CHANGES TO RAAUS MEMBERSHIP TERMS & CONDITIONS

[Moneybox]

Duty of care can be stretched way out of proportion and if the legal system used a little common sense in judgement we’d all be much better off.

 

Let me give you an example. Earlier this year some irresponsible people broke into our shed. They first attempted to break the heavy duty padlock on the entry door but failed after doing considerable damage. After failing there they cut two holes in the corrugated iron side walls using what appeared to be tinsnips. Not only kids by the look of the strength that would have been needed.

 

After gaining entry they proceeded to smash expensive glass display cabinets. Then they broke the ignition lock out of my Honda quad and attempted to hotwire it failing because the battery was flat so then they smashed the instrument panel. They stole a stamp collection, a coin collection, an antique clock and more heritage items. They smashed a locked steel tool box until they gained entry to some old china. We still don’t know the extent of what was taken.

 

When the police arrived they tried to contact me but got Sandra in the end. They said they had a fair idea who the perpetrators were but there was nothing they could do without proof. Their only interest was in seeing that she had the holes in the wall repaired asap in case they returned. 
 

Their reason was so that they wouldn’t injure themselves going through the hole. Apparently my duty of care to the thieves was to give them a safe working environment. Sandra called the shire workshop and had it repaired within a couple of hours. If I’d have been home I’d of taken a file to the edge of the iron and sharpened it. That’s my level of duty of care.

[BrendAn]

signing a few new ts and cs does not bother me at all.

won't affect me flying around on the weekends.

[coljones]

2 hours ago, Moneybox said:

Duty of care can be stretched way out of proportion and if the legal system used a little common sense in judgement we’d all be much better off.

 

Let me give you an example. Earlier this year some irresponsible people broke into our shed. They first attempted to break the heavy duty padlock on the entry door but failed after doing considerable damage. After failing there they cut two holes in the corrugated iron side walls using what appeared to be tinsnips. Not only kids by the look of the strength that would have been needed.

 

After gaining entry they proceeded to smash expensive glass display cabinets. Then they broke the ignition lock out of my Honda quad and attempted to hotwire it failing because the battery was flat so then they smashed the instrument panel. They stole a stamp collection, a coin collection, an antique clock and more heritage items. They smashed a locked steel tool box until they gained entry to some old china. We still don’t know the extent of what was taken.

 

When the police arrived they tried to contact me but got Sandra in the end. They said they had a fair idea who the perpetrators were but there was nothing they could do without proof. Their only interest was in seeing that she had the holes in the wall repaired asap in case they returned. 
 

Their reason was so that they wouldn’t injure themselves going through the hole. Apparently my duty of care to the thieves was to give them a safe working environment. Sandra called the shire workshop and had it repaired within a couple of hours. If I’d have been home I’d of taken a file to the edge of the iron and sharpened it. That’s my level of duty of care.

But the next person through your guillotine might be a cop or some other innocent trying to help you out.  I do, in fact, feel for your loss.

Edited 19 hours ago by coljones
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[facthunter]

Bloody rotten thing to Have Happen. You Lose your faith in Human Beings. Nev

[skippydiesel]

It is we, the Australian proletariat, who have accepted this adversarial system, without much more than a whinge now & again.

 

In most instances, assistance/compensation for an injury, the injured party must demonstrate, in a court of law, that someone is guilty of failing to ensure their safety. There is virtually nil no fault compensation awards made in Australia.

 

This system rewards/serves the ambulance chasing legal profession & insurance companies - not us.

 

Its a legal rort that should have been changed decades ago but we don't make sufficient fuss to attract the attention of the law makers/politicians, so nothing changes.

 

Sure the USA may excel at this sort of justice for $$$ but its our system thats being manipulated to enrich the insurance companies & legal vulture's.😈

[jackc]

Well, now we have everyone thinking? We just wait and see the final Terms and Conditions that RAAus publish, for us to abide by. 
Like everything these days, the membership have not been consulted for ideas to contribute.  Never give people a chance for input, as the organisation may get to hear, what they don’t like. 
Insurance policies these days are full of escape clauses etc.  With the new  T’s and C’s don’t expect protection from anything as a member, because it will be only to protect RAAus and its hierarchy, which is logical in this day and age. 
It will be interesting to see what’s in it for members, OR what’s out of it? 
Just think, IF RAAus was still Incorporated, the new T’s and C’s may not have had any potential, to be a problem? 

[facthunter]

IF they go broke they cannot function.   Nev

[jackc]

20 minutes ago, facthunter said:

IF they go broke they cannot function.   Nev

It would take a serious legal action to be lost, for that to happen, and what I see on the table from Mt Beauty, I don’t see it causing big problem, but then what would I know? 

Not sure IF the Bristell incident will cause something, but that maybe water under the bridge?