Interview with rebuild rescue on the Sam ganow crash

[BrendAn]

 

 

The faa report has come out on Sam's crash 2 years ago.

He skipped his preflight and payed with his life.

He was in a rush to catch a commercial flight back after delivering the cougar. The sad part is he was already too late before he left.

 

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[onetrack]

You'd have to rate him pretty well up the list for a Darwin Award. There's no forgiveness for shortcuts in flying aeroplanes - especially when that shortcut is to leave out a check for water in the fuel.

[facthunter]

With flying you generally make your own luck with the decisions you Make. Nev

[BrendAn]

24 minutes ago, onetrack said:

You'd have to rate him pretty well up the list for a Darwin Award. There's no forgiveness for shortcuts in flying aeroplanes - especially when that shortcut is to leave out a check for water in the fuel.

It's the common theme of an experienced pilot cutting corners.

Makes me glad to be a learner.

[facthunter]

 A disciplined Experienced Pilot doesn't cut corners. Employers like people with experience. Cowboys go somewhere else. Nev

[BrendAn]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

 A disciplined Experienced Pilot doesn't cut corners. Employers like people with experience. Cowboys go somewhere else. Nev

Fair enough but this is a recreational  pilots forum 

I would take it for granted that commercial pilots would be a lot better disciplined.

[facthunter]

I didn't mention commercial pilots  People hire instructors/ CFI's. IF you Look at the top  Left, its . " The home of Aviation for ALL Pilots". Nev 

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[BrendAn]

18 minutes ago, facthunter said:

I didn't mention commercial pilots  People hire instructors/ CFI's. IF you Look at the top  Left, its . " The home of Aviation for ALL Pilots". Nev 

It was called recreational pilots forum before.  My mistake.

Cfis and instructors are commercial pilots if they get paid. Anyway I was just making the point that commercial pilots are held to Higher standards as they should be.

[facthunter]

I have plenty of time on many and varied basic U/L Planes instructing  etc and am very keen to continue to support it.. A plane is a Plane. Good airmanship is required across the Board  or you are  temporary..  If enough People do the wrong thing it won't help the Movement.. Nev

[Student Pilot]

48 minutes ago, facthunter said:

I have plenty of time on many and varied basic U/L Planes instructing  etc and am very keen to continue to support it.. A plane is a Plane. Good airmanship is required across the Board  or you are  temporary..  If enough People do the wrong thing it won't help the Movement.. Nev

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plane_(tool)
 

An aircraft is an aircraft Nev 🙂 and yes I agree, if it flies it should be treated as such. No matter the size or complexity. 

[BrendAn]

Wish I had said nothing. 

Now it's turned into a another shit fight 

 

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[facthunter]

Gotta go ALL your way has it? Where's the $#!t fight? I can't see one.  There are people here you should listen to.  Nev.

[BrendAn]

9 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Gotta go ALL your way has it? Where's the $#!t fight? I can't see one.  There are people here you should listen to.  Nev.

 

You start going on about who employers hire and fire. The topic had no mention of commercial pilots who are on a much higher level of training  and experience than the regular rec pilot.

Every topic I post which I do to keep the forum going ends up in an argument with you.  Then your mate above posts some Wikipedia bullshit about a hand plane For fucks sake.

 

 

 

[onetrack]

Take a chill pill, you blow up at the slightest thing, that you see as a personal attack. Most threads get diverted to different aims to the original post.

[BrendAn]

11 hours ago, onetrack said:

Take a chill pill, you blow up at the slightest thing, that you see as a personal attack. Most threads get diverted to different aims to the original post.

Take your own fkn chill pill

[T510]

16 hours ago, BrendAn said:

Wish I had said nothing. 

Now it's turned into a another shit fight 

 

Best thing I have done is use the ignore function. Means I no longer see the irrelevant ramblings and misinformation spread by a certain prolific shit poster.

 

It was either do that or stop using the forum

[BrendAn]

3 minutes ago, T510 said:

Best thing I have done is use the ignore function. Means I no longer see the irrelevant ramblings and misinformation spread by a certain prolific shit poster.

 

It was either do that or stop using the forum

Good idea.

[Arron25]

3 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

Good idea.

Gets around annoying contributor input, but destroys the thread of conversation..

[skippydiesel]

Not defending/taking sides here -

 

The Forum has a wealth of past, current & future aviation ( sometimes other) knowledge to impart.

 

You can learn stuff, even from a self proclaimed perfect pilot/engineer - best not to use the "ignore" function if it means a loss of access. Instead use the self discipline button - do not respond!😈

[BrendAn]

24 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Not defending/taking sides here -

 

The Forum has a wealth of past, current & future aviation ( sometimes other) knowledge to impart.

 

You can learn stuff, even from a self proclaimed perfect pilot/engineer - best not to use the "ignore" function if it means a loss of access. Instead use the self discipline button - do not respond!😈

I have chosen the ignore function because I always end up in an argument with that person no matter what the topic is. 34000 posts and not once started a thread himself 

It's a shame someone with so much to contribute consistently chooses to post rubbish instead of sharing his knowledge. Every Phil unicomb video that has been put up gets snide comments from him. 

I like Phil's videos, I find them entertaining and his explanations are very clear and easy to understand.

That's all I will say now let's get back on topic.

[facthunter]

I've never ever used the ignore function.  You are Not forced to read everything. If you don't agree with what is written Refute it with Facts rather than  attack the person.  I'll  answer tor anything I write.. Nev

[T510]

The ignore function works for me.

 

It saves trying to filter through the 99.9% chaff to find the occasional kernel of wheat.

 

It also saves the beratement when you dare to disagree

[facthunter]

I feel you don't like ME much. BrendAn?  You are not very subtle or accurate either. If you Mean ME use my Forum name  up Front.  Is there some rule that requires people Must start threads to be a Legitimate  participant.?.Nev

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[facthunter]

Moderator is it OK to Have to Put up with  PERSONAL attacks like these. I've been here since the Beginning and Can't recall anything to Compare it with EVER happening.. Nev

[pmccarthy]

Nev I have been here a long time too, though not as long as you. I think you have become more cranky or cantankerous over time and it can annoy people. I have learned not to express my views too often, mainly on the other forum, as it just annoyed people and brought personal attacks. I believe deeply in my own views on some things and wish I could change the thinking of others, but I have largely given up trying. Cheers, Peter.