Rotax 912 oil filter. Reputable suppliers?

[BrendAn]

3 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Are you willfully missing the point?

 

(All comments below are for non certified aircraft/engines)

 

Aside from a claimed difference in bypass pressure rating (spring & diaphragm) the oil filetrs are essentially the same. May have been produced in the same factory AND have the same production costs.

An aircraft engine failure, has the potentially for much more serious outcome, than a similar ground vehicle engine failure. This factor alone, warrants greater care & standards in construction, maintenance & servicing.

The above suggests higher standards, that cost more - FAIR ENOUGH! (too a point) Not up  X 8

BUT 

I have never seen an automotive oil filter (purchased from a respected supplier like RYCO) fail, when being used as per engine & filter manufactures recommendations.

Rotax 9 engines use automotive technology throughout (ie nothing unusual /special)

Have, in the past, specified automotive products be used in their engine servicing. I am unaware of any engine failures as a result.

Rotax has decided to go down the road of "branding" its service products and at the same time increased the cost of these by many times the manufacturing cost.

Vehicle manufactures also brand service items BUT are in competition for sales with a whole host of aftermarket suppliers. Branded (OM) vehicle service parts are often competitive with after market quality products.

In common with other small market/slow turn over industries, Rotax prices are of necessity higher - fair enough but not x 8  

Rotax has taken steps to not be in competition with after market suppliers, by promoting their aircraft parts/materials quality propaganda narrative - Owners like you have been sucked in. That your prerogative.

RoTAX  is real - its designed to increase profit. Nothing to do with engine service life/reliability - just profit.

There is a great deal of myth about the superiority of aircraft servicing/materials. 

IF you own & maintain a homebuilt aircraft, you have the flexibility to maintain the aircraft in the most cost effective way (not suggesting scrimping on standards/safety).

 

I get satisfaction from being cost conscious, you apparently do not.

I take the time to compare standards & find the most cost competitive product.

Apparently you are happy to pay Rotax & not bother with such time wasting efforts - your prorgative.

Clearly we see the World through diffrent lenses and likly from diffrent cash reserves.

 

😈

 

i am as tightarse as anyone but i believe an aircraft engine is not something to skimp on.

the oil filter with the rotax label is made to their requirements even if it is by another company.

just because another brand looks the same does not mean it is.

 

 

[skippydiesel]

Friend BrendAn,

 

If/When, I find an automotive oil filter, being supplied by a reputable maker, that meets/exceeds all Rotax specifications, at a significantly lower price, I will very happily purchase that oil filter.

 

In the mean time, I will stick with the Rotax 825-016 BUT look for the best price (seems to be $36.50 from https://pmaviation.com.au/rotax/) which is a lot better than $78 from Aircraft Spruce (Flood yet to respond to my enquiry)😈

 

Edited 15 hours ago by skippydiesel

[facthunter]

It's a 20 Micron Filter and they always cost more. Just find the best Price and stick with it. It's NOT a Car type engine in a lot of ways. By-passing should only be possible if the Environment is cold and the Oil is not warmed up as required OR the filter is blocked.   Serviced at Normal Intervals should Preclude this happening. Cut used filter open  at each service. Nev

[BurnieM]

6 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

BurnieM

"Except I cannot find anybody in Australia selling them for $36."

 

https://pmaviation.com.au/rotax/

 

Your welcome.

😈

Sent him an email.

He has plenty of stock at the old price of $36.80.

Express post for 3 filters is $20 and $28 for 4 or more.

He is out of the office till Friday.

 

[BrendAn]

12 minutes ago, facthunter said:

It's a 20 Micron Filter and they always cost more. Just find the best Price and stick with it. It's NOT a Car type engine in a lot of ways. By-passing should only be possible if the Environment is cold and the Oil is not warmed up as required OR the filter is blocked.   Serviced at Normal Intervals should Preclude this happening. Cut used filter open  at each service. Nev

How many hours does the average rec pilot do a year, not many.

Buy genuine and be done with it 

Skippy carries on like he has to buy one every week.

 

Edited 14 hours ago by BrendAn

[facthunter]

Saving cost is his "Thing'. Just fly while you can and get on with it. I doubt you'll find an equivalent filter,  and you'd risk your warrantee, and safety.  A Hair is 70 Microns. This filter is 20 and better in other ways.  Why would larger/other filter Makers go to the trouble for such a small Market? Nev

[Blueadventures]

1 hour ago, BurnieM said:

Sent him an email.

He has plenty of stock at the old price of $36.80.

Express post for 3 filters is $20 and $28 for 4 or more.

He is out of the office till Friday.

 

I hear he works only a few days a week now;  it is great he is still working, best to support him and work around his opening days.

[Blueadventures]

7 minutes ago, Blueadventures said:

I hear he works only a few days a week now;  it is great he is still working, best to support him and work around his opening days.

Also no sport plus oil for about another 30 days as seems shell missed placing an order, a mate bought his last 3 bottles.