old man emu

Please point out the logic in this situation.

At Camden there was a flying school operating Jabirus. One was VH-XXX and the other 24-9876. It was possible that both these aircraft were doing circuit work at the same time,  each flown solo by a student. Camden is a controlled airport from 8:00 am to 4:00 pm, so a visitor in 24-&^%$  is not permitted to fly into Camden between those time.

Leaving out the fact that the flying school had a CASA exemption to operate the 24-9876, where are the safety issues involved in that? Bearing in mind that the student in VH-XXX might be flying on a Basic Class 2 medical and the 24-9876 is self-declaring, and both are making the same broadcasts, why can't 24-&^%$ fly in from The Oaks between 8:00 am to 4:00 pm?

My opinion is that by creating RAAus, CASA has caused more problems than it saved. A plane is a plane, is a plane, is a plane. As long as the design is sufficient for purpose, and the finished product is maintained to an acceptable standard why should VH-XXX and 24-9876 use the skies and the airports under different rules?

Usually, the reason for a high price for an item using a new idea is that its patent might still be in force. In Australia that is 20 years, which seems to be the international standard. During the life of the patent, the owner can price an item so that the costs of getting the item to a marketable stage and then setting up manufacturing can be recouped, plus a profit. Once the patent period has expired, then the idea is available for everyone to use. That's what happened with the oscillating multi-tool.

This type of oscillating tool was originally developed by the German manufacturer Fein in 1967 with a design intended to remove plaster casts easily without cutting the patient.  It was produced by C. & E. Fein GmbH along with a broad assortment of accessories.

When Fein's patent expired in October 2008 other tool makers started creating similar products

10 minutes ago, Thruster88 said:

until RPL and PPL cssa license holders get the same medical standard as RAAus certificate pilots.

But a Basic Class 2 should be sufficient for the majority of non-commercial pilots.

The following restrictions apply to a Basic Class 2 certificate:

• only private day operations under the visual flight rules (VFR) and below 10,000 feet
• a maximum of 5 passengers
• only piston engine aircraft
• maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of less than 8618 kg
• no use of operational ratings (such as instructor rating or instrument rating)
• no use of flight activity endorsements (for example, aerobatics and low level).

I can see that the prohibition on use of an instrument rating, non night-VMC  and low level flight could be argued as unnecessary. Also being restricted to piston engined aircraft is going to be a problem in the future if electric motors become feasible, or low power output turbine engines become  practical. 

7 hours ago, kgwilson said:

I use what is left in the sump to kill the weeds by the hangar door.

 

Tut! Tut! That's environmental rape. 

According to an Australian review of funnel, the filter is also designed to save the last 100ml or so of fuel in the bottom of the funnel. That'd be where you get the spill. Also a small problem is a small bit of fuel leaking between the funnel and the hose

This demo look kosher

2 minutes ago, red750 said:

she reported both engines stopped

That port prop looks like it was turning when it struck the ground. Typical prop strike bending.

OK. These filters range in price from $55 to $290. Is there any extra performance benefit in the ones dearer than the $55 one? With the funnel extension the lowest priced one is $75.

I might just buy one as personal property, but take it along on the day.

Copy of the CASA Instrument of Approval.

If your insurer questions whether CASA has approved this event, contact me and I will send you a copy of the Instrument of Approval.

What about current experience?

Sort of related to this topic.

For the Air Rally, I was going to make arrangements to help pilots get Mogas if they needed it. Someone suggested that if I do, I should have a Mister Funnel on hand. If I do help pilots get Mogas, it will be coming from a servo whose underground tanks are only about 6 months old. I get my car fuel from this place and haven't had any water or muck problems since the new tanks went in.

However, in the interests of safety, I'd like to know if contaminated fuel from decently run servos ever shows up contaminants that a Mister Funnel would filter out.

I like

"Exc for Emerg Actf with 30 Min PN"

Oi, Mate! I don't care  if your engine has seized and you've got to put down. 30 minutes prior notice is 30 minutes, not right bloody now. Go into a holding pattern for a while."

"Hid the gun in the woods"

To me it looks like the plane landed in a ploughed field whose boundary was a thin line of wind break trees.

If you are going to tell porkies, put some meat in the pie.

Six months' wait for a reply from CASA!!! I should be so lucky. My annual medical is likely to expire before CASA sends whatever it sends relating to my 2023 medical. If CASA had an office in the Amazon, the staff would be knocked over by racing sloths.

I wonder of the Class 2 medical they are referring to is the Basic Class 2. MY Basic Class 2 medical cost me $150, but at the same time I got my heavy vehicle Fitness to Drive medical.

Time for the conversion might be quite short if you normally fly  a 24- Jabiru , but can use a VH- Jabiru to do what is not required for n RAAus Pilot Certificate.

