into commercial real estate for personal gain. Privatise and perish.....

[facthunter]

Councils are a good example of A failure of democracy. The structure eventually serves the people running it whose salaries are Linked to rate INCOME. Shire Officers.   You need a Permit for everything and each time it Costs Money. Funny that, and the most common word there is NO. Their ability to slow things down or stop them, is Unmatched. It's a sheltered Workshop.  Nev

[danny_galaga]

On 30/04/2026 at 2:54 PM, onetrack said:

Also - the crash of VH-ANB, a, EMB-120ER Brasilia, at Darwin in 2010. The PIC pulled the left engine power lever to flight idle, rather than zero thrust, which effectively turned a simulated engine failure into a combined engine and propellor feathering failure.

It seems incredible that two highly qualified Captains would indulge in such a dangerous simulation at such low altitude, in an aircraft that is noted to be difficult to control after a left engine failure alone - let alone a combined engine and propellor feathering failure.

 

https://www.atsb.gov.au/sites/default/files/media/3546615/ao-2010-019.pdf

The pilot doing the check flight was one of my instructors, Shane Whitbread. I only learnt about it years later as I had moved from Darwin five years previously. I read that after that accident, that procedure became a simulator test only. From what you guys are saying, it should never have been a test procedure in the first place.

[planedriver]

On 04/05/2026 at 4:07 PM, Student Pilot said:

Airports were given to councils along with a large donation to keep them running as airfields and a community asset. Councils have now turned them into commercial real estate for personal gain. Privatise and perish.....

Take a look at Bankstown Airport. Largely become a commercial hub growing fast by the day as untold amounts of money are poured into the site for development.

It's run by  Aeria Management Group AMG who also control Camden Airport.

 

AMG is owned by Aware Super, one of Australia's largest profit-for-members superannuation funds.

 

The massive development taking place there has to be seen to be believed. Some of the buildings are that long you could almost put a runway on the roof for light sport aircraft, as off-runway space deminishes.

 

All very good for some, until there is a major mishap such as happened at Essendon. EFOT and limited space available.

 

 

[onetrack]

A sizeable number of super funds have mind-boggling amounts of money to invest.

Aware has just merged with Telstra Super, and that merger has turned them into Australia's largest Super fund.

 

The problem i, these funds are constantly chasing increased % returns (which the members love, of course), so it's a two-edged sword, and the Super funds are strictly dollar-driven, with little consideration for social factors.

 

The simple fact is, that as airfields in towns and cities become increasingly more valuable due to ballistic land pricing, there is no way that these central airfields will ever remain economic for the low-cost aviators.

 

So, the only solution is to move out of the cities and towns to rural areas, where low-cost aviation is still feasible. 

[facthunter]

Some times it all gets too Hard. Have your own strip and IF others use it, you have Liability issues.  In the country you may find out everybody is related when you want anything done and you will always be a Blow in. .  Nev

[jackc]

13 hours ago, facthunter said:

Some times it all gets too Hard. Have your own strip and IF others use it, you have Liability issues.  In the country you may find out everybody is related when you want anything done and you will always be a Blow in. .  Nev

Two words sum up the modern World?  HUMAN GREED 

[facthunter]

I call it Empire Building. Make everything as complex as possible, with a small minded outlook. Nev

[danny_galaga]

6 hours ago, jackc said:

Two words sum up the modern World?  HUMAN GREED 

That sums up the whole of human history 

[facthunter]

Tribes have rules if they want to exist in a way that has Order and form. Trump obeys NO rules, THAT is CHAOS and Instability. Just what you don't NEED.  Nev