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Sorry. I didn't mean to imply you flew dc3 😁. You often talk about the 727s. I guess fly by wire takes a lot potential mechanical failures out of the system.

WE had Plenty of delays and failures . My (Opinion?) is the Modern stuff is Better in general. I am still in touch with People flying in Airlines Now. I have flown "Fly by wire". Nev

Nev when you flew airliners how reliable were they compared to the modern computerised versions.

Red, What are you basing that on? Nev

It is a problem with the current version of the software in a Thales built box. The fix seems to be reverting to the previous version. If they have not updated to the current version then they do not have a problem.

The problem lies in the aircraft that are grounded in more remote areas where there are no qualified LAME's to do the upgrade. They have to be flown in.

The ABC News article is most certainly centred around just the effect on Jetstar, and it's not an aviation technical report, and it ignores all the other affected airlines. Jetstar are most affected because they own around 90 A320's - but only 34 of the Jetstar A320's are affected by the recall. Virgin only own 4 A320's affected by the recall, and were able to work around those aircraft being pulled from operations for the software revamp. Qantas are not affected, as none of their aircraft are covered by the recall.

What I don't understand is why Qantas and Virgin Australia weren't affected? Virgin perhaps because they only have 5 in fleet (according to their website which may be out of date), but Qantas has A319s, A320s and A321XLRs, but it's only Jetstar on the news.

This thread was about the airbus Directive In the first post . They were talking about all aircraft not Jetstar. They said there are around 6000 affected.

Don't forget! - they use piles of cardboard boxes for the stuntmen to land in, when they make those fabulous leaps, from the tops of big buildings!

The "News" was about Jetstar's A 320's in Australia. Nev

My experience was years ago.🙃

Don't ask, don't tell.

There used to be thrusters spraying crops until casa stopped them.

There are around 6000 AC affected around the world and yes we know it is a software issue.

The farm I used to fly from sprayed their sugar cane crop using an Xair. It looked great from above doing the runs and turns for next run (very graceful) as I would see that whenever my take offs and landings were at a time when Ross was spraying. Maybe add a spray kit and auto fly kit to an Xair and run a business? Cheers.

I believe it affects about HALF of Jetstar's Fleet of A 320's. A softtware Issue. I think the Number of AC involved is in the Mid 30's . Nev

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SE2 is a ADSB IN/OUT devise - so yes it "brings in others" but only ADSB transponders. This is a big step forward HOWEVER older Mode C (I think) systems will not appear on your EFB. The three deaths at The Oaks (12 months ago) - the Cessna 182 had the old transponder, the Jabiru an SE2/OzRunways. Not saying the incompatibility of the systems was the cause of the mid-air, just that if they had both been on the same system, there may have been a chance for evasive action. We have this crazy situaton with aircraft flying in congested airspace with the older (legal) transponders - can be "seen" by ATC but not by OZRunways/SE2 - go figure!!!!!!😈

So not a big job to fix it but a limited number of authorised maintenance staff who can do the job. This could end up taking months to get the whole fleet flying again.

Better to deal with the problem head on and suffer any consequences than do a Boeing & not tell anyone.

*it'd be pretty safe in THE crash*

Here's an ABC news article regarding the problem. Jetstar has had about 90 flights grounded. The repair involves a software update that takes about 2 hrs - but as always, a shortage of qualified LAMEs is a big part of the problem, that is causing delays. The software "update" actually involves reverting to the previous version of the aircrafts computer programming. It appears the latest software update installed was unable to cope with the solar flares. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-29/jetstar-flights-grounded-delayed-due-to-airbus-a320-recall/106081408