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.....Turbo who rolled up in his new 600 hp Electric Hummer.  "I didn't hear you coming" said Cappy, and when  Turbo explained, Cappy, ever the Brit said "I didn't know Humber made electric cars" in a tone which indicated half an hour of whining about why he hadn't been told. Turbo quickly asked him how the search was progressing, and when Cappy's tears of frustration started to flow, Turbo said "Hop in and I'll show you where they were buried"

Cappy had an uneasy feeling about Turbo's use of the word "were", bat as tey cam around the next hill...............

My sincere apologies Onetrack, the Latin is far more precise and avoid situation like someone striking a flock of Speckled Tits.

I'd have to say that's a very shaky start, but showing great promise!

So in the future there will be no “bird” strike reports from the journalist pedants. Instead they should report“Southern Cassowary” or Gouldian Finch or Pied Cormorant or whatever species they hit.

.......................and the dots went on for 32 pages. It appeared that Cappy had dozed off. Turbo responded "Without prejudice, I assume you are referring to my children using 1 dot per child in one more baseless claim for money.  I'm not aware of having that many children.

It appears on this occasion you took to my son, Professor Bullumbup Saigh in some sort of effort to see if he  had the Turbine birthmark. He assures me that he does and was registered as one of The Family at birth, so I've asked him to ........................

....Turbine Clan was worth money. He took a photo with the Polaroid 3 he always carried, then found a scanner in town and sent the photo to Turbo with this claim: ............................................

3 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

In defence of the dyslexic - I agree that when making a technical report, accuracy is paramount, however even more important is the transmission of the message (communication) which does not always require the best spelling (much to the distress of the pedants)

Well you're now crossing over into reasonable behaviour, where it's accepted that sometimes we have to let off a journalist that a crow attacked a 49 year old woman in Condobolin when she was waking out to collect her mail, when we all know it was an Australian Raven.

5 minutes ago, RFguy said:

I've weighed it all up (for you) . From my POV, Cherokee-six is (almost) sort of too big. larger PA28s maybe dont quite have the payload when you want to carry a lot of stuff as well..

 

If I was flying my whole family around, I'd buy a C182 for a few reasons.  Lower empty weight, Lower stall speeds, lower fuel burn, comfy cabin, and  I like strut based monoplanes from a structural POV, and room for a ballistic chute if you really wanted.   Otherwise I'd buy a low wing .... for me flying the family is a completely different ballgame ....

 

Cherokee 6 is good if you want a rugged aircraft for outback strips around Australia. The fixed UC stands up much better and the Maintenance cost is always significantly lower than retracts. Speed is lower, but flying VFR, speed is not usually your limit on the enbd of day destination. There's a lot less chance of this aircraft getting ahead of you. I know of one which went for sale for $25,000.00 with wing corrosion. The buyer got all corroded sections replaced for $16,000.00 and as far as I know is happily transporting the family to exotic destinations for the holidays.

With all these aircraft, like the Jabiru, if you want to do touring with luggage a rough rule of thumb is to dump the rear passengers, so a 172/182 would take 2 people, Cherokee 6 or 206 four people.

I did an analysis a few years ago and the Cessna 206 came out in front even though it's hourly cost was higher.

If you decide what type of flying you want to do, then spreadsheet the specifications, its surprising what comes up as economic flying.

1 hour ago, RFguy said:

KRviator  - do you need de icing  in a plane you want ?

He's talking about GA aircraft. GA opens up NIght VFR. 

There's a very scary story on one of the ATSB reports of a pilot flying into Canberra airport one night; an uneventful flight with just a few minutes to landing, I've forgotten the exact detail but at about six minutes out he starts to feel the airctraft stall, wrestles it back and calls an emergency, he drops altitude as fast as he can, but it gets out of control again, and he just manages to get it back - this is ice, not a flight into VMC - he has clear sight of the horizon at all times, and he just manages to get it down. While Facthunter has mentioned that de-icing can be misused where you finish up with them working but encased in ice and you go in anyway, this would be an option I would choose if I decided to go NVFR.

.........b y a million to one chance clean missed Nob but bisected a Burmese who had been listening intently; a Burmese dressed in the uniform of the New Myanmar Peoples Liberation Army. They all had a bigger problem now. As a jeep approached, Cappy said "Let me do the talking and began to explain what the Burmese today call "the time Moses returned to earth and struck down a soldier to protect his faithful" The part where two long lost brothers were embracing .........

Panel?

.........he had decided his brother was somehow responsible. Nippon Sugita was five years older than Nobushi, and by Japanese tradition always made the decision. At Tokyo University he had studied ricket science in the late 1930s, which was difficult because Japan didn't have any rockets, so the students had to study a Morris Minor engine donated by the British Government. Morris sent out an instructor, Captain Maruce Farquarson Cooke-Friedman, who as you would expect embellished and enhanced the features of the engine, but it was Kayobashi Mitsiubishi VII who taught them about radial aircraft engines, so Nip was about to Keecap Nob, when ...............

