Phil Perry

You may have heard on the news about a Southern California man who was put under 72-hour psychiatric observation when it was found he owned 100 guns and allegedly had 100,000 rounds of ammunition stored in his home. The house also featured a secret escape tunnel.

 

By Southern California standards, someone owning 100 guns and 100,000 rounds is considered "mentally unstable."

 

However ........

 

In Michigan, he'd be called "The last white guy still living in Detroit".

 

In Arizona, he'd be called "an avid gun collector."

 

In Arkansas, he'd be called "a novice gun collector."

 

In Utah, he'd be called "moderately well prepared," but they'd probably reserve judgment until they made sure that he had a corresponding quantity of stored food.

 

In Kansas, he'd be "A guy down the road you would want to have for a friend."

 

In Montana, he'd be called "The neighborhood 'Go-To' guy."

 

In Idaho, he'd be called "a likely gubernatorial candidate."

 

In Georgia, he'd be called "an eligible bachelor."

 

In North Carolina, Virginia, W.Va., Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky and South Carolina he would be called "a deer hunting buddy."

 

And in Texas: he'd just be Bubba "who's a little short on ammo."

 

In the UK,. . . . . .he'd never see the outside of a prison again. . . .

 

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Don't end up in the far one. Nev

I wonder how many that will confuse dot com Nev. . . . . nearly spit me shiraz on the keyboard again. . . .

 

 

No danger of that Phil. If there's one thing I've learned from my woodwork and car hobbies it's that you don't stop learning... ever.Thanks for the welcome gents. :)

You're right there mate,. . . . .you never stop learning,. . . .but when you get to my age, . . .you stop giving a crap. . . . . . . ie, . . . you seem to adopt the existentialist view,. . . . "It's interesting. . .but it won't make any difference. . ."

 

 

From the Foxbat Australia website (www.foxbat.com.au)If there isn’t already one in your aircraft, you may consider fitting a Ballistic Rescue System (BRS). This is simply a parachute for the whole aircraft. It is operated by pulling a red handle inside the cabin, which launches a small rocket, which pulls out a large parachute, which allows the entire aircraft and people in it to descend at a survivable rate. These BRS systems are not cheap – but what price peace of mind?

 

So obviously it's doable.

Thank you young Marty. . . . .as I said B4,. . . . .none fitted in the UK at this time. . . . .

 

 

Geez, mate that's easy peasy !. . .anyone can see that it's obviously a Rockwell Commander 114, . . .you can clearly see that the shadow of the tailplaney bit is less dense that the rest of the picture, which of course means that, since the shadow will be a mirror image, then it is further away from the map than the rest of the airframe, and since the 114 has a cruciform set horizontal stabilizer, this means it's halfway up the fin, and therefore slightly further away from the viewer in it's inverted image than the rest of the shadow ! ! ! now come on, none of this namby pamby stuff. . . give us a DIFFICULT ONE ! ! !

 

Phil

 

 

The foxbat we own is LSA and we wish to install a locally available system to make it easer for the checks it will need every 5 yrs. The glitch comes along in the requirement that we need a letter of approval of modification from the Foxbats maufacturer. Thats ok , however has anyone gone down that route , if so are you able to give me a few pointers.Cheers , Pete

Hi Pete,. . .the obvious question must be,. . .have you have a word with the importer ? ? ? He will surely be better plugged in to the manufacturers of the aeroplane for a technical question like that. . . He seems to be a very helpful and enthusiastic bloke. . . . ( Don't lose my address at Christmas Mr. Importer. . .! ) Please forgive me if you have already been along that road. . . . . as if you have, you'll need to speak Russian / Ukranian on the phone . . . Well,. . .the two engineers who came to our airfield to help with the assembly of Foxbat 001 in the UK, had absolutley NO English at all,. . .but it was, OK, after four weeks in this country, we taught them every naughty word in the dictionary. . . .

