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"let the cat out of the bag" said Declin.

"Don't say too much" said Turbo, AdMinian keeps an eagle eye on this thread.

"Did you set the timing the way I told you - just like the Evinrude setting" said Turbo.

"Yes, screwed the advance right up," said Declin, "Even with two of us on board, it lifted off in a hundred feet or so, and climbed like a rat up a drainpipe"

"Did you make sure to lean the mixture? asked Turbo

"Yes, two full turns of each jet - that seemed to give it even more boost" said Declin

Turbo thought to himself that it wouldn't be for long.

"Now don't say a thing Declin, just let AdMinian trake it out and we'll film the take off............"

Typical RPT boasting about every flight...........

urtle.

"Deeecerrrrrr" called Ratto, his nose twitching.

"DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCCCCCCCRRRRR" he shouted....

Jabby, you've probably realised it, but there's an interesting list of similar mishaps being discussed on another thread. if you know the guy it might make him feel better to know others have had the same problem.

Thanks Darksarcasm for starting this - one for you to put in the flying memory box for your solo days too.

And a few nautical miles into the journey it was Slartif

Peter, that was my experience but I had to push the stick forward a little to reduce the tendency to climb. The angle of attack in my case, even with full flaps hanging down was still well below the angles being quoted above. So it's important to try to visualise what the attitude of the aircraft was and how much it was mushing and therefore increasing angle of attack.

I did a lot of practice to get the nose exactly right in landing attitude to get out of the habit of my Cherokee ground effect flair, and I found the better I got the landing approach the less the masking of the elevators.

photo of an Evinrude Outboard held aloft.....

" Oh my giddy gazelle " cried he, "just let me out of here before................"

.......Ho Ho starts quoting more Bush Shakespeare".

"No", said the Rat, who after a short early morning burst on NES was fully occupied eating the remains of the guests' breakfasts.

"No", said McLochs looking up from his pneumatic pop riveter

"No" said Turbo, cold chisel in hand

"No" said Planey, after a short wait

"No" said Biggestworth, who was working three jobs because of a

failed oil hose, after Channel 9 refused to pay him the $2 mil

"N .." said Bartfast adjusting an aluminium light deflector

A spokesperson for BigMurray said his client was inclined not to agree.

Deccadence should have been caught like a Rat in a trap (sorry Ratto, sphincter OK?)

But the three holer club knew never to underestimate a switch flicker.........

What has a pedant got to do with it. I don't care who likes feet...each to their own I say!!

Decca had unravelled and run amok, probably because he hadn't had his first coffee, and now in the full light of morning he could see the hideous sight of Nanna lying there snoring, mouth wide open, two teeth on the left side, hair like old bootlaces.

He was definitely a nightman.

The pedant decided to make another attempt.....

There's no doubt it was with me, and I've forgotten what Qwerty told me..

without a nightcartonly a ............

..Flightf...

"A WORD OF CAUTION ABOUT A PARTICULAR AIRCRAFT". No, just HUMAN FACTOR.

"Pedant Schmeddant" responded Nanna "As far as my Deccastud is concerned it is DeccaPendulum, not DeccaPedant ..... and from 1st hand experience I can assure you all that he is a ...........

sleep, so we can all talk about him".

But Nanna was soon to be shattered; Deccadent was sharing his favours around, and had started wearing a smoking jacket and cravatt and appearing on TV cooking shows.

He had become a nightman....

"And speaking of pedants" added El Crappo

"What happened to El Ratto with the golden tootho?" asked Turbo ad he lifted his head, his hair matted with two stroke oil.

"Should we warn Ho Ho's neighbour that there's a pedant in their midst?"

"What do we do next?" wondered Firefly.

"He's not human", said Turbo, "he's a Hydra, so you'll have to be very careful walking through the grass"

"What's a Hydra?" asked Firefly who hadn't studied very hard in school, and hadn't been able to listen to Jason and the Argonauts on the radio because it had been cut for bad language.