......phone. Of course he called Turbo who took the the Challenger to the Spratleys, prised the Chinese spy off Zero, gave her one   

last warning and yanked him onto the Challenger bound for Hellfire Pass Burma. On the way over he put the Challenger on Auto pilot, found a can of spray and wrote "Zelo Part" on Nob, who wasn't all that thrilled.

With the skill of his years in RA, Turbo managed to put the Challenger down in the paddock and dragged Nob over, by this time bellowing for Gin towards Cappy. 

The old Japanese recognised the voice, and grabbed his sword. No one had expected this, so ................

.......li..............

.......the Spitfire burial ground which a helpful Burmese had pointed out on his grandfather's map, which Cappy had bought for a dollar. He wanted to look professional so he'd armed himself with an ACME MK IV (3rd edition, but without the green) modified gold detector, but  really he needed someone to interpret the map. He headed south and met up with a Burmese goat butcher who took him to his grandfather's house to get the real map, which showed the planes buried up north beside the River Quai. When they got there a Burmese panel beather, said they were very close and for four dollars showed them the track to the paddock where they were buried. A Burmese farmer was mowing the paddock with his John Deere. When Cappy asked him where to start he pushed back his JD cap and said his grandfather had a map, so off to the grandfather's house they went where they had a meal of baked rat. Cappy by now was getting a little stressed but managed to swallow it down because the reward would be worth it. An old man came out. Cappy thought he recognised him; he was sure he'd seen him before. He had a distinct Japanese look about him, and said "My brother Nobushi frew to Orstralia, and I never saw him again" and tears filled his eyes. Most of us would have put our arms around him and told him the good news, but Cappy had no such principles. He said "If you find the planes for me I'll find Nob, even if I have to go to the end of the earth." Since Nob was drinking Cappy's gin at Chez Spratley right now, it was going to be a very good bargain indeed, but the old man ..............

27 minutes ago, onetrack said:

A lot of journalists information comes directly from the police reports and information, and a lot of police are pretty dumb as regards technical details of items involved in incidents.

But the part that gets me is when people are employed to sell items and provide a good technical description along with the job - when a very large percentage of those people today don't even know what they're looking at, and can't even spell properly, when it comes to written descriptions.

Auction houses, real estate agents, brokers, and even machinery and equipment salespeople, all fall into this description. We've got one real estate agent locally, who can't even spell street names correctly, let alone provide a coherent, well-written description of the property.

.........which is why those sales people rely on mobile phones so the lack of spelling doesn't show.

30 minutes ago, tillmanr said:

And so they should not try to name the brand of aircraft/truck/bus/mazda if they DONT know the facts.

Yes, good point; that would stop a lot of the angst.

1 hour ago, IBob said:

They make muscle-bound buses that like to drive past mirrors???

Good point; everyone knows what a body builder is don't they they build truck bodiesamd include semi trailer and bus manufacturers, all  part of the Second Manufacturing sector of the Transport Industry.

The purpose of my question was to show that no journalist ever covers enough breadth of news to have the detailed knowledge which sometimes take years to acquire. 

In the Australian bus industry's current Australian fleet there are approximately 30 different makes, some making school buses, some route buses, some charter buses and some coaches. The second manufacturers usually buy in bus or coach chassis to suit the application and power requirement will vary by hundreds of kilowatts. As Ross K pointed out, in some parts of the world where the volume is big enough a chassis company may set up a bus plant. 

Coach builders grind their teeth and make comments just like the ones in this thread belittling journalists who write that a "bus crashed 15 km south of Tamworth this morning", but the journalist, who is being briefed by the local police sergeant just sees what the general public sees, a bus.

Same goes for the bee industry, and a hundred other industries, so journalists, who these days usually complete a five year Uni course are never going to do another five years of cramming to know that a Mazda 323 Phase 3 with the bigger wheels was hit by a Kenworth W923 with six rod suspension pulling a PBS six axle trailer.

This is a quaint way of balancing the books; I wonder what the spend is from visitors to Diamantina Shire over that weekend?

Do they leave the roads ungraded too, on the basis of maintaining normal costs for normal events?

Well I'll make it simpler then:  Name six makes of buses in Australian fleets without Googling.

I'm looking for people without industry knowledge to answer this.

Well I was aiming this exercise for people who thought all buses were the same, but tell me and we'll get yours out of the way.

1 hour ago, RossK said:

 

You might want to check that.

Well Volvo have a 50% ownership with Grenda. but the company is a body builder.

“......arguments over who has control in the aircraft. The 50% gender balance just pushed the waiting line for left seat out to the age of 89. Whate we going to do now, sit someone on the throttles?” 
 

“ There‘S still a lot of letters to go, said Turbo helpfully, but his mind was on a little slip up a couple of posts back. Cappy always portrays himself as an English car aficionado, preferably a Bentley, but there have always been rumours that he owned  fully worked and supercharged Monaro, white paint, pink trim, whitewall tyres, with airbag suspension to make it look like a kangaroo dog mating T the lights. Perhaps he kept it in Tasmania. Perhaps.......

19 minutes ago, RossK said:

Off the top of my head

Volvo,

Scania

Mercedes

Bedford

Volgren

Man

 

What do I win 🙂

 

For getting just one? Volgren. The rest all make bus chassis.

Name six makes of buses without Googling.