 

If there is a locally approved supplier of BRS systems in Australia,. then the importer will know about it. None of our ( UK ) foxbats to my knowledge have BRS fitted, and this would be, acccording to our overlords the LAA, a very major MOD. As it would take the aircraft over the maximum 450 Kgs MAUW for a Microlight / LSA under section 'S' regulations in the UK. Austrailian MAUW / MTOW rules may be different. . . . .

 

Phil

 

 

Welcome to the forum Gary. . . .

 

The rules are. . . .you've got to keep us posted about your thoughts on training. . . . . . !

 

Best of winds, and no turbulence Sir.

 

Phil

 

 

Welcome George, Capital aeroplane old boy, Jolly good show . . .! you can't go wrong with one of those old chap. . . . trouble is,. . .they're so easy to fly,. . .might make you think you're a real PILOT ( HAHAHAHAHAAA !)

 

Keep up the posts and let us know how you're getting on with it mate .

 

Phil

 

 

One code, QRM, could have been helpful in the UK pedophile cases. "Are you being interfered with?"

Quite So PM, . . . but we'd better leave these amusing Q codes for another thread, could probably fill one !

 

Phil

 

 

.... Waiting for punchline to joke ......

Remember your 'Q' codes Bex ? ? ? ( Don't know if they have those in Cathay. . .) well, these, as I'm sure that you, as a suave, sophisticated man about town will already know,. . .were invented in the days of Morse code, to quickly pass a message. Y'know,. . .QNH, QFE, and all that. . . .

 

I remember one, I think it might have been QGT . . . ( could be wrong there ) which was meant to tell the operator on the ground " I am sorry I cannot comply with your request as I am towing a glider. . ."

 

If it was being tugged over a tall hill, I dunno the code for that. . . .

 

 

Well, that was certainly the case for me. Also, when I translated across from HGFA, they were going through the political horrors similar to what RA-Aus has just been through. When I moved to RAA, it was partly to get away from the politics, but then it was like Deja Vu.But I agree with the idea that people moving from a trike, are probably more likely to go 3 axis, witness myself and Alf.

Funny you should say that Scott,. . . . I know three blokes who have just gone the other way ! ! ! Yes,. . .to the dark side they have gone ! ! ! And bought trikes.

 

I took up Flexwing / Weightshift trike flying in 1985, after seeing a couple of them fly low over my house, just after I'd returned to the UK. My Brother went out and bought one, ( ! ) non pilot, . . .and I thought I might as well join him so I bought a half share. ( 503, 2 stroke Rotax powered ) he went though all of the training, but at the time, MY PPL covered them anyway, but I had an hour with the local instructor and the silly bar$tard sent me solo. WELL. . .I'd never crapped myself in a flying machine before ( or since ! ) but it really wasn't enough. We should really have concentrated A LOT MORE on the STEERING WITH YOUR FEET on the runway bit,. . .which is of course, opposite to a standard stick and rudder appliance. Damned thing took me four attempts to get it back on the ground on my first solo ! ! ! !

 

However, as other pilots will no doubt attest, after a while, you don't even think about it, . . .rather like getting out of your car and onto your Honda fireblade . . .it's just different, but the brain seems to cope with it.

 

More importantly Scott,. . .if someone wanted to move from trikes, apart from paramoteur,. . .where else would they go I wonder. . . .( just musing )

 

Happy Days ( sorry Pot ) And I fervently hope that the bloke pulls through OK.

 

 

So how do you get upside down in a Trike ??........

I could SHOW YOU Ross,. . . but, trust me, you WOULDN'T like it.

 

Two immediate possibilities, without trying to solve the accident with no info, . . .but just to answer your direct question.

 

1) Overcooked Steep turn / wingover which went wrong, ie, airspeed lost. . . .Ususal cause ? Over exuberant flying, coupled with insufficient experience OR. . .unexpected wind gust.

 

2) Sharp stall from level flight, then pulling back on the bar too hard and fast, = Tuck ( Bunt ). . . .Usual cause ? . . . normally, Inexperience / lack of understanding of how the aircraft flies / poor training..

 

3) A failure of some part of the structure, resulting in total loss of control. . . . Usual cause ? ? ? ? ? Don't know what the appliance was.