"A snake" said Turbo, but an unusual one. Hercules fought one in ancient times and only killed it finally when he fed all the heads Ratsak.

"It keeps growing heads and only one is mortal, so while, for example, it may have shed one head, the others can still bite you and you can even expect a new head to grow."

"That explains why I was hearing different stories from different locations then" said Firefly.

"Exactly" replied Turbo

"How can we eradicate it?" asked Firefly.

"Well, Hercules got one with Ratsak, but the history books show that he died of poisoning shortly after, so I wouldn't get too close" advised Turbo.

"Yes, it really gave Bartfast a spray of poison, didn't it" said Firefly.

Just then ditDot flew past in the Drifter, much better educated in history judging by the way his trouser legs were tied with baler twine............

"I wouldn't know, Im a pedant", said Ho Ho, and everyone went for their dictionaries......

did I hear a Jabby Jockey say "or Piper Cherokee"??

Ozzie there is trim, but these incidents relate to HF situations where full flap was left on for take off.

The Jab has very good flaps, and full flap has a heap of drag.

Yes, Brent, perhaps you would be happier commenting on another thread.

I described an event which actually happened.

Thanks Jabby, maybe a word of caution to Jab guys.

I'd come in on full flap with an instructor who told me to go up by myself just as I exited the runway. In the conversation I forgot to bring the flaps up, and because I was just doing a bit more than a touch and go, made the mistake of not stopping to to my full preflight checks.

As a result, I was unaware I was taking off with full flap (J170).

The first I knew, the nose rotated normally and the aircraft lifted off a few feet then sat there wallowing with no increase in speed.

Fortunately I realised what I'd done and shoved the nose down, and had to hold it down quite firmly, knowing if I dumped the flaps it would probably sink on to the runway near the end fence. The speed built up and I made a shallow climb out - and resolved never to make the same mistake again.

or Piper Cherokee

I'll be happy to be in the poo for failing to fill out my log book correctly.

Whete are you going with this theme?

Skcolha had missed a vital clue to the indentity of the evil Schitso.

Schitso had lived in Raland since he was born at the age of three.

He is shown in a group photo of Raland High School, Form 10 here.

There was a note on the back of thew photo which read "Absent - The Rat with the Golden Tooth"

What happend was that Ratto wouldn't take off his Raybans and the headmaster kicked him off the shoot.

But, readers, we have more serious work afoot.

Schitso joined in all the fun at Raland High School, although his overbearing manner did get on everyone's nerves.

Firefly was a keen footballer, and one day the team travelled to Rogerstown, which was a major aluminium producer, for a match.

The match went well, and they celebrated down at the Boomerang Cafe, where Firefly noticed Schitso in one of the back booths talking earnestly with three hoods from the local town.

He overheard the word Raland and sidled closer, keeping out of Schitso's vision.

"They're a pack of girls", he heard Schitso say, they couldn't find their way out of a paper bag, and they SMELL"

He went on with some appalling stories about Ralanders and how they didn't even deserve to be in the Commonwealth.

This shocked Firefly, but the following week the team travelled to Carisbrook and there was Schitso in the bar, all restraints down giving a spray to anyone that came in.

Firefly made his mind up to give Schitso a good talking to because this was giving Raland a bad name, but when he went down to the Raland Cafe, there was Schizo praising a group of Ralanders and telling them how lucky they were to be living in Raland.

Ratto didn't know what to make of this and went on replacing the minties that thugs had taken fron his Cherubs.

"What do we do next?" wondered Firefly.

Walter, what's driving the hot air at the moment is open and persistent rule flouting rather than innocent and intermittent mistakes, which are made both in in RA and GA.

That behaviour sometimes impresses newer pilots with disastrous results, and if you add to that inaction by the Association which is supposed to be managing the situation, inevitably the Regulator notices and takes its own action.