turboplanner

Not unusual behaviour for the PPC fraternity. One decided to land at our RC strip, took the president of the club for a "ride", caught a wheel in the fence on takeoff from the very narrow strip.

 

 

I didn't see the bounce?

 

 

Read The Thread

 

 

Still a bit lost how Fire services not accessing burning aircraft relates to not carrying extinguisher?

It didn't

Statistically, fuel fires, where the aircraft is catastrophically burning are very rare. I can't remember one in recreational flying in Australia in the last five years.

 

Nomex equipment was introduced into motor racing for fuel fires where around 100 litres of fuel may spill from a split tank in a crash and ignite.

 

The full fire set includes nomex socks, nomex long underpants, nomex singlet, nomex suit (1, 2 or 3 layers), nomex balaclava, fire resistant gloves.

 

Added to this, after fatalities where the driver would otherwise have survived but inhaled flames into the lungs is a flame proof breathing barrier.

 

Survival with this in a fuel fire is around 30 seconds, but I've seen one crash where, with 4 metre flames surrounding the driver he survived about 45 seconds before the fire crews managed to cut the flames.

 

For almost all circuit motor racing there's going to be powder and foam crews on the scene within that 30 seconds.

 

So the combination is based on survival until an onsite crew can suppress the fire.

 

There are many other applications these days where nomex gear is worn, and provides excellent protection in less major fires - for example where a person can walk away from the fire (or an aircraft can be positioned so the flame path is away from the pilot.

 

The body gets very hot wearing all those layers, and in many cases races are over in 15 minutes or so.

 

With full gear, a two hour flight may pose a bigger risk of loss of control from heat stroke, than the very small risk of a fire.

 

So you have to think the situation through.

 

Synthetic clothes should be avoided at all costs, because the plastic simply melts into the skin, even at mild temperatures and you could be up for skin grafts - woolen socks, and cotton underclothes are a simple way to avoid this.

 

Nomex underwear and cotton clothes treated with borax were common in racing in the 1980s

 

You don't have top go round looking like top gun these days. Nomex is available in many styles with a recreational appearance.

 

 

"........so impressed, that I can now tell you my true identity - I'm none other than Madge", and .........................................................

 

RATSO: Fair dinkum, Tink, what were you thinking ......... and your best mate Ratface just wishes to point out that this type of error gives the Wait-Shift guys more ammo with which to hammer you over W&B.

Turbo respectfully advises Ratso, who clearly wasn't on the mailing list, that while Turbo was working on a simplified Pendulum equation to help his two axis friends, The Voice issued an edict which removed the baggage area from the aircraft and left them with carry-on only! It appears they have missed the subtelty of the action.

 

 

....we know where to find him!"

 

"Pig's Arxx!" said Turbo who was staying with John Elliott at his shack on the Murray where he is growing Quandogs for the Chinese market, and had asked Turbo to provide some marketing advice. [Readers, don't tell Midgeville where he's staying - MOD]

 

"Once I've finished that I'm off the help Loxie produce 'The Sound of Music' at the BoB" where we'll have the lovely Kaz singing "the heels are alive, with the sound of music" as she runs across the op of The Rock, which we will be painting write to imitate snow" he said. "Flying Vicious will be Liesel, Een will be Captain Von Trapp and andy will be the littlest boy. Ratso gets a set of pigtails and plays one of the girls which should be easy for him, since................

 

 

I think Jim's machine is a FEW Mustang, not a Titan.

Yes, sorry, it's an FEW.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sign of the times: http://www.theage.com.au/business/retail/abc-to-close-its-shops-across-australia-20150722-giiiqd.html

 

 

There's a thread which explains what happened.

 

 

Magnificent with a Chev 350 though.

 

 

But once again Turbo had out thought the little Rat, having been at school with "flogger" lox.

 

Loxie opened the meeting, then closed it before anyone could move a motion, so......

 

 

Well if the passenger in this crash was not a pilot it might take care of itself, given that an engine failure on take off is a death sentence, along with most parts of the circuit.

 

 

STOP PRESS

 

BIG MIDGE IN TROUBLE - Rat flees with funds of pensioners, old ladies and little children

 

Residents of Midge Points were shocked today to hear that one of the board members had run off with the funds required to seed finance for the Big Midge, and appears to have persuaded Arabs to build it in Coughs.