 

These scenarios will probably result in a negative load being placed on the wing, for which it is not designed.

 

Please note ** this is purely to answer YOUR question, and doesn't seem to have much relevance in this particular case, since spiral diving in trikes, in some types will result in a stable spiral at a reasonable speed, whereas the trike I own, will accellerate into a corkscrew, then pass thru VNE very rapidly causing the wings to fold back like a paper dart..

 

Phil

 

 

Welcome Thimo,. . . . . .I used to fly from Both of those places when I lived in Vermont and Boronia, . . . but I've been in England now for a very long time and the people will have changed ! ! !

 

There's bound to be some "Fleigenmeisters" on this forum who know Lilydale and Coldstream. Hope you do well with your flight training, keep us posted with your progress !

 

Phil

 

 

 

Tribute has been paid to a Dundee GP and her engineer husband who died in a plane crash in Argyll.

 

Dr Margaret Ann Rous, who was 37, and her 28-year-old husband David Rous were killed when a light aircraft struck the ground in Glen Etive.

 

The couple from Newport-on-Tay had been flying their Piper Cherokee from Dundee to visit relatives on Tiree.

 

The emergency services had been alerted when contact was lost with the aircraft at about 13:50 on Saturday.

 

The weather in the area at the time contact was lost, was reported as low cloud, rain and mist around the area where the wreckage was finally located.

 

Police Scotland said the wreckage was discovered on the northern aspect of Glen Kinglass at 20:00, along with the remains of the two people on board.

 

Following the discovery of the wreckage, specialist officers remained at the scene in the Beinn nan Lus area of Glen Kinglass.

 

Inquiries are continuing into the cause of the accident.

 

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The media has not speculated on the cause of this one yet,. . . . local ( Hangarchat ) opinion here is CFIT, or disorientation . . . . very bad weather ( marginal VMC ) in the area at the time. . . . but since there is zero information about the pilot, and only a generic photo of a Piper Archer, that's not much in the way of grounds for guessing. Lovely couple though. . .what a bloody shame.

 

 

I think most of the girls have left, judging by the number active. Nev

If that IS the case Nev,. . .that would be very disappointing. I have to wonder if this perhaps could be partly due to some of the rather "Terse" and otherwise "heated" macho exchanges between posters that I've witnessed on a number of subjects occasionally ?

 

I really DO hope that my "Humour postings" are not too significant in this regard. . . .

 

Phil

 

 

I think two points taken. But I don't give a hoot....

Hmmm. . . OK, matey. . . but perhaps if I have a good giggle at something I receive from my host of ne'er do well associates in the MORNING. . . I can probably make a more lucid "forward/ no forward" filter decision without the Shiraz courage I sometimes get infected with on the occasional evenings. . . . . ? Phil.

 

 

We are pushing the boundaries a bit here for a family site guys remember there are also gals here as well. Personally I don't know where the boundary is unless I get complaints though

POINT TAKEN IAN. I will endeavour to filter the material a little more than I have done thus far Sir.

 

Phil

 

 

G`Day Phil, I also had an excellent mother in-law, sadly though, everyone reaches the end of the road, the road is just longer for some than others.From the report: Commander’s Flying Experience: in excess of 15,000 hours (of which approximately 40 hours were on type) Last 90 days - 1 hour Last 28 days - 1 hour.

 

 

The flying experience is given is in excess of 15,000 hrs, but the way I see it, those hrs are not all at the controls so the hrs at the controls would be far less, not saying that would contribute to the accident, just an observation.

 

 

 

The fact that the the passenger was offered a flight on the spur of the moment,reminded me of an accident that occurred in Cairns Queensland, a few years ago. A GA instructor from Innisfail, QLD, had been up to Cape York to fly back a load of Crayfish, if I remember correctly, the aircraft was Cessna. The flight was part of their usual business.

 

 

 

A guy who had been working up there wanted to get back to Cairns and on the spur of the moment, took the opportunity of the spare seat. They got back to Cairns just before last light but for some unknown reason the pilot decided not to land on his first approach,choosing to go around again, this put him over the ocean heading north on the downwind leg of the circuit, eye witness reports were that the aircraft just seemed to roll over and crash into the ocean. Pilot and passenger deceased.

