facthunter Posted March 18 Posted March 18 The widespread use of crimping is to avoid skills needed to use solder and the do the Job Quicker and cheaper. Normal crimping is not that good. I don't think I've ever purchased a wiring loom that was crimped... Nev 1 1
Moneybox Posted March 18 Posted March 18 17 hours ago, Blueadventures said: Aviation crip methods and tools (in spec) are reliable; no so auto motive single crips, the four point crimping like example molex are reliable though. Yes we used to use these crimpers on some GM work, awful expensive tool so I doubt many armature builders would have one. I don't have one since it went missing along with all my Facom handtools, my Tech-ll scan tool and a lot more. 1
facthunter Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Armatures are usually soldered but I've seen the wires welded to work more reliably at Higher temps. Nev 1
T510 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 5 hours ago, facthunter said: The widespread use of crimping is to avoid skills needed to use solder and the do the Job Quicker and cheaper. Normal crimping is not that good. I don't think I've ever purchased a wiring loom that was crimped... Nev You continue to spread misinformation based on your opinion. What is "normal crimping"? Are you trying to suggest aerospace manufacturers are not doing wire looms properly simply cause they don't want to solder? You do realise that there are robotic soldering machines that produce perfect solder joints every time. Yet the standards still require crimping. You obviously haven't bought a Garmin, Dynon, Raytheon, Thales, Textron or any other aerospace loom. If you are so certain that soldering is superior back it up with real evidence, not stories and hearsay. I'll happily retract my statements if you can show me real world standards that support your argument. 2 1
onetrack Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Printed circuit boards are all soldered! Should we now be requesting that all PCB manufacturers revert to crimped connections! 😄 3
facthunter Posted March 18 Posted March 18 You can do what YOU like but I still think soldering is good in our type of work. Do you think the FAA would condemn solder use.? They might have a fight on their Hands. How many have the High quality crimping tools and crimps? There is NO misinformation in what I've Said. I just don't agree that there's only ONE way to do it. (which is what you are suggesting.) Your advice Might cause People to use Low quality crimps. Have you thought of that? Nev 1 1
onetrack Posted March 18 Posted March 18 (edited) Manufacturing processes are refined to reduce cost and increase speed of production. Crimped connections do just that. Manufacturers abhor processes such as soldering, that would slow down production and increase costs. Then there's the long-term health effects of full-time soldering with solder containing lead. All radiator repairers now have very strict checks on their employees blood lead levels, when they have been carrying out soldering processes for extended periods. In fact, quite a number of radiator repairers now refuse to repair soldered radiators, and most passenger and light commercial radiators today have crimped plastic end tanks. And of course, there's also the additional problem that less and less people today want soldering jobs as a full time job. Edited March 18 by onetrack 1 1
Thruster88 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 27 posts about people's preferred method of making electrical connections in the TELL US ABOUT YOUR LAST FLIGHT THREAD. 1 5
facthunter Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Some things just evolve. Williedo will be onto you for SHOUTING. HE got into ME.. Lots of diversions happen in the The "Tell us about your Last flight" thread. Crimps?? Skippy started it. ( checked) and it's a SAFETY issue. Most of US don't know when our "Last flight" will be. Perhaps it should be "Most Recent" Nev
danny_galaga Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Well, my plane is now fully registered, so hopefully can tell you about my NEXT flight, with my first official passenger ☺️ 8 1
Moneybox Posted Sunday at 01:09 PM Posted Sunday at 01:09 PM Today was quite pleasant with a steady breeze all day. The forecast of 40°C seemed too high until I got into the plane to fly. The real temperature out at the airport was 41.8°C so it was no surprise that the little 80hp Rotax was a bit sluggish on the climb out. It didn't even want to leap off the tarmac as I expected it to. It struggled to climb so I only went to 2500' which is only circuit height when your airstrip is 1450' to start with but it made good viewing of the local gold mining areas. I couldn't identify many of the mines so I need to do a little more research to workout what I'm flying over. It was really just an exercise to try out my new seatbelts, rectifier and ANC earphones. Nobody was around to talk to me but the ANC certainly cuts out the engine noise easily as well as the Bose A20's. They are a tighter fit so that might be a problem on a long flight but time will tell. I bought them for the passenger anyway when I get ready to take somebody up. 4
