danny_galaga Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Both pilots deceased. I'm not sure exactly what the aircraft was doing, if it had just landed. Clearly still going quite fast. I can't get my head around what I'm seeing at the front of the plane. But I'm sure there'll be more detailed reporting soon 1 3
BurnieM Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Late at night. Multiple ground units responding to another incident. Controller not on the ball. 1 1
facthunter Posted March 24 Posted March 24 6 day working week and compulsory overtime and covering Approach and Ground Control Movements at the same time. Also NO vehicle should cross an active Runway without Visual confirmation of runway being CLEAR. . It's being blamed on Overwork due to cost cutting and understaffing by You Know who. Investigation underway. Nev 2 1
facthunter Posted March 24 Posted March 24 A landing aircraft doesn't go onto Surface Movements Control till IT is clear of the runway, so would have had no knowledge of the Fire trucks movements on the radio at all. Nev 1
facthunter Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Flight Attendant found alive after falling through the Floor. Hope She's OK. Nev 1 1
danny_galaga Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 Cctv of the impact. I'm amazed the drivers survived, and unsurprised the pilots died 1
facthunter Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Just do Momentum considerations and work out rate of change of speed at contact and deformation locally of each structure. The front of the Plane is completely wrecked.. Nev 1
facthunter Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Any Airport Fire truck I have seen or driven is Pretty Heavy. Nev. 1
BurnieM Posted March 24 Posted March 24 2 hours ago, facthunter said: Just do Momentum considerations and work out rate of change of speed at contact and deformation locally of each structure. The front of the Plane is completely wrecked.. Nev I think the technical term is 'f*cked'. 1
danny_galaga Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 More information. No transponder in the firetruck. Finally occurred to me why I wasn't comprehending the image of the damaged plane- there was enough destroyed at the front that it's tipped back from the reduced weight. Probably obvious to most, but it just wasn't computing in my head. https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/24/us/laguardia-plane-collision-air-canada-wwk 1
kgwilson Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Fire trucks are really heavy & the US has really big ones. They weigh between 15 tons & 60 tons fully loaded. They carry a lot of water, chemicals & foam. 1000 litres of water weighs a tonne. The smaller 4 x 4 Striker 1500 weighs 31 tons fully loaded & the largest 8x8 Striker 4500 weighs over 62 tons fully loaded. The pilots never stood a chance. 1
danny_galaga Posted March 25 Author Posted March 25 (edited) The truck. They were very lucky it hit in the centre, and not the cabin Edited March 25 by danny_galaga
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