 

 

To my knowledge, no reason for the accident has ever been given and I don`t recall the aircraft being salvaged, I may be wrong on that,though.

 

 

 

Frank.

 

Thanks Frank, and to all who have sent condolences. . . appreciated. On "Logged" flying hours, this has been a discussion subject for a long time wit regard to professional and Ex-Pro pilots where accidents are investigated, as well as the "recent experience" hours quoted. As you say, with RPT pilots, quite a lot of time is spent quietly monitoring systems, which is what is actually required in commercial / airline ops anyway, this being the nature of the job. It would probably be impossible to extrapolate how much "Hands on" time is embedded in hours logged.

 

Where a pilot has multi - thousands of logged hours though, this must surely say something about the attitude and general outlook of such a person, particularly with regard to carriage of that ingrained professionalism across into their recreational flight activities ? The reports always include, as mentioned above, the amount of recent experience the commander had logged, in total and on the investigated type. ( I assume you are referring to the Yak 52 report )

 

Even though that airframe was inspected in minute detail, by external specialist engineers in most cases, the only suggestion of a possible fault appeared to be with the propeller pitch control circuit, but unless the pilot was looking for a precautionary landing, it doesn't suggest a reason why the aircraft was flying as low as it was prior to APPARENT loss of control from a non - recoverable height. With no other info, it is probably impossible for AAIB to suggest a cause which was not pure speculation . . ie, was the pilot fatally distracted with a mechanical problem that he forgot to fly the aeroplane ? we'll probably never know. Darned sad anyway, especially for the "Spur of the moment" pax.

 

I seem to recall something about the accident you mentioned Frank, I wonder why the a/c was not recovered ? ? I remember one recently where an airframe was pulled out of the sea not long ago. . . .

 

We have just had another fatal, in the Scottish Highlands last evening ( Saturday 4th April ) where a light aircraft has gone down, other than 2 fatalities, no other info yet, difficult accident site / bad weather. Nothing sensible on the news feeds as yet.

 

Phil

 

 

Back and forth, back and forth. In and out , in and out . A

 

little to the right, a little to the left . She could feel the sweat on her

 

forehead, between her breasts and trickling down the small of her back . She

 

was getting very near to the end.

 

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He was in ecstasy, with a huge smile on his face as his wife

 

moved forward, then backward, forward then backward. Again, and again . Her

 

heart was pounding now . Her face was flushed . She moaned, softly at first,

 

then began to groan louder.

 

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Finally, totally exhausted, she let out a piercing scream. "OK, OK,

 

you smug bar$tard, . . . I can't parallel park. . . . You do it!"

 

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Brief comment on UK A.A.I.B. reports, for those of you who may not be aware, the bureau is a completely separate entity to our CAA, but IS wholly funded by the Goverment.

 

I am still impressed at the intensely detailed quality of these investigations, mainly where fatality is involved, and the depth of the engineering investigations therein, irrespective of what type of flying machine or regime under which it falls.

 

I think some of you have already metnioned that this type of reporting is not normally available to pilots generally, which is a shame. . . I wonder what happened to the Aviation Safety Digest, which I used to read in Australia, those incidents appeared to be very well reported, with detailed photographs / area depiction too, . . .do they not publish these any longer, or are they restricted to purely G.A. accidents ?

 

Just wondering. Anyhow, I'll keep posting the links ( unless you ask me not to bother ! ! )

 

Phil

 

 

Phil we have something in common. I also had a great MIL before we lost her. She also thought that I walked on water. Which I guess is really weird as neither of us had a religious bone in our bodies.

Geoff,. . . our "Hazel" was very Unusual, in that she used to write down and keep any " Mother in Law " humour she heard on radio and TV and pass them on to me for use between caterwailing when I was performing with a pub band. . . she was fiercely independent and really resisted leaving her own place until a medical blunder messed up her knee replacements so she could no longer stand. The dementia came on really quickly when she was in the care home, very sad. Didn't know who we were after a year in that place, that was 2 yrs ago.