 

Astute financier, Turbo, said "it was a sixth sense; I pulled my money out, and have negotiated a new package with Mr Rat, at a much more favourable price"

 

A spokesperson for Mr Rat said: "The move has three significant points:

 

 

 

1. There are no midges in Coughs to bite the living daylights out of us.

 

2. It will be built in a quarter of the time in NSW

 

3. We won't have to put up with the whining of The f'n'crew"

 

 

 

When the spokesperson was asked about the pensioners' money, she replied "f..............................................."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Investigator Ratt had fallen on hard times after the conviction. Although he only received a suspended Sentence, all of Waaga Wagga soon knew what exactly he had been investigating, and it wasn't crimes, but.......

 

 

And this, NES readers is why Simple Rat is detailing cars for the Wagga Wagga Skoda Dealer.

 

He didn't look at the Scale on the drawing. If he had, he would have known that the resort has enough space inside the eye to build a water ski lake, which is what Turbo is about to do. He is currently looking for reliable boat motors, and then................

 

 

Some more information alleging she stalled on approach.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/pilot-dead-after-light-plane-crash-passenger-critically-injured-20150719-gifrzn

 

 

I even contacted the then opps manager with my concerns about instructions and was told to just learn in an Aerochute and then go fly my own machine. I thought that was very unsafe advice at the time and still think so. Go and learn in a machine that has no ground steering, hand operated chute controls, foot throttle and a square chute then go home and jump in a machine that has a steerable nose wheel, foot operated chute controls, hand throttle and an elliptical chute. Everything back to front for the first flight in a very different machine with very different maners and having only just completed 20 hours of training, good advice hey.

I'd agree with you there for sure; however even on this forum you have been represented by people who think PPCs are so simple that you can't be killed in one, and the training should be much shorter and simpler than say for a Gazelle, even though both are using CASA air which requires training in Radio, Met, Performance and Operations and Navigation.

 

At least you're switched on to the dangers of elliptical/narrow profile chutes which can stall, sometimes more due to the conditions than your input. That needs a lot more discussion and specialised training in itself.

 

PPC's are a very fast growing part of fun flying throughout many parts of the world, but not here in Australia, why?

Same reasons that Rag and tube are struggling, along with a lot of entry level sports which require some serious study and a long period to build skill levels.

 

I believe our board needs to spend a bit more time listening to there membership and coming up with ways to further their growth.

They have to administer, you have to market, and put your own money into your own class.

 

As stated previously, more than half the PPC's in Australia are not on the books, why?

As I recall it's been suggested a couple of times that what amounts to several hundred of these people are flying unregistered.

I'm sure CASA didn't miss those comments; in the past they've reacted to single posts on single transgressions, so the whole PPC movement could be in for some scrutiny.

 

People are basically lazy - hundreds take part in street racing in cars which would do well in formal racing, but they just can't be bothered waiting until and even is on, or having their cars checked.

 

Aerochute, have identified the problem, and set up a holistic system to market their product.

 

Nothing to stop the rest of you doing the same, but you will have to club in to finance a network of instructors.

 

I know there are big distances involved for some people, but its the same for Aerobatics, Low Level, etc.

 

 

........put 143 kg of lead in the tail; that should balance it up nicely......................

 

 

......a decent dance. The mozzie coil began to spin and attached itself to bull's plane. Now, NES readers, if bull had been flying a Jab, the inertia would have been enough to overcome the power of a mosquito coil, but bull had chosen, most vehemently, to fly one of those little rag and stick machines with their tiny little two strokes, and the plane began to spiral at the mosquito coil burned. Round and round it went, almost jerking bull's head off his shoulders, all the way down to the bowells of the monster, where with a convulsion of its body, it expelled bull and his contraption out into space.

 

This, NES readers, is a perfect example of the perils of not using enough aircraft, and..............................

 

 

Procedure at race tracks for a fuel fire is to go in first with CO2 to displace oxygen. The hot components will reflash if nothing else is done, so a second person moves in with foam. The CO2 man moves closer, then the foam man and so on until they get on top of the fire.

 

 

....send him at express speed into the Giant Midge Exhibition Centre, while bull was caught firmly in the proboscus of the massive insect, with a row of teeth heading towards him, and the insect saying "Call me a parasite will you..........."

 

 

Wow, three down, and 867 to go! (2013/14 annual report: 870 employees

 

I think you two might be dreamers......or do you have a special crystal ball?

 

 

It probably stems from my dislike and disrespect for the media here in Australia who are too lazy to report on or track down newsworthy events here and instead take the lazy option of inserting some obscure item into their bulletin which they suck off the web.I don't need to hear about a minor car crash in ******** Hollow, West Idaho.

What are you commenting on this one for then?