CHANGES TO RAAUS MEMBERSHIP TERMS & CONDITIONS

[skippydiesel]

3 hours ago, BurnieM said:

Que ? 

Nice touch!

3 hours ago, BurnieM said:

 

Turboplanner is not the federal or state government and neither does he have any significant influence over them.

Not the only one , has a habit of lobbing tangential "grenades" that have little or nothing to do with the proceeding statement, then retreating behind some sort of holier /more knowing than though comments.

3 hours ago, BurnieM said:

 

He is not saying it is fair or just simply that this is how it is based on actual involvement in duty of care legal cases.

He is a good source of actual information.

Que?

3 hours ago, BurnieM said:

 

We get that you do not agree with the current situation. What do you propose to do to change it ?

 

Raise awareness of this sort of established inequity as often as I can. A small pebble, rolling down a hill, can start an avalanche. 

 

Nice of you to "go into bat" for him.😈

Edited Monday at 05:55 AM by skippydiesel

[Moneybox]

[jackc]

5 hours ago, Moneybox said:

Set up a ring, as long as we're all invited at a reasonable entry fee.....

Don’t forget the Popcorn Stall 🤩

[BurnieM]

Collecting accurate information about the current legal situation is a good idea if you want to change things.

If he is wrong state why he is wrong but saying I do not like what you are saying achieves nothing.

 

Do you get that you are attacking the messenger ?

 

[Arron25]

7 hours ago, turboplanner said:

Forget it.

Has 'Fly Tornado' changed his name and moved to The Oaks

[johnm]

14 hours ago, facthunter said:

 I didn't complete the L2 as I was told I could NOT refuse work on anyone's Plane. I found that unacceptable as I knew they were hopeless and did a lot of their work Undocumented and you had no control of it so I won't put MY name to it. Nor would I fly the Planes they owned. You have to be able to Pick and choose who you work for When it an aircraft. Keep away from people who will drag you down with them. Nev

Interesting FH - is that still the rule - an L2 can't refuse to work on a plane ? (irrespective of conditon or history)

[jackc]

No one could force me to work on anything, unless I was a Gaol Inmate 🤩

[skippydiesel]

13 hours ago, BurnieM said:

Collecting accurate information about the current legal situation is a good idea if you want to change things.

If he is wrong state why he is wrong but saying I do not like what you are saying achieves nothing.

 

Do you get that you are attacking the messenger ?

 

IF? this directed at me, it may be appropriate to say so.

 

If "he" is Turbs?  - Its not that he is wrong, its more that he is unswearing unasked questions & making unlikly associations, to wit;

 

Tubs referenced to motor vehicle third party insurance (Green Slip in NSW) is that as an RAA aircraft owner/member, third party insurance cover is part of my annual fees. That RAA arrange this service, does not suggest that RAA has any more duty of care, than the insurance broker/companies providing the cover.

 

RAA may have an oversight function regarding instructor standards. If found to have failed in this duty, bear some responsibility for an instructors errors of process/decision making. This may be viewed as a breach of duty of care - court will decide.

Further it is possible that an RAA office holder may also be found in breach, if their duties were in whole/part to conduct such oversight, in which they have may have failed.

That RAA personnel seem to have (deliberatly?) mislead, the accident investigation, referred to in this Thread, will certainly lead to significant organisation change and may be harsher penalties IF found in breach, not if there is no such finding.

Court imposed penalties, if any, will depend on a whole range of factors, including consideraton of funding/staffing levels/ training/ management/culture/etc.

Organisational actions (impact on RAA), can only be speculated on - fodder for this Forum

 

Note: I have no problem with "thread drift", the evolving of a topic into other, often very interesting/instructive areas. This does not mean that I accept what seems to be a response to a statement made by me, that has no obvious relevance to that statement ie "a tangential bomb".

 

Show me where I have "attacked the messenger"?😈

[facthunter]

How Many Demerit Points is that?  Hey! I think I wanna Be a Messenger