 

Anyway folks, apologies fro the thread drift ( again ! )

 

( does that PDF link work from your end ? sometimes they work from here, but not there. . . ah, . . . the vagaries of teknologgy )

 

 

Minor addendum to the thread, . . . the week prior to the accident flight, our pilot was given notice to quit his base by the owner, along with another five owners and their respective aircraft, following a blazing blue about someone siphoning 29 Gallons of avgas from an Auster parked therein. The hangar floor had been replaced with brand new tarmac 2 weeks prior to this, but not a mark was found on the hangar floor.

 

The landowner ( also a veteran pilot BTW ) thought this a bit odd, since I'm sure you all know what spilled avgas does to tarmac,. . . not a single mark was found. The hangar was securely locked with only 5 keys issued at the time, some of the other owners were away on vacation. Total mystery, unless someone had a 25 metre hose + pump, and a Humungous jerry can outside the hangar ! ! but the bitching about it continued, and the farmer decided to get shot of all six aircraft and their owners. ! ( There were 28 aircraft based on that site at the last count. . . )

 

This was why matey hurriedly revalidated his licence, and was looking around for a new place. The runway he missed was only 400 metres useable, and quite narrow, suffering at one end from ground softening during / after wet weather so it's possible that if he couldn't get the luscombe down on 650m with 50m over run at each end, x 50 m width, perhaps the landing attempt at the new place was unwise in this instance, requiring a slower approach speed. ( no flaps fitted to that aircraft )

 

Very curious story though. . .?

 

 

Phil quite a few people share the difficult position you find yourself in; they either don't realise it, or refuse to do anything about it.

You're quite probably right there OK,. . . and it's obviously a long ingrained feeling, but it still doesn't sit well. ( I've probably buggered my chances of getting a cheap deal on an old guitar from him now. . . .)

 

 

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Thanks for the mammaries.

Had to give that one a "Like" Bex . . . . there's no "GROAN ! " option button. . . . .( Ian. . . . . . ? )

 

 

"Interrogation = Inter - rug- asian" shows an interesting difference between you English as we Australians. To us, Asians come from the countries starting with Burma and going east, and north through China and Mongolia and on to Japan whose inhabitants have facial features one typically associates with a Chinese person. We consider all the peoples of the sub-continent to be Indians, only making the distinction between nationalities when it becomes necessary for clarification.OME

OK mate, . . .I think a brief explanation is warranted here. . . . All Immigrants from the Indian sub continent are labelled ASIAN in the UK. Point No. 2,. . . not long ago, someone on the local Ham Radio network ( 2 metre band - 144 - 148 Mhz FM ) started a long running jokey theme where any engolish word ending in "a t i o n" was supplanted into a denigrative joke aimed at Indian and Pakistani people. Not racist instrinsically, . . .just funny. ie,. . .Whaddyer call a Pakistani who flies a Lancaster ? ? ? . . .Abomination. . . . . . ? ? ? I'm sure you can extrapolate more with any word ending in ...ation. . . ( incidentally my mate Lalli, who is the manager of my local Balti house came up with the Lancaster one,. . .mind you,. . .he was born here in the black country,. . .which has , ( so I'm told ) the worst English accent in the country. . . calls himself a DarloPaki,. . . . ie, a man of Pakistani origin but who was born in Darlaston ( midlands - UK ) which is his handle on fizzogbook .

 

Incidentally,. . .If any of you worthies are on FIZZOGBOOK, I would be delighted to add you as friends,.. . . . . just look out for JIM PERRY ( that's me middle name. .fizzogbook lost me detalis years ago, when they started up, and wouldn't let me log back on with my real name,. . . ( which I have not told any of you LLOL . . . . so send me a friend request and I'll probably ignore it, or tell you to foxtrot oscar. . . .) . . .Actually, I have to admit, I only go onto fizzogbook if my Big daughter Rachel sends me a message and I get an email alert. . . . .