Australian non-builder maintenance under CASA instrument 35/26

[Ian]

11 hours ago, BurnieM said:

 

If you do not have any formal aviation maintenance qualifications and you do not have a documented aircraft build then I do not see a problem in ensuring you can perform these and similar other maintenance tasks.

 

They have to ensure you can do some tasks.

Are you suggesting they should require you to do a crankshaft replacement (or similar) ?

 

No, however I do suggest that the course is targeted to address actual risks rather being pumped up with filler material which while being easy to teach don't actually address issues which have had a material impact on aircraft safety.
I'm simply saddened by what should have been a great outcome by SAAA absolutely missing it's target audience.

 

Do you agree with the $1200 fee to demonstrate that the builder is capable of maintaining their aircraft?

 

[Ian]

This can help pilots by understanding that pilot failures are the primary cause of accidents followed by engine related issues. Yes there's a sea of complexity in there but there's a huge signal in there.
 

[Blueadventures]

17 minutes ago, Ian said:

No, however I do suggest that the course is targeted to address actual risks rather being pumped up with filler material which while being easy to teach don't actually address issues which have had a material impact on aircraft safety.
I'm simply saddened by what should have been a great outcome by SAAA absolutely missing it's target audience.

 

Do you agree with the $1200 fee to demonstrate that the builder is capable of maintaining their aircraft?

 

The course is for providing maintenance competency training and assessment and the cost is reasonable in my opinion.  (Basic welding is $800 three days and Split System Air Conditioning is $1800 as examples).   I am not a member of SAAA but like seeing what they do and the chapter system they have to enhance mentoring of builders.  There should be no doubt that they are all about safety in aviation.  They don't provide Pilot training but educate about safe flying.  This new system of learning is great to see and would have needed enormous time, energy and commitment to get it over the line.  We should never forget that no course is ever perfect as the range of knowledge and materials is vast and evolving.  I have always held and given great respect to trainers as they have to style the delivery to all levels of experience, there are times when they learn something from the course participants and other times they must be frustrated by the inexperience of others that holds up the progress of the course.  One day I hope to attend the course.

[Ian]

This isn't commercial training.

It is training run by volunteers by an organization funded by the members that will consume the training. Think more along the lines of surf lifesaving training compared to commercial providers.

[BurnieM]

2 hours ago, Blueadventures said:

The course is for providing maintenance competency training and assessment and the cost is reasonable in my opinion.  (Basic welding is $800 three days and Split System Air Conditioning is $1800 as examples).   I am not a member of SAAA but like seeing what they do and the chapter system they have to enhance mentoring of builders.  There should be no doubt that they are all about safety in aviation.  They don't provide Pilot training but educate about safe flying.  This new system of learning is great to see and would have needed enormous time, energy and commitment to get it over the line.  We should never forget that no course is ever perfect as the range of knowledge and materials is vast and evolving.  I have always held and given great respect to trainers as they have to style the delivery to all levels of experience, there are times when they learn something from the course participants and other times they must be frustrated by the inexperience of others that holds up the progress of the course.  One day I hope to attend the course.

 

The $1200 fee mentioned (actually $1440 for most people) is for the MPC. This course is all about paperwork and there are no practical skills taught.

 

[Blueadventures]

3 hours ago, Ian said:

This isn't commercial training.

It is training run by volunteers by an organization funded by the members that will consume the training. Think more along the lines of surf lifesaving training compared to commercial providers.

Nowhere near the same, sorry to say in Surf they are trained as a requirement for the volunteer work hours on patrol etc they then provide to Surf.  After this SAAA training there is no obligation or requirement to do volunteer hours.  I'm only giving my opinion about the availability of the training and the cost.  I have spent enough on my personal development this year attending at Rotax and Jabiru for their courses and as I'm RAA there is no need for me to do the SAAA course; Its great it's there should I ever need to join SAAA.  If I swapped my rego for my own built airrcraft I would have to undergo flight training to convert my pilot certificate.  When RAA offer controlled Airspace endorsements I be right then to get my aircraft avionics tested and signed off and I'm happy with 600kgs.