Don't think that'll buff out.

Too bad you can't see the starboard engine, cause the port one was working.

Note the direction the fence posts have been knocked down. The plane has come in from the left side of the picture, on its belly and the port wing has clipped a tree. That made it rotate about 180 degrees and the nose must have hit another tree.  Who's backing the idea that the starboard engine quit?

5 hours ago, walrus said:

run the engine bone dry with the fuel off

Back in my youth, our lawn mower did not have any physical method for stopping the engine other than the earthing tag over the spark plug. If you have been "bitten" by ignition current you soon look for another way. My parents taught me to turn off the fuel and let the engine run out of it. Nowadays there is no tap in the fuel line, so we use the throttle adjustment which somehow does the job. Is it that modern small motor carbies don't have fuel bowls?

44 minutes ago, mkennard said:

Can someone send the links for NSW please.

All the regulations seem to be aimed a dealing with large volumes of fuel.  Those for the small amounts we deal with (up to 200 litre drums) are hard to find. I got this from an article for caravaners 

Any containers you need must be loaded, secured, segregated, transported and unloaded safely. Containers must be fit for the purpose of transporting dangerous goods and not be altered or damaged. You can only carry a total of 250L of fuel in jerry cans and 50L of LPG or two 9kg gas cylinders.

This site outlines the Regs for each State https://www.rveethereyet.com/it-is-illegal-to-carry-fuel-on-the-back-of-my-van/ It seems that 250 litres is the standard. It would seem that one drum of fuel would be the limit in a hangar, but a bulk store would be OK if it was outside and protected from the Elements.

Mogas or Avgas storage.

These two liquids are potentially dangerous. Therefore each State sets its own rules on how much petrol can be stored in enclosed spaces, or outside. The rules also dictate the way in which storages (drums, tanks etc) are constructed. Then there is the question of decomposition if stored fuel and the effects of decomposition on engine performance.

It's a wide field for discussion, so go for it.

Not to be a nark, but this thread has gone way, way off the original topic. That's not to say that what is currently being discussed is not worthwhile of itself. So what if we return this thread to the original topic, but carry on the fuel storage topic elsewhere?

Talking of engine reliability, if you follow the development of very many piston-engined aircraft that either made the grade of fell by the wayside, very often you will find that in those that fell aside, the airframe was OK for purpose, but the complete package was let down by unreliable and sometimes dangerous engines. Even the venerated Rolls Royce Merlin went through a lot of development over the years. And who speaks of the Rolls Royce engines that were so bad that they hardly made it as boat anchors? Rolls Royce weren't Robinson Crusoe in the engine game.

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2 hours ago, Carbon Canary said:

Is the servo still operating in Toora ? - I thought it had closed up shop.

That's my biggest problem - no servo in Toora. However, I've organised it so that if you have your own container,  and you give us the money for the fuel (at that day's pump price), we will go to the servo in Gilgandra with the new tanks and fill the container for you. We might have a few 20 litre approved jerry cans to lend. We'll just ask for a few dollars to pay for the fuel used in our vehicle. That way we are simply acting as your servant and we don't bear liability for the quality of the fuel. A bit like getting UberEats to deliver your Macca's. When you are submitting your entry form, you will be asked if you require Mogas 98.

On another matter - we have arranged with the local show society to use their shower facilities. We will take you from the aerodrome and back and all you have to do is give a donation to the show society.

18 hours ago, Blueadventures said:

Would be nice to have some mister funnels available to assist in clean waterless fuel.

Mogas can be sourced from a servo that had its underground storage tanks replaced not long before Christmas 2022, and also the pumping system was replaced. The fuel from this source would probably be as clean as any fuel coming out of the suppliers' terminals in Sydney.

We are also negotiating for the supply of Avgas.

3 hours ago, Old Koreelah said:

Any mozzies?

Ya need water for them, mate! But just in case we'll give 'em the Flick.

2 hours ago, bull said:

sounds like your just a bit jealous mate

Jealous of what? Oh Yes! Jealous of John Taru's skill and experience.

An extra interest for those attending:

It will be the New Moon over the weekend of the 20th May. That means that the night sky will just about be at its darkest. Tooraweenah is located in a Dark Sky Park. This means that there is no light pollution from cities, so the night sky looks like this:

I am going to ask the people from the nearby Siding Springs observatory to prepare a presentation to be given to those staying over on Saturday night. Come and meet Dhinawan, the emu in the sky who tells a lot of information about securing a food source at the right time of year. For example, when the emu reaches its first full appearance in the sky (where the head down to the body can be seen above the horizon), it is said to be the mating season of the emu. As eggs are laid, this was the time of year for the Gomeroi people to gather the eggs as a food source.  Dhinawan's head is what Europeans call the dark nebula known as the Coal Sack, which resides in the Southern Cross.