pmccarthy Posted Sunday at 01:39 PM Posted Sunday at 01:39 PM My local flights take me from one gold mine to the next, as my passengers would confirm. 1
Moneybox Posted Sunday at 01:51 PM Posted Sunday at 01:51 PM 10 minutes ago, pmccarthy said: My local flights take me from one gold mine to the next, as my passengers would confirm. Does that require a new W&B calculation prior to each lift off. 😅 3 2
Moneybox Posted Monday at 09:28 AM Posted Monday at 09:28 AM 19 hours ago, pmccarthy said: My local flights take me from one gold mine to the next, as my passengers would confirm. If you find one of those passengers acting suspiciously and the weight just doesn't seem quite right you must demand to check their pockets. You could tell from the smirk on her face she was hiding something... 5 3 2
Blueadventures Posted Monday at 09:57 AM Posted Monday at 09:57 AM 28 minutes ago, Moneybox said: If you find one of those passengers acting suspiciously and the weight just doesn't seem quite right you must demand to check their pockets. You could tell from the smirk on her face she was hiding something... You'll be able to afford a Rotax rec/reg now, as a spare.🙃🤪 3 2
Moneybox Posted Monday at 10:10 AM Posted Monday at 10:10 AM 11 minutes ago, Blueadventures said: You'll be able to afford a Rotax rec/reg now, as a spare.🙃🤪 HaHa.... You think she'd pass it over? She just slipped me this one to keep my mouth shut. 5
danny_galaga Posted Monday at 10:28 AM Posted Monday at 10:28 AM 16 minutes ago, Moneybox said: HaHa.... You think she'd pass it over? She just slipped me this one to keep my mouth shut. Why does that picture remind me of the saying 'rolling poo in glitter'? 2 1
Moneybox Posted Monday at 10:33 AM Posted Monday at 10:33 AM That little rock paid for my new Honda Quad bike but I'd like to have it back at today's gold prices. 1 1
Moneybox Posted yesterday at 01:10 PM Posted yesterday at 01:10 PM I had a late decision to fly to perth this afternoon. At 1:00pm I had an appointment set for a 10am meeting with the mines department in Perth. At 2:00pm I flew out packed for a couple of days in the big smoke. The 259nm took exactly three hours, not fast but a lot better than the usual 8hr drive. The plug in temperature gauge was showing 44.8 degrees cabin temperature by the time I lifted off from Cue. The iPad lasted all of 10 minutes dying as I passed over the dry Lake Austin just south of town. The screen just showed a thermometer stating “your iPad must cool down before it can be used”. The climb to 4500’ took right on 10nm but from there it climbed quickly to 6500’. Again I flew my compass and landmarks but it was a little more difficult going in the opposite direction. I managed to fumble through the MLG controls and found YNTM so it was good to see that instrument come alive to guide me here. Tomorrow I drive into Perth where the Mines Department has allocated me a parking space. 😀 8 1
Moneybox Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago I could get quite a joyride if I try to go home over the weekend. Perhaps I need to sit in the plane anyway just to keep it from doing its own thing. I really do need a hangar. 2 1
skippydiesel Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Moneybox, "The iPad lasted all of 10 minutes dying as I passed over the dry Lake Austin just south of town. " Have you installed a ventilated iPad docking station ? Is your iPad fully charged before you take off ?- this will reduce the inflight charging temperature. Can you shield your iPad from direct sunlight? 😈 1
onetrack Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) Moneybox, you'd better invest in some decent tiedowns if you don't get home early, the forecast surface winds from that cyclone are going to be 90-100kmh, throughout the wheatbelt. See the Saturday forecast. https://reg.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/northam.shtml Edited 20 hours ago by onetrack 2 1
rgmwa Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago (edited) Yes, I thought I'd lost my plane tied down at Meekatharra overnight in a really bad storm one year. It survived apparently undamaged, but it clearly had moved around. Edited 18 hours ago by rgmwa 2 1
skippydiesel Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, rgmwa said: Yes, I thought I'd lost my plane tied down at Meekatharra overnight in a really bad storm one year. It survived apparently undamaged, but it clearly had moved around. Random Thoughts; If, aircraft not in hanger & expecting high wind - tie down securely at all 4 points, tail, wings & prop/nose wheel. In general stakes/anchors should be 45 degree's (or more) out from aircraft tie down point. Ties should all be firm - once they work loose the potential for further loss of security is greatly increased. Lock controls surfaces against movement. Elevator & ailerons can usually be secured using cabin/pilot safety harness around stick/yoke. Rudder may need a purpose built restraint. Wheel chocks are a good addition but must be secured to wheel so that any movement does not dislodge chock/render less efective. Very effective, light weight, chocks can be made from large aluminium angle. Each wheel front & rear, secured with shock cord/similar. 😈 3 1 1
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