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 A VASIS is REQUIRED for Jet Ops. Even so, the Long fuselage of that Plane has to be adjusted for. Short runway with a Major road at the Threshold it's Only a Matter of time before an Undershooting Plane comes to grief. Lucky to get away with it, and how would it be in Marginal weather? Nev

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That's pilot/crew incompetence at a pretty high level. They obviously weren't even looking at the instruments. I trust they get suspended and have to undergo further training. Imagine if the bakery truck had been a solid load of heavy equipment on a semi-trailer? It would've caused structural damage to the undercarriage and ended up in an aircraft crash. Aviation in the U.S. seems to get more hairy by the day.

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Was there a VASIS? That's MY Point  ALL pilot's vision is constantly checked as Part of their Licence Medical. THAT runway is Unsafe for that aircraft. Nev

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According to the airport facilities list, Newark airport has PAPI, which the Americans claim to be superior to the VASI system.

PAPI uses a four light system which reportedly gives more accurate landing path information to pilots. 

 

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The FAA information page relating to PAPI ....

 

"4 whites, you're high as a kite - 4 reds, you're dead". Well maybe not 100% true, but this crew should've been seeing 4 glaring red lights.

 

WWW.FAA.GOV

VGLS - Precision Approach Path Indicators (PAPI)

 

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Here's a couple more videos showing the approach into Newark. The "near-miss" with the semi-trailer is possibly not as bad as it appears. However, the landing aircraft are all coming in low over the turnpike - but not as low as that flight that hit the bakery semi-trailer. The news reports are stating the aircraft took out a light pole as well.

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DX_upm4DheT/

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DX9rfNEB1yW/

 

 

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I only used VASIS (generic) as they all use Pilots Eye height and do the same thing.  Eye height Vs Wheel position varies  significantly from plane to Plane. When you first go onto a plane like this, the Landing feels/appears to the Pilot like a low fly past in the small Plane you recently flew. The wheels are 70+ feet behind you as well as below you. They can also have refractive errors. with air density There could also have been some wind shear or heat from the  busy road which is far too close to the end  of a very short runway.  Undershoots are not that rare and that one is deadly. Nev

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The Aircraft depicted are different types of aircraft from Years ago. RPT jets are required to be stabilised by at least 400 feet above runway Level. It's a higher figure with Larger  and Longer planes, This Precludes a tight low turn onto  a short final and Supports my contention the particular Runway is NOT suitable for the B 767.  Nev

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