Marty_d

Didn't want to wake the captain, was that the one?

And yes, once the copilots realised they had lost control, surely it was time for pride to be swallowed and wake the captain?

Thanks heaps for that rgmwa. Loved the pictures. Envy the people working there!!

I can highly recommend "QF32" by Captain Richard De Crespigny, about the Qantas A380 that blew an engine over Indonesia just over 3 years ago.

After reading about the amount of sh*t he, the copilot, 2 check pilots AND a dead-heading second officer had to deal with bringing that plane down safely, my secret wish to have that pretty stewardess asking for any pilots on board has diminished markedly.

Don't want to spoil a good read, but they had to land that plane at between 165 - 168 knots in order to keep the aircraft flying and still have enough runway to stop (the explosion had disabled 50% of spoilers and ailerons, one of the two engines which has reverse thrust, and 36% of brakes). This is in an aircraft which was 42 tonnes over maximum landing weight, tail heavy, had lost 75% of hydraulic pumps, two generators, 50% of AC buses, the APU and a heap more.

Over the 2 hours from the explosion to landing they had 130 minor faults logged and 120 master caution alarms.

Added to which, when they did stop, they were sitting in a lake of fuel which was leaking from all the holes in the wing, and the brake temperature was over 1000 degrees celcius.

Quite happy to leave the big jobs to the professional professionals!!

You watch interesting documentaries Marty!

There was a movie about some Czech pilots in WWII, called "Dark Blue World", which I thought was quite good, unlike "Pearl Harbour" which is a good story in reality, but a crap movie.

You mean you don't take advantage of the offerings of the "Mile High Club"? - I'm a multiple awarded member now, Solo Division.

...methinks it's time to go back to talking about aeroplanes.

The only airliner where every male passenger smiles when the hostie yells "We're going down!!!"

...and as for that Boeing 747 Dreamlifter, I have no idea how they even landed it on my front lawn, let alone what to do with it...

You woos! You hear about tough guys in Russia getting ball bearings sewn under the skin of their old fellas.

Yep, seen it - my last flight to Australia was screening it, pointed out the plane crashing to the woman next to me

Thank you for the link Silvercity, I guess my next family visit will coincide with Hahnweide2014 airshow.

Bit of a bugger - I got all excited too as I'll be in Europe in September next year, until I read that bit.

"Great airplane, was a passenger in one of them (at a German Airshow) ages ago, best flight so far, had to sit down for 15 min afterwards.That's the one I flew in http://www.bredow-web.de/DO-3605.JPG

two years later and after slicing through a Robin 2160 camera plane while filming a commercial. "

 

Thanks for that info Denny. Love to get to that airshow one day. Maybe this is it?

 

http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=55583

By the way, am I the only one who thinks the vertical stab & rudder on the AN-2 is almost comically oversize?

Watched "Flight" (starring Denzel Washington) the other night on DVD.

While the movie is more about alcohol abuse than flying, there is a fairly gripping flying scene, where he uses a novel method of pulling an MD-80 with elevators jammed down out of a terminal dive.

Despite the serious and somewhat tragic plot line, I thought it was a good watch!

Why would it need control surfaces? If you were just substituting the dacron for ali it is still a weight shift wing.Other than ease of transport for the dacron wing cost of construction materials and time to build not to mention increased weight. No doubt someone somewhere has tried this in the past.

I will NOT be telling my wife that one.

It wouldn't be. But then again I've always wondered why they need a 100hp engine.

There you go then... this is why I love this site! Always learning.

I guess control surfaces would be needed then, which adds to weight & complexity. Still doable but maybe not enough reason to do it.

How do you suggest control would be effected on such a device ?

I'm not a trike enthusiast (despite having flown a hang glider in the distant past), but just curious.

Why hasn't someone built a trike wing out of aluminium?

Yes, you'd lose the ability to pack it away - but from what I've seen, many trikes seem to spend their non-flying time in a hangar anyway.

Weight - would it be much more? Spars and ribs made of 0.025" 6061-T6, skinned with 0.016"... how would that compare with rag and tube?

And being made from aluminium, no more need to worry about mice/moths/fading/brittleness/battens deforming / whatever else worries fabric.

Now tell me why it's a bad idea...

Reminds me of the one about Yanos the Greek...

Yanos is a tour guide showing a group of tourists around his village.

"You see this house? I design this house. But nobody call me 'Yanos the architect'."

A little while later the group is down at the harbour.

"You see this sailboat? I make this sailboat. But nobody call me 'Yanos the boat builder'."

Shortly after he's showing them the local municipal buildings.

"You see this buildings? I ran the council here for a time. But nobody call me 'Yanos the mayor'."

Yanos sighs sadly and shakes his head. "But you f*ck one goat...!"

Not sure if there's an official definition, but generally it's one that only your kids will laugh at.

The local nursing home started giving Viagra to the male residents every night. Stops them rolling out of bed.

With an"S" added it's not funny... Slaughter For cows and bulls etc. That joke reminds me of a Camel joke and a high ranking british officer. Nev

A cross-dressing one at that... isn't that Wonder Woman